Forum: Roses Preparation List for Mid-Level Self Sufficiency

This is an exhaustive list, much of what I had listed druing Y2k and with resources on the internet and with lists found here, I added to my first list and wanted to share with you in case you see something here that you need to put on your list!

Feel free to make recommendations for additions — I didn’t list ALL of the items that there are, but a good sampling of each category.

ROSE’S PREPARATION LIST FOR MID LEVEL SELF-SUFFICIENCY

This is a list of supplies to help you prepare for most types of natural or man-made disasters in such a way that you or your children if necessary, could sustain life and save limb, whether just with a BOB (bug-out bag) or securely in your own home.

It would take an 18-wheeler to hold ALL of these items — the list (with items in no particular order) is meant to be an overview of things that you can choose from — a few or a lot, that best suits your family. There is some deliberate redundancy in items in different catagories.

An item on the list may only serve to remind you of something that isn’t on the list, but that your particular family needs. This list is a combined effort of lots of people over time from my Y2K days to current www.fluwikie.com preppers whomever you are ----- I THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING YOUR LISTS WITH OTHERS.

I don’t have children but I do have cats, so I filled out the PETS section based on cats and dogs (I’m sure there are TONS of other items that you can add for other types of animals – fish, snakes, lizards, birds, turtles, mice, pet skunks, or anything else someone chooses to care for).

I left the BABY ITEMS and the SPECIAL NEEDS spaces empty since they are so subjective, based on your family’s needs.

To the right of each item you might want to log things like: brand, size, location in your home, quantity or other information you or your children would need.

This list is no guarantee that these items are appropriate for you, only you will know that-it’s a guide you can use to prepare at any level you want, either in your home or on the road.

FOOD STORAGE & SNACKS

ONE WEEK:

• 1 person = 21 meals (3 per day x 7 days per week)
• 2 people = 42 meals
• 4 people = 84 meals

ONE MONTH:

• 1 person = 21 meals
• 2 people = 168 meals
• 4 people = 336 meals

TWO MONTHS:

 *1 person  = 168 meals

• 2 people = 336 meals
• 4 people = 672 meals

THREE MONTHS:

• 1 person = 252 meals
• 2 people = 504 meals
• 4 people = 1008 meals

SIX MONTHS:

• 1 person = 504 meals
• 2 people = 1008 meals
• 4 people = 2016 meals

FOOD SUPPLIES TO HAVE ON HAND

• canned chicken breast
• canned roast beef
• canned stew
• canned cooked hams
• frozen steaks
• frozen hamburger patties
• meat tenderizer
• frozen hot dogs
• canned turkey breast
• canned tuna
• canned shrimp
• Spam
• bottled spaghetti
• beef jerky
• turkey jerky
• boxed macaroni and cheese
• canned ravioli
• soup
• ramen noodles
• canned corn
• canned green beans
• canned peas
• canned beets
• canned carrots
• canned potatoes
• canned baked beans
• canned refried beans
• canned carrots
• canned asparagus
• canned artichokes
• canned tomatoes
• canned onions
• raw potatoes
• instant potatoes
• instant rice
• canned gravy
• bottled gravy
• bottled pears
• bottled applesauce
• canned applesauce
• bottled apricots
• bottled peaches
• canned mixed fruit
• canned pineapple
• canned cherries
• canned boysenberries
• canned strawberries
• canned mandarin oranges
• canned blackberries
• canned cranberry sauce
• lemons
• apples
• bananas
• oranges
• tangerines
• peaches
• plums
• canned olives
• raisins / prunes
• dates
• fresh sweet onion & dried in can onions
• white bread
• wheat bread
• rye bread
• sourdough bread
• bread dough mixes
• doughnuts
• bagels
• cereal
• instant oatmeal
• frozen waffles
• jam
• honey
• peanut butter
• Nutella
• canned corned beef spread
• cheese slices
• ritz crackers
• saltine crackers
• triscuit crackers
• rye krisp crackers
• almonds
• walnuts
• pecans
• popcorn
• starburst candy
• hard candy
• sugarless gum
• pudding cups
• candy bars
• granola bars
• energy bars
• cookies
• chocolate syrup, strawberry syrup squeeze bottles (about that dry milk, again)
• marshmallows
• individual bags chips
• bottled lemon juice
• barbecue sauce
• olive oil
• Pam cooking spray
• ketchup
• mayonnaise
• mustard
• garlic
• onion powder
• dried mustard
• paprika
• salt
• pepper
• cayenne pepper
• chili powder
• bay leaves
• regular & Splenda sugar
• brown sugar
• cornstarch
• yeast
• sourdough starter
• baking powder
• baking soda
• eggs
• powdered eggs
• bacon
• margarine tubs or canned butter
• butter buds
• cheese, canned
• jar cheese
• Velveeta (watch carton date, freeze for storage if possible)
• milk: regular & instant
• Watkins vanilla flavoring (improves taste of instant milk)
• canned evaporated milk (improves taste of instant milk)
• sweetened condensed milk, canned
• dry dog food
• canned dog food
• dog bones
• dry cat food
• canned cat food
• cat treats
• multi-vitamins
• special vitamins-Omega-3 fish oil, other
• colloidal silver
• MREs (Military Meals Ready to Eat)
• long storage garden seeds

DRINKS (plan for more drinks than meals!)

• bottled or containerized water (1 gal./day/person for drinking, cooking & hygiene)
• individual water bottles with filter
• rain barrels w/ lids & wrench
• collapsible water jugs w/spigots
• water purification filter like Berkefeld (mission filter) or Katadyn, both w/ceramic filters
• MIOX water purifier (uses electricity to turn salt into chlorine)
• water purification tablets/drops
• water dispensers & storage*
• plastic tarps for rainwater
• styrofoam coolers
• personal water bottle filter
• orange juice
• mixed fruit juice
• apple cider vinegar
• apple juice
• instant hot chocolate
• instant dry milk
• Instant Breakfast
• Boost
• Enfamil
• tea bags
• instant tea
• Lipton tea flavoring, raspberry, other
• instant coffee & creamer
• instant Gaterade for rehydration
• Pedialite for rehydration
• *(In addition to a leak factor, plastic milk jugs cannot be adequately sanitized to make water potable. Milk leaves a casein coating that is difficult to detect and requires a special acid-type cleanser to remove. For storing water in smaller containers, use ‘used’ pop bottles. The bottles are very sturdy, will last filled for years and years without degrading, they can be stacked if laid on their sides and are much more easily cleaned out of their sugary contents. Sugar doesn’t cause water to go bad like milk deposits will.)

PET ITEMS

• pet first aid kit w/pet ear thermometer (different than a human ear one) or a rectal thermometer-mark that one as FOR PETS ONLY on the holder)
• pet first aid book
• pet fur wipes so they don’t transmit germs when being handled
• pet food/water carrier
• pet bedding
• pet shampoo
• dry food
• canned food
• canned food lid covers
• treats
• medical information
• vaccinations info
• prescription medicines
• baby foods
• litter, disposal bags, scoop
• carriers
• bedding
• collars / leashes
• toys
• nail clippers for pets
• flea/tick medicine
• flea comb
• brushes, comb, hair bands
• medical syringes
• eyedroppers
• pet sweaters, shoes, etc

TOILETRIES

• plain soap
• antibacterial gel
• waterless soap
• waterless shampoo
• regular shampoo
• shower caps
• conditioner
• baby wipes
• toothpaste
• toothbrush
• toothbrush sanitary travel case
• dental floss
• deodorant
• razor
• razor blades
• disposable razors
• shaving cream
• body lotion
• suntan lotion
• toilet paper
• camp lavatory, also for sick room
• baby wipes
• baby powder
• portable toilet & liners
• toilet paper / enzymes

CLOTHES / SHOES / COATS

• Hats for warmth & sun protection
• Gloves, for warmth & work
• hard sole shoes /hiking boots
• tennis shoes
• sandles
• bad weather boots for kids
• socks
• underwear top / bottom
• panty liners
• thermal underwear
• long-leg pants
• belts
• shorts
• light-weight Dickey brand type work shirts
• flannel work shirts
• t-shirts
• light-weight long-sleeved shirts
• raincoat / poncho / hat
• umbrella
• sweaters
• light weight jackets
• heavy coats
• scarves
• sleepwear, gowns, pj’s
• light weight bathrobes
• heavy terry bathrobes
• house slippers
• extra reading glasses
• extra sunglasses
• large purse
• small hideable wallet
• hidden money belt
• sewing kit w/safety pins
• military gas mask, spare filters, carrying cast
• Pet/Child NBC enclosure w/filter system & 2 filters
• NBC protective suit
• butyl gloves
• butyl overboots
• SilverShield glove liners

LINENS/ BEDDING / LAUNDRY

• sleeping bags (suggest Wiggy’s system from Cabela’s)
• sleeping pad & repair kit
• air mattress & manual inflation pump
• blankets
• sheets
• solar blankets
• pillows & pillow cases
• clotheslines
• clothespins
• tabletop washing machine
• clothes washing detergent

CLEANERS

• cornstarch powder
• baking soda
• disinfectant spray
• disinfectant liquid
• disposable towels
• scrubber sponges
• steel wool
• dish soap
• laundry soap
• bleach
• borax
• vinegar
• windex
• rubber gloves
• disposable gloves
• sponges
• toilet paper
• ashtrays
• metal buckets
• wash buckets
• powdered bleach
• powdered lime

STORAGE

• plastic storage buckets with lids
• storage boxes with lids
• ice chests
• spray bottles
• space bags (don’t require vacuum)
• plastic grocery bags stuffed into newspaper plastic wrap
• wash tubs
• dishpans
• dish rack
• dishrags
• large trash bags
• medium trash bags
• kitchen trash bags
• metal trash can (if you needed to burn paper or other items)
• zip sandwich bags
• zip large food bags
• zip small food bags
• rubber bands
• old newspaper (several uses)

DINING

• 16 oz cups (plastic)
• 8 oz cups (styrofoam)
• collapsible (shrinking) plastic cups
• paper bowls
• thin paper plates
• thick paper plates
• folding chairs
• camp table
• paper towels
• plastic forks
• plastic spoons
• plastic knives
• steak knives
• carving knives
• napkins
• plastic & paper tablecloths
• bed tray for meals in bed

LIGHTING

• batteries, lithium & rechargeable w/charger
• generator, permanent whole-house or portable w/cart
• flashlights w/spare bulbs, Faraday
• Coleman multi-fuel lanterns
• lantern mantles
• kerosene lamps
• oil lamp & extra wicks
• emergency long-burn candles
• candle holders
• matches, regular & waterproof, labeled
• lightbulbs
• solar lighting
• bendable light sticks
• (laminated instructions in big print on how to use so a child could read & understand…big lettering to see more easily with flashlight or candle)

FUELS / MAINTENANCE

• generator oil
• repair kit for generator
• gasoline & fuel stablilzer
• propane
• sterno
• Coleman fuel
• engine oil
• WD40
• kerosene
• charcoal
• lighter fluid
• firewood
• kindling wood
• (laminated instructions in big print on how to use so a child could read & understand…big lettering to see more easily with flashlight or candle)

COOKING ITEMS

• recipe book w/’how to cook’ recipes for storage foods
• LED kitchen clock w/timer
• scissors
• long matches
• automatic butane lighter & refill
• butane stove & fuel canisters
• pocket-sized, folding Coleman or Sterno or fire pellet stove
• barbecue grill
• fireplace grill
• campfire grill
• a large wide-mouth thermos (can be used to finish cooking rice once water boils)
• newspaper
• disposable aluminum pans
• pizza pan
• aluminum foil
• plastic wrap or plastic food covers
• bottle opener / corkscrew
• whisk
• wax paper
• long handled stirring spoons
• slotted spoons
• plastic utensils for sourdough, or extra baggies
• knives: butcher, paring, others
• sharpening stone
• fire starter pellets, flints
• cast iron pans & Dutch oven
• steel stock pots
• steel pots
• steel wool
• barbecue tools
• plastic roll-up cutting board
• potholders
• coffee filters (can be used to strain dirty water)
• welders gloves for fire cooking
• camp stove w/propane canisters
• camp oven
• camping toaster
• toaster oven
• microwave oven
• bread maker
• camp percolator coffee pot
• seed sprouter
• measuring cups & spoons
• mixing bowls
• hand operated can openers
• nut cracker
• fishing rods
• fishing line
• hooks / lures
• bobbers
• sinkers
• fishing net
• regular & heavy duty extension cords
• small RV slow cooker w/ power inverter for car or truck use
• (Laminated instructions in big print on how to use so a child could read & understand…big lettering to see more easily with flashlight or candle)

MEDICINES FOR CHILDREN & ADULTS / VITAMINS

• FIRST AID KIT
• first-aid book
• burn guide book
• Where There Is No Doctor book
• Advanced First Aid-Red Cross
• Where There Is No Dentist book
• Vira-gard hand antiseptic
• pill cutter
• advil
• motrin
• benadryl
• motion sickness tablets
• stay awake tabs
• laxatives & anti-diarrhea meds
• pepto bismol
• kaopectate
• cough syrup**
• expectorant like Mucinex
• ipecac syrup
• Tums
• valerian root
• Vick’s vapor fluid
• cold medicine
• Theraflu thin strips
• Zicam cold & flu swabs
• allergy medicine
• bite & sting kit
• baby powder
• hydrogen peroxide
• iodine
• alcohol / alcohol prep pads
• hydrocortisone
• specific poison ivy/oak kit
• neosporin
• antiseptic towelettes
• sunscreen
• lavender essential oil
• tea tree essential oil
• honey
• Vaseline / petroleum jelly
• diaper rash barrier cream or spray***
• disposable gloves
• hand lotion
• Lanicane spray
• Dr. Scholl’s Blister kit or Second Skin
• small band-aids
• medium band-aids
• large band-aids
• extra large band-aids
• butterfly wound closures
• QuickClot w/instructions
• feminine pads
• adhesive tape
• bandage scissors
• sterile stretch gauze
• gauze pads, large med small
• sterile trauma pad
• ace bandage
• Epson salts
• chemical ice pack
• chemical heat pack
• large & small burn dressings
• manual or digital blood pressure cuff & instructions
• stethiscope with instructions
• needles
• suture & syringe kit
• surgical needles
• surgical clamps, scissors
• strong thread
• q-tips
• tweezers
• bite stick
• tongue depressors
• unbreakable thermometer, digital or disposable ones (get ones that aren’t affected by extreme temperatures)
• eye wash & cup, eye patch
• earwax removal system
• emergency dental kit
• snake-bite kit, w/suction
• respiratory masks N95 or above
• plastic face shield or eye goggles
• cotton balls
• finger splint
• cervical collar
• arm sling
• lip balm / chapstick
• multiple vitamins (also listed in Foods)
• vitamin C
• chromium
• zinc
• foot powder
• extra reading glasses
• extra sunglasses
• copies of medical records
• copies of prescriptions
• extra medications: like antibiotics for secondary infections: tetracycline, erythromycin
• Potassium Iodide pills for dirty bomb protection
• M8 chemical detection paper
• Seal check swabs
• radiometer for blood-gas testing
• Emergency Response Guidebook (hazardous materials responses)
• contamination signs in English/Spanish
• Tamiflu or Relenza if prepping for Bird Flu-do NOT give black elderberry extract (increases Tumor Necrosis Factor Alpha [TNF] & more cytokines which the H5N1 flu is already increasing called a chtokine storm) and don’t give CHOCOLATE to a H5N1 patient (stimulates TNF)
• **Regarding cough syrup - you might want to consider stocking a cough syrup that has an “expectorant” but *not* a “cough suppressant”. In the case of pneumonia, an expectorant is supposed to help keep things loose in the chest so it can be coughed up. A cough suppressant would be counter-productive in case of bird flu type illness.
• ***Regarding diaper rash cream, needed for adults & children because irritation from diarrhea causes the acid in the stool to burn the skin
• keep your vaccinations & shots current: tetanus, hepatitis, typhoid, flu & pneumonia

SICK ROOM SUPPLIES

• hospital gowns for patient, several
• extra bed sheets to use instead of blankets
• pillows with water-resistant/allergy proof coverings
• plenty of extra pillowcases
• waterproof bed liners, child & adult size
• Chillow Pillow for cooling-it DOES work!
• foam bed wedge / back rest
• bed tray for meals in bed
• hand basin
• camp lavatory
• mild unscented soap
• sponges
• washclothes
• towels
• baby powder
• Lysol spray for surfaces
• Oust for air
• disinfectants - methylated spirits or standard 5% bleach diluted 1 to 5
• spray bottles (can mist patient with water & other uses)
• foot operated trash bin w/liner
• smaller plastic bags
• drinking water in pitcher & glass
• tissues
• thermometer
• N95 or higher face masks for patient
• fan and tape
• heater
• bed pan or portable toilet & dissolving chemicals
• urinal
• toilet paper, wipes, paper towels
• large diapers
• disposable waterproof bed pads x-lg
• plastic sheeting for bed tent to isolate patient bed from rest of room & zipper closure from Home Depot or Lowes
• notebook & pens
• large container with disinfectant for sheets
• reusable protective gear
• plastic sheeting for doorway w/zipper for doorway
• bucket with lid
• enema kit
• CPAP machine & parts
• bedside bell so someone ill can ring for help from you
• baby monitor for sick room

OUTSIDE THE SICK ROOM

• gowns / scrubs
• disposable gloves
• head covers
• aprons
• shoe covers
• masks
• hand sanitizer
• foot operated trash barrel for disposal
• plastic trash barrel with lid for disinfecting
• trash bags
• spray disinfectant & disinfecting wipes

TOOL BOX

• axe or at least a hatchet
• pick
• chain saw
• hand saw
• hammer
• shovels, small & large (might need to bury a pet)
• wrench
• screwdrivers
• wire cutters
• nails, large, small
• wall hooks
• pliers
• tire patches
• tire pump
• rope
• cord
• twine
• scissors
• stapler & staples
• duct tape
• clear package tape & dispenser
• permanent markers
• super glue
• epoxy / gorilla glue
• bungie cords
• 20 ft away wasp spray
• rubber syphon hose
• chain
• rip stop tape
• head lamp
• auto kit including fuses, roadside emergency reflective triangles, etc.
• (laminated instructions in big print on how to use so a child could read & understand…big lettering to see more easily with flashlight or candle)

RECREATION / FUN

• playing cards, dice, poker chips
• board games
• books
• Bibles
• paper, pen, pencil, pencil sharpener
• handwork/needlework
• math worksheets for kid
• word search books
• crossword books
• pick up sticks
• stuffed animals /dolls
• white glue
• glue sticks
• construction paper
• crayons
• white butcher paper roll
• These will require more carbs:
  • football or soccer ball
  • softball & bat & mitts
  • baseball & bat & mitts
• or you could:
• demold your grout
• organize your photo albums
• clean your closets
• reupholster your furniture

COMMUNICATIONS

• Emergency Response Guidebook (hazardous materials responses)
• Pre-paid phone cards
• portable radio
• walkie-talkies
• Baygen wind up radio
• wind-up alarm clock
• cellular phones
• crank cell phone charger
• list of emergency phone #s
• list of email addresses
• pens, pencils, paper, pencil sharpeners
• list of AM/FM stations tape to back of radio
• battery operated TV
• batteries
• laptop
• car inverter for laptop
• solar batteries if using that equipment
• maps
• post-it notes
• contamination signs
• whistles
• stationery, envelopes & stamps or pre-stamped postcards
• spare phonebook
• disposable camera
• ID info on each family member & pet
• current picture of family members & pets
• (laminated instructions in big print on how to use so a child could read & understand…big lettering to see more easily with flashlight or candle)

FINANCIAL / PROPERTY / FAMILY DOCUMENTS

• cash in small bills
• checkbook & spare checks
• credit cards & contact #s
• passports, immigration papers
• copy of birth, marriage, divorce records
• pre-paid WalMart or Home Depot or Lowes cards
• safe deposit box key
• gun registration/serial #
• gun permit card
• bank account numbers
• cd numbers & info
• copy of stocks / bonds info
• mortgage lender number
• charge card numbers
• list of 1st / 2nd mortgage holder contacts
• list of all insurance contacts
• list of bank contacts
• list of bill account #s, addresses & due dates
• insurance on house & contents list & valuables list
• insurance on cars
• insurance on health/eye/dental
• insurance for cancer / special
• insurance on life
• insurance on burial
• cemetery plot info
• your children’s guardianship placement papers / instructions regarding pets
• copy of wills
• copy of living wills
• copy of trusts
• voter registration cards
• A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION CAN BE STORED ON A USB COMPUTER CARD

BARTER ITEMS (pick non-bulky if space is an issue)

• Chocolate
• toilet paper
• books
• pet food
• alcohol
• cigarettes
• water
• shampoo
• soap
• toothpaste
• deodorant
• coffee
• tin foil
• matches
• candles
• chewing gum
• masks
• baby shampoo
• baby powder
• diapers
• feminine products
• disposable razors
• crayons
• pen/pencil/paper
• batteries
• stationery, envelopes & stamps
• playing cards
• powdered bleach
• pre-paid WalMart or Home Depot or Lowes gift cards
• pre-stamped postcards

SAFETY / SECURITY (as appropriate for you)

• Fire extinguishers or at least a box of baking soda in every room
• Guns: pistol w/laser sight, Glock 9mm, 38 Special revolver w/laser sight, rifle
• Knives: hunting type, filet
• Mace / pepper spray
• ammunition clips in ammo containers
• gun locks
• appropriate gun paperwork
• manual door alarms (the wedges) or wireless alarm system, battery powered, including 2 electric eye sensors
• battery operated smoke & carbon monoxide detectors
• extra car, house, safe deposit keys
• 2×4 wood planks (windows)
• plywood or at least plastic for windows
• binoculars
• contamination signs
• beware of dog signs
• (laminated instructions in big print on how to use so a child could read & understand…big lettering to see more easily with flashlight or candle)

TRANSPORTATION

• gas credit cards
• seat belt cutter
• spare tire
• tire changing tools
• bicycles & spare parts
• reflective gear
• safety helmet
• transport dollies for supplies
• trailer & hitch
• fuses
• wiper fluid
• wiper blades
• brake fluid
• oil, other
• jumper cables
• emergency kit
• flares
• candles
• matches
• water
• emergency blanket
• cigerette lighter inverter

BABY ITEMS

SPECIAL NEEDS

A very good list !! Some additions if i may

• Beans, black, navy, kidney
• Whole Wheat flour
• White flour
• Grain grinder for grinding grains for cereals and breads.
• corn meal
• Millet
• Sun flower seeds
• molasses
• shortening
• vanilla
• Yeast infection medication ( as mentioned on another thread )

i could go on but i think it would be rather redundant, thanks again for the work you put into this list.

WOWSER! This is an IMPRESSIVE list! Thanks for all your hard work!

What’s bottled spaghetti? Did you mean spaghetti sauce, or the actual noodles?

I’d suggest adding a roll of bailing wire to the tool kit. With bailing wire, duct tape, and glue you can fix almost anything. ^__^

Now, all we need is to create a structure that provides all of this for all people on Earth. A structure that works, based on real human nature. A structure that makes it easiest for individuals to contribute and benefit from. A structure that works using mostly local resources. A light structure that leaves ample room for everything else: if this structure works, then you can build a Microsoft-like empire if you like. (I will not participate in it because I’ll have my own food.)

Rose, Excellent list… Especially the foods section. Would you mind if we copy your list to the Members lists section of the Preparedness Guides, perhaps with additions that you agree with from this discussion?

  Also, you mentioned food storage cookbooks. Do you have any recommendations from books you’ve tried?

Fluwiki has a good selection of food storage recipes on another thread. But if anyone is interested, I’ll pull together some sites that I have found (and pilfered recipes from to experiment with) and post them as well.

Sasher, feel free to use however is best and certainly with additions suggested….I use Peggy Layton’s Cookin’ with Home Storage and her Emergency Food Storage & Survival Handbook…and she has specific ones on cooking with dried eggs, with dried milk, etc. Plus Kathy in FL has been posting here some great camping recipes that I’m still copying into Word to print & put in a notebook. Please make use of my list any way you can.

P.S. thanks to all for suggestions & additions…it helps us all.

I’m-workin’-on-it: Great checklist to point out what might have been overlooked to those of us who have been doing this awhile.

Excellent list, good work.

Also, I have a cookbook for Cakes In A Jar (canned cakes & they are easy & wonderful if done right—used by missionaries & are a good bread substitute.

I’m not sure about that bottled spaghetti…..but it was on an LDS list I think.

I think I left off measuring conversion charts for linier and food measurements, and dehtdrated / rehydrayion chart.

HillBilly, much info was confirmed from Owl’s & EOD’s list. Spare keys incl genrtator lock, etc, very important & this time around having instructions kids could read & follow are important.

Please add ‘small tongs to remove bagged foods from boiling water’ under barbeque tools in the Cooking Items section…..I forgot that too, thanks

wow!!!!!!!! Good job.

I can’t believe I did this but, if you publish this list over in preparedness, would you please add men’s handkerchiefs to the list under clothing? My husband would wring my neck if I didn’t have those in out kit! Thanks

I have just discovered whey protein powder. In Cosco it sells for $35-$38 (Canadian), for a huge container (90 servings). This is an excellent just-add-water, protein drink that is most healthy to use any time of the year. It is lactose-free, builds muscle when you exercise, and good for anyone, including seniors and children. When your meat supplies run out, you might be happy to have some quality whey protein supplement on hand. (Shelf life is 3 years). Just be sure to buy the kind that comes from cows that weren’t fed growth hormones (European or Canadian).

workin’ on it,

That might be the ultimate list.

IWOT ~

Very well thought out and comprehensive list! It was interesting looking at the proposed amount of meals per person/per day/per ‘X’ amount of time…that really put things in perspective. Perhaps a thought to keep in mind as a possible ‘Plan B’ if things got really bad and food stashes were critical is going to an eating pattern of 2 times/day instead of 3. A good, solid breakfast and a solid late lunch/early dinner would adequately sustain most people. Children might still need more frequent meals, but I know that after hurricanes around here I found myself getting up early in the morning (I’m a night person by nature lol), making huge breakfasts, then setting out to do what needed to be done for the day…by late afternoon/early evening we were all very hungry and would then wind down the day with eating then before relaxing for the evenings. Perhaps not something most would wanna do, but it is doable without suffering from starvation and/or lack of nutrients, especially with the support of daily vitamins.

I was thinking about your reference to the diaper rash cream. I remember when my kids were small and they would get a mosquito bite and would scratch it raw, when I would put Desitin on it, it was amazing how quickly it would heal up that area. Even though those diaper days are long gone, yours was a good reminder to purchase some of that for multiple reasons.

Also, a caution about cakes in the jar…I’ve done them many times, and correctly. They have a high frequency of deterioration and standardly don’t always last like some report they do. With no preservatives added to the batter, even with a solid seal, they’ll still turn rancid. Just a thought to keep in mind and not necessarily count on them for substantial long term storage.

Shad.

Rose’s prep list has been added to the wiki.

I put together a 2 page Q&A sheet (got most of the info from www.survivetheflu — they have a free handout that you can request in quantity) and a 4 page list of food and supplies, gleaned from Rose and Owl’s Nest. Focused on what I thought the typical person might be able to deal with and find at the local Costco or WalMart. Ran off a couple of dozen copies and popped them in the neighbors’ mailboxes after the carrier came thru today, so they would be there with the regular mail. I hope people take the time to read them and follow up by watching the movie on Tuesday. It’s really disheartening to hear “what’s birdflu? I’ve never heard of it,” from so many people I run into.

I also saw somewhere that the Newt Gingrich thing on Fox is being repeated on Saturday. Can’t find what time, though. Anybody know?

I’m glad our lists helped some…..I saw the same ad for Newt on Fox & will watch this time. My husband said about the May 9th movie coming up that he didn’t jnow whether to watch or boycott it since it appeared to be a sensationalized movie and they would probably end up Bush-bashing anyway & he didn’t want to hear it. (Even our cats are Republicans!) I hope I can say all throughout the movie, “ well THAT bit of info wasn’t sensationalized”!

Rose

Saddle Tramp I did some digging…here’s the LINK

The Bird Flu: Fact and Fiction

Sat., May 6 at 10 p.m. ET

Hosted by Newt Gingrich

Americans have heard about the deadly bird flu virus and they’ve watched it start to move from Southeast Asia halfway across the world. Scores of people have already died and scientists fear is that the virus will mutate until it can pass rapidly from human to human. (see link for more information)

My only suggestion is that the laser sights on the pistol are a waist of money. Try shooting with them at speed and also for accuracy and you will notice they don’t work. Just practice with your weapon and you will be a lot better off.

I just wanted to express my appreciation to I’m-workin’-on-it for all the work involved in compiling such a list! It’s too much for starter preppers, but for people who have already got most of the basics (like many of us on fluwiki, I assume) THIS IS THE PERFECT LIST for checking against to see if you’ve missed anything.

I’d like to add a few suggestions of my own to your wonderful list:

1. Powerpack/Backup power system (e.g. Canadian tire sells the MotoMaster Eliminator line of PowerBox power packs with inverters; Noma sells a line of Backup Power Systems).

These are rated by wattage (get the highest wattage level you can afford because it will support higher-wattage items like fridges).

Noma’s system is intended for emergency backup of electric devices in case of power failure. Lower watt items such as cell phones, Blackberries and other PDAs, and laptop computers can be supported for hours (19–120 hours for devices from 25 down to 5 watts).

The Eliminator PowerBoxes can be charged in several ways (power outlet, car battery, solar panels) and can be connected to your car battery (recharge/maintain) or any electrical device. I have used this powerbox very successfully several nights in a row for my CPAP machine, for example.

2. An air cleaner using ultraviolet UVC light to kill germs, bacteria and viruses in the air (handy in a sick room or to pretect others outside the sick room), this works similar to the UVC systems used in hospitals to sterilize medical instruments. Two models of such devices that I am aware of are The Sharper Image’s line of Air Sanitizer products (from mini units that hang from doorknobs or hooks to complete floor-standing models), and several of the air purification systems made by Heaven Fresh. Snowy Owl and GaudiaRay on The Flu Clinic arranged a special 10% discount code tobe used when ordering: read the thread here.

I’d consider both 1. and 2. to be more advanced preps; don’t buy these first, get the rice and beans and masks and latex gloves and toilet paper first :-D

Also, there’s been a LOT of (sometimes vociferous) debate on the utility of black elderberry extract (Sambucol bu Nature’s Way is one product) in a pandemic. Some are warning against it, and others are making the case for it. You can do a keyword search on “Sambucol” or “elderberry” on TheFluClinic.com or here on the FluWiki if you have several spare hours to wander through and understand all the arguments and counter-arguments on this contentious issue.

I have a link up to the research study poster (put up at a London conference in January 2006) which stated that Sambucol was effective at significantly neutralizing the infectivity of the H5N1 virus in cell cultures, so you can read it. (Click on “All Sizes” to select the largest size for reading.)

Quite frankly, I don’t want to get involved in YAED (yet another elderberry debate). NOBODY knows yet how well Sambucol or Tamiflu or Amantidine or any other herbal/drug whill work against a pandemic strain of the H5N1 flu virus. However, it is absolutely certain that any such drug will be nearly impossible to obtain once the pandemic breaks out. So whatever herbals/drugs you’re putting your faith in, GET IT STOCKED NOW AND DON’T WAIT.

Thank you for letting me contribute to your fabulous list,

  —Q.

Anonymous & Quiplash,

Thanks for commenting on the list & adding to it! I’m sooooo inept at the baby stuff, alternative power options, herbal options, as well as the firearms sections, so I’m grateful for the others who provided their lists so that we could all make use of them…and provided extra hints and suggestions.

Thanks all,

Rose

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