Wild Bird Flu is rapidly spreading over the Crimea peninsula threatening neighboring countries. We saw how it started in the northern regions of the Crimea and we want international community bring Yuschenko to account for his criminal inaction.
We are addressing international community international health organizations international ecology organizations everybody!!!
Actually Bird Flu was detected in the northern parts of Crimea about 3 months ago. First dozens, then thousands chickens, turkeys, geese and ducks died. Still there were no relevant measures taken, no quarantine, no state of emergency, no vaccination and no official information. There were only scary rumors circulating. Authorities were reluctant to explain anything. At last laboratory tests were conducted to determine if it was the deadly H5N1 strain of the virus. We were not informed of the results and we don’t know them now. But more and more people were taken to local hospitals with “unidentified type of pneumonia”. Patients began to die and doctors were helpless. Those deaths…. they caused real panic and spontaneous meetings in the streets. Authorities used force and threats to stop it. Some people were even taken to the police stations. Now it’s going on in the southern parts of the Crimea. Hospitals there are overcrowded. Virus stricken poultry is slaughtered …. to be thrown on just into the sea! This threatens ecology of the Black sea, this threatens health of all peoples living on its shores in Turkey, Georgia, Rumania… They say authorities kept us ignorant to go this summit Ukraine-EU smoothly. We want be part of Europe but lie is not the right way to enter European community. Our authorities don’t tell us the truth. They assert the Bird Flu can’t do harm to people. But people keep dying. We are scary for our children! Maybe president Yuschenko is not interested in real situation here widely known. He is playing his political games. Summits and elections are of more importance to him than lives of ordinary people in his country!
We don’t trust Yuschenko and his people in power in the Crimea!
Save Crimea!!! Save the Black sea!!! Save yourselves!!!
Vladislav Skruba, chairman of the historical-patriotic movement “Kazachina”; Sergey Tolokonnikov, deputy director of the Region Museum in the city of Feodosia, candidate of historical sciences, member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences; Rashid Immametdinov, head of the Ecology Committee of the Crimean Tatars Society.
Political messages are verbotten.
If this post is valid then I am convinced what most of us fear about other countries hiding real threats to the rest of the world. In the US we tend to not want to believe these types of situations exist. But they do. The challenge is to decipher the incoming data so we can make logical conclusions. Rather difficult with this type of scenario.
Anonymous, do you have any data or sources you can post? Like the deaths from pneumonia, when did that happen? In which cities or which hospitals? Are the numbers (death and/or hospitalization) still rising?
Facts are needed, not political messages, given the gravity of the situation so described. Please.
so, what does WHO say ?
From what I have been able to figure out WHO only reports data they can confirm.
Re: “We are addressing international community international health organizations international ecology organizations everybody!!! “ If what you are saying is legitmate, have you submitted this information to any international organizations? If so, please name them, date you submitted them and to whom they were submitted.
Dangerous Unique H5N1 Mutation In Ukraine?
Recombinomics Commentary December 9, 2005
The mutation of the bird flu virus discovered in the Crimea, an autonomy on the Black Sea, is unlike any other that has been found in the world and is extremely dangerous for humans, Ukraine’s ICTV channel reported Friday.
The above comment is cause for concern. More details would be useful. Breaking news via media reports is notoriously unreliable, but the above comments appear to be quite specific. Other reports have indicated the sero-type is H5N1, so it is unlikely that the change is reassortment with an H or N human gene, which has not been described previously for H5N1. The virulence of the H5N1 in the birds also suggests that the H has retained the polybasic cleavage site characteristic of Asian versions of HPAI H5N1…..
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12090501/H5N1_Ukraine_Unique.html
Almost word for word with above is this report from Russian news, but does anyone know the reliablity of this site?
And 12/12/05, per “Presina Latina”,-link given below- WHO has sent reps to Kiev to investigate this ? new strain. N.B. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of this web site, as I am not familiar with it at all; anyone else know of this site?
New rumors page?. Check it out.
Anonymous: First please pick a name to post under using the Author field. If you don’t, we’ll confuse you with others. Second, please provide some supporting information to back your claims. Names of doctors that speak English and have witnessed what you describe. Also, please provide the name of the hospitals they work at. Please name all of the cities and villages where you think people have died from bird flu. Name as many victims as possible, assuming you can get permission from their relatives. You must understand that without verification, people will suspect this is a hoax or a way to discredit Yuschenko.
If your claims are true, I’m sure reporters will be interested in your story, but you have to provide information that can be checked.
Grace RN: Prensa Latina appears to be an official news source for Cuba. Probably analogous to Xinhua for China. Actually, its probably even more biased than Xinhua.
Here’s the front page
Another indicating that Experts from WHO Arrived in Ukraine.
I’ve seen other sources indicating this as well. For example, here.
Doesn’t mean that the post that started this thread is true of course.
right, and once it’s picked up…
On December 3 the journalist of the newspaper “Kafa” was in the village Nekrasovka, where chickens were dying. The inhabitants didn’t understand what had happened with domestic birds. Many people were busy with production of the chicken braised meat. They kept the canned meet of chickens, geese and turkey cocks in fridges and basements…..
….The inhabitants of the village told that last week some commission came from Kiev. They asked questions about domestic birds, tried to find out the reason, why they were dying. But nobody told that people mustn’t eat the meat of birds and eggs. And people ate.
I live with a Russian lady. The kafanews sounds real.
What remains to be seen is all this news of human fatality.
Has the bird flu reached Alaska yet?
not known that it has.
not known that it has.
Probably not. Certainly not being reported here if it has.
Virus spreads in Ukraine
More than 420 people are under surveillance following discovery of H5N1 outbreaks in poultry in the Ukraine, according to the Russian news outlet Itar-tass in a report yesterday.