The “Forum Questions” Project. These Forum derived questions will be stored on the wiki for access and editing.
continuing the discussion with this partial post from Dude (and see also Announcing the Large File Communications Project, which is but an aspect of this):
we hope to have (eventually)
but the difference I see is that what we suggest has no strings on it at all. Copy, distribute, whatever as long as it gets out for as free as it can be.
Yes. And with the material designed by us. Web 3.0, indeed.
of course, the first part of Dude’s post was a compliment to MaMa, left off only because it would have been out of context. ;-)
Very cool. Thanks Dem…
Questions for the Water Treatment Professionals:
1. If there were interruptions in the land transportation system i.e. trucking, trains, and cars, how long would it be before you start seeing of shortage of needed supplies and what types of problems would it cause? 2. What are the supply levels that you plan on having in stock in case of an emergency such as a pandemic flu? 3. If a set of circumstances arise that cuts off your supply of electricity, how does your department fulfill its job with no power? 4. Do you have a system to notify your service community (ies) that you do not have a safe level of chlorine (if used) and the water is not fit to drink? Again if there is no power, how do you do this? 5. Have you any information that says you should adjust your chlorine (if used) levels to kill a virus such as H5N1? 6. Do you know if H5N1 can live in the ground water supply? 7. What activities are under way to develop a plan for this emergency? 8. How will you keep the water treatment department staffed during a time of a pandemic flu? 9. Will the residents be able to drink their water at all times without fear of any adverse effects during a pandemic flu? 10. If there is no electricity, will there be parts of your supply district that will have no water due to the absence of pumps to get the water into storage tanks. 11. Is the source of our water from ground wells or surface water? Are pumps used?
This is just a start on one set of potential questions. Look at the development of these questions as an opportunity for this community to give you a tool to find out about your own situation. You sure don’t have to wait until a full blown kit is done.
What makes this easier is that we (see above) are working on the questions. The answers will be local.
Dem, Dude, and wiki crew,
I’ve had a couple of really rough days (2 broken down cars and little sleep) that have taken my attention from the Wiki, but I will be able to work the slide project again starting Saturday. If you need any more maps animated, visual magic, layout clean-up, etc. drop me a line. Tonight, I’m going to try for 6 hours of sleep instead of 4. And both cars are fixed, but I’m broke (bada-bing). I’ll check back in the morning for any updates.
I like the ideas you guys are running with here. Maybe we need to arrange virtual “bookshelves” to keep the similar materials organized and be sure it is the most current (time stamp the release date in the title?), and give feedback after each presentation as a “lessons learned” to help sharpen areas that need it and dial these resources in for the first month or two. That would make many more confident to know what has worked before when setting their presentations. I’ll help out on that because it is also on my resume (which is why it has to be on a CD to cover it all).
I wonder if this is how a Swiss Army knife feels?
Keep folding Tray75. A Swiss knife has something for everyone, but needs to be rested and maintained to be any good at all.
The lessons learned, feedback loop, is invaluable is only to give us an alert on potential questions from the audiences.
Thanks for all of your help!
Dude, that’s very nice of you to say. If that is the case:-), then certainly no more so than all the others who shine so steadily and brightly here on the wiki, yourself included.
Ok, Tray75 you better not post to this thread until you have rested. You too DEM.
Questions for Waste Water Treatment managers:
1. If there were interruptions in the land transportation system i.e. trucking, trains, and cars, how long would it be before you start seeing of shortage of needed supplies and what types of problems would it cause? 2. What are the supply levels that you plan on having in stock in case of an emergency such as a pandemic flu? 3. If a set of circumstances arise that cuts off your supply of electricity, how does your department fulfill its job with no power? 4. Do you have a system to notify your service community (ies) that you do not have the capacity to process waste? 5. What happens to the untreated waste in this circumstance? 6. Are there any steps you want the people in your service area to take? 7. Will residents be able to use their facilities if you are operating with no treatment? 8. What activities are under way to develop a plan for a pandemic flu emergency? 9. How will you keep the waste water treatment department staffed during a time of a pandemic flu? 10. Are pumps used in the system and if there is no electricity, will there be parts of your disposal district that will have a waste water backup due to the absence of pumps to move things along? 11. Can the sewer pipes freeze in the winter if water and electricity are cut off?
Dude, THANK YOU!
Is anyone making an archive of FluWiki? Whether or not TSHTF, this is a beautiful experience of humanity working.
The Sistine Chapel is glorious, and I see similar motives here.
…and yep, I’m kinda tired, too.
Questions for your board of health:
1. What is the most important thing you wish to tell the members of your community about a potential pandemic flu? 2. What is your role should a pandemic flu come to our community? 3. What extra powers can be invoked in a pandemic flu emergency? 4. What do you want the members of this community to do? 5. How do we decide as a community who is in charge and who has the right to tell us what to do? How do we know a person is who they claime? 6. Who will receive the first available vaccine shots? 7. Who made that decision? 8. If you think there are reasons somebody essential has been overlooked, how do you go about telling the people in charge about their oversight? 9. How long of a time do you estimate it will be before we have 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% of our residents vaccinated with the emergent pandemic vaccine? 10. Will our community be receiving best guess vaccinations made before the pandemic strain emerged? 11. How will we know the difference? 12. Once we receive the pandemic strain shot, will we be immune from all further waves of the pandemic? 13. What is being done to help treat those of us who become ill? 14. Where and how will they receive medical help? 15. What do we do with a body should someone in our family die at home? 16. How and who do we contact about a sick person in our family? 17. Will we all be forced to leave our homes if one member of our family becomes ill? 18. Are there plans to have people treated in their homes or at a large facility? 19. Can family members in proper garb help with the care of their loved ones and if they do will they be able to return home?
Wow, the list of questions for this one seem endless! Enough for tonight.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=flu
‘Nuff said.
If you need any more maps animated I will, in time.
Folks, we may need to start a thread on sleeping. Actually, I hope I’m kidding.
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Dude, we want to have questions a la Appreciative Inquiry (initials like AI, but not the same) and Open Space Technology. Not just “problems”. As you say, we want to empower people. Simply.
We might invite people to start off with the five questions that are most important for them.
The power of invitation is something obvious on this site. Let’s have more of that, no?
So invite Lugon. Please let me empower you who have a different perspective. Grin. I am sitting here looking for very good advice on this and you have the nerve to provide it. I have notice the video link on google before, but what is lacking in most information on the subject is real day to day and community specificity. The kind of detail we get here on the wiki. So, take the tread and lead in the direction of AI. Let’s see what we can do. In the end I have never made a claim to own anything but my own existence…and even that I am still debating about.
Five, or seven, either’s a good number. Pick the most important ones and let everyone edit them. This is the link, also at the top of the page. That could be done there or here if you dont like PmWiki markup. Then we preserve it on the (hey, Timber?) wiki proper, which is an archive, and the wiki index (see L sidebar).
So far we have water and BOH topics for questions.
Yes, Dem — I know… I used to be smart, until my kids became teenagers. The artist/author in my spirit just wants to understand if the dynamics of the forum are being archived. The give and take and emotions. In the future, I think it could be mined for posterity as well as history.
Forgive me if you’ve ‘splained this to me afore. Maybe ‘splain it to my kids? They’re real literate on this here machine…
You all do great work.
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You are so right. ;-)
This is the Forum index, to not lose the sponteneity. The other link is a wiki link and is more formal. Do it here, and someone else will do it there. ;-)
added here. it’s a good example of the forum building the wiki, and you can find the links in the Forum index easily no matter what happens to this thread.
Questions not asked yet:
Is your staff being instructed to, or have they already started to, stock up their households to be prepared in case of prolonged supply chain disruptions?
How will your staff get to work if there are gasoline shortages, public transit shutdowns, or any sort of roadblocks? (How will roads be kept passable in winter?)
15. What do we do with a body should someone in our family die at home? & Are plans in place to expand who is allowed to pronounce death and sign legal death certificates, to expedite and not let bodies pile up in storage?
(Guess we need a whole, “Questions for Mass Casualty Management pandemic planning department, private/public sector”, eh?)
crfullmoon, added your questions to wikiproper - keep ‘em comin’!
Dem, maybe there’s need for another “awareness week”? Maybe when we have slides and videos and things? btw, mine is almost done.
cool, send ‘em when you got ‘em. I’m going to open the ftp for inspection after that. And I have promises from monotreme and anon_22 for more (eventually).
Once we have them, we can approach the mix ‘n’ match ‘n’ make your own concept.
In addition, we can keep this up and running (I forgot to put water on the original wiki page) - Dude at 15:52. I’ll do it tomorrow if it’s not done yet.
Dude, I’ll look into Appreciative Inquiry and come up with my (their) 5 questions. It would be something along the lines of:
lugon asks a good question, Dem. When we get the multimedia links assembled, it is time for another pandemic flu awareness week (after labor day, the media is on vacation right now.)
Yes, after labor day. I’d go for the first week in october, one year down the line from the last one.
Dem, I will finish it soon. I just think I need to stop thinking about it for a couple of days. I think I’ve finally groked disruption. It’s this “simultaneously” part that really blows it.
Re Appreciative Inquiry, or at least along that line, we might have local votation to select the best “prepping list”: 20 people read them all and vote, so the others in the neighbourhood just select the most voted. Maybe just a way to elicit conversations around it. Whatever works.
And of course, the list of questions itself could be voted on, also as a conversation starter. Which five questions should we ask our senator (or whatever)? I can almost imagine the pencil hanging from a piece of string, near the paper nailed to the wall, waiting for anonymous votes …
Whatever works is right.
BTW, on June 27, Flu Wiki is one year old. ;-)
Over one million served. ;-)
VISITS
Total 1,007,905 Average Per Day 2,309 Average Visit Length 3:45 Last Hour 84 Today 2,024 This Week 16,161 PAGE VIEWS Total 4,588,313 Average Per Day 5,142 Average Per Visit 2.2 Last Hour 238 Today 4,597 This Week 35,992
My questions for first responders ie police/fire/rescue:
1. What is your department’s pandemic plan today?
2. Have you had/do you want/have you asked for any educational inservices on pandemic flu and pandemic planning? Do you know who to ask/where to get this information if you need it?
3. What PPE’s/policies/procedures do you have in place today to protect yourself/manage a patient who has a highly contagious respiratory illness?
4. During a pandemic, what plans (personal) do you have to:
get paid?
pay your bills?
get food/medications/cook/bathe/get potable water
get to work if there is a ban on public transportation and/or shortage of gasoline?
Who will take care of you should you become ill?
Who will care for your family/loved ones if they become ill?
5. for EMS: What plans does your township in place today to deal with sick patients if the ER’s are filled and turning patients away? Would you continue to pick up sick patients if you do not have a firm destination to take them? What are the laws regarding management of patients you pick up if you are turned away by ER’s?
6. What is your current emergency plan? How would you manage a 40% employee abseentism that could stretch out over 2 months, perhaps longer?
7. How would you handle calls that involve managing dead bodies if local undertakers/medical examiners are unable to remove them?
8. Do you have a jail or prison, psychiatric facility, boarding home(s)/group home(s), nursing home(s) in your town? How will this special needs population be served if their caregivers are absent/sick? How will those on parole, house arrest, Megan’s Law be managed with a manpower shortage?
9. What alternate communications systems do you have in place should the power go our for an extended period of time?
10. For police: What are your plans to continue public safety with a significant loss of employees due to illness, death, illness in family? What is the succession policy for management? Can you enforce a quarantine if one or more were ordered? Can you also guard hospitals, pharmacies, vaccination, medication distribution sites? How would you manage a call to assist an ill person at home with no available/willing/able caregiver, and the ER’s are closed? What would you do with surviving children if their parent(s) have died, and DHS not able to take them? Are there plans in place ie facilities for your care if you are injured in the line of duty?
DemFromCT – at 22:11 Over one million served. ;-)
Congrats! and happy anniversary!!!!!
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Just got back from an Inconvient Truth. Really good job on the questions everyone. This is turning out well. Questions to the local TV, Radio, Newspaper i.e. communication: 1. How are you going to provide information to your community in the event of a pandemic flu? 2. Are there plans in our community to establish any type of daily information to the residents if we loose power? 3. What do you see as your role during a pandemic? 4. Are there any plans to use mechanical typewriters and duplication by stencil machines? 5. Are there any thoughts of sending reporters through the neigborhoods to gather information on the state of our community? 6. Are you coordinating your efforts with local government, health professionals, funeral parlors, police, fire etc. 7. What do you see as the biggest information discemination problem and how are you going to overcome it? 8. Do you have plans to stock pile needed supplies to keep the information flowing? 9. How will your staff be protected if they have to report on a “hot” area? 10. Are you gathering lists and contact proceedures now that might provide critical sources of information later for the community?
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Dude – at 01:01 --- What’s a typewriter? ;-)
BB runs back to his cave, hoping Dude doesn’t find him….
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Stop bumping - copy a few questions to the Questions wiki-page. ;)
It’s just (ok maybe not that simple but do try it sometime):
Someone will edit it.
FYI, I’ve started a page on the wiki, called Explaining Pandemics. This might be the main index to the different modules of our set of slide-packs.
I’ll have a more comprehensive thingie soon, but please add your “overall mindmap to explain things to others”.
Can those with sandbox skills monitor this thread for inclusion into the page? Thanks, I tried doing it and once again showed myself why I don’t do sandbox very well. Also, I want to ask the community to come up with (leading?) questions for those persons who are not ready to prep. I have noticed that there is interest in this topic. I don’t have time today…I am a father after all. grin. Happy Fathers day to all you dads out there.
Happy Father’s Day to Dude and all the other wiki-Dads!
Somewhat on the subject of Dude’s post at 10:25- I think a Personal Pandemic Risk Assessment Self-Quiz might be a good idea. Alot of people have trouble dealing with conversations on potentially emotionally-charged topics like this ‘cold’. Especially if they are very logic oriented in their decision-making. Some have a strong tendency to resist an idea until they have had the opportunity to think it out a bit themselves(that’s my hubby all the way:-)
The general idea would be to have a chart with areas like Food, Water, Heat, Electricity, Medication, Job Continuity, etc. with listings under Your Life Now - Mild Pandemic Possibilities - Moderate to Severe Pandemic Possibilities. With each listing for Mild and Severe Pandemic Possibilities there would be two sections- 1 with possible challenges/disruptions and another beneath how you would cope with these should they occur. With any luck it might help get the wheels turning on why planning and prep might be beneficial TO THEM…
I’ll try to come up with a rough chart by tomorrow (likely very rough:-), my sandbox skills are minimal) and it can be refined from there. Thoughts, suggestions?
MaMa, lugon’s explaining 3 flus might help as well. And check his markup for tables!
Thanks DemFromCT! That’s very helpful (and I can use all of the help I can get:-)
Super job lugon!
Please check out explaining pandemics for where this project is going.
Questions: People who need to know about a potential pandemic flu - the first time?
1. Why is this important on a personal level? Answer: Because you and your family have a chance to die as well as millions of your neighbors.
2. Why should you be concerned about events in Asia? Answer: Because it can start in Asia and be here in two weeks or as long as a month.
3. Have you ever had a common cold and are you pretty sure you will catch one again? Answer: Yes. Well, it may change to be just as easy to catch as a common cold.
4. Can’t you just get a shot for it? Answer: Yes, of course, but it will take 3 months to a year to get you your shot.
5. What can be done if it is very easy to catch and kills so many? Answer: The best answer is to shelter in place with food and water.
6. Where can I go to get more information? Answer: If you have a computer, try fluwiki.com. If not, I will get you more information.
ok, so I made time to start the one @16:30
Thanks, MaMa!
lugon bends back - ouch!
I’s just thinkin’ - this is not for MaMa but for whoever would like to do it - Would it make sense to have a presentation about “respiratory prevention”? From modes of transmission to elbow-coughing to masks of all kinds.
A knowledge-package - with a date-stamp on it because it would be superseded as knowledge or masks advance. We would have to be extra-careful about this.
We could try that out as “action research” (if that’s what it’s called) over the next flu season - which means Now in the Southern Hemisphere! Just have half of the army use that CD etc, and the other half not use it, and see what happens.
The “vision” here would be a knowledge-package with a wiki-page, a set of slides first developed on a wiki-page and then as a ppp, and then probably a video as a divx .iso or something equally geeky (but useful if you don’t mind).
lugon looks at the empty coffe-pot. Too empty.
lugon climbs down from the ceiling.
lugon, where are you?
NS1, here - hi!
faint smile
LOL
FYI: I just started another index page about a “respiratory prevention package”. Please add to it!
Nice start, lugon. Are you in Europe?
Looking at the most recent updated info on confirmed cases I think the structure of the table could be better.
Countries are sorted alphabetically, and they might be sorted by the date they had their first case.
Not sure about the details but it would look like this (I hope it works!):
| Country | 2003 cases | 2004 cases | 2005 cases | 2006 cases (updated 20 june) |
| Azerbaijan | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 |
| Cambodia | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 |
| China | 0 | 0 | 8 | 11 |
| Djibouti | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Egypt | 0 | 0 | 0 | 14 |
| Indonesia | 0 | 0 | 17 | 34 |
| Iraq | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| Thailand | 0 | 17 | 5 | 0 |
| Turkey | 0 | 0 | 0 | 12 |
| Viet Nam | 3 | 29 | 61 | 0 |
| Total | 3 | 46 | 95 | 84 |
Silly me - forgot to sort them! Anyway, here it is:
(Some countries may be in the wrong order. I’ve saved the raw table in my profile, for easy grab and refine or update. Zeroes are turned to “-“ for better visibility.)
| Country | 2003 cases | 2004 cases | 2005 cases | 2006 cases (updated 20 june) |
| Viet Nam | 3 | 29 | 61 | - |
| Thailand | - | 17 | 5 | - |
| Cambodia | - | - | 4 | 2 |
| Indonesia | - | - | 17 | 34 |
| China | - | - | 8 | 11 |
| Iraq | - | - | - | 2 |
| Egypt | - | - | - | 14 |
| Azerbaijan | - | - | - | 8 |
| Djibouti | - | - | - | 1 |
| Turkey | - | - | - | 12 |
| Total | 3 | 46 | 95 | 84 |
Lessons: Viet Nam could do it. Indonesia, so far, hasn’t been able to do it. This beast was containable some time ago, now it’s worse. It’s just one more step in making the invisible visible. Courtsey of fluwikie.
This belongs in the News thread, really. Help yourselves! :)
Vietnam and Thailand do it differently. Indonesia isn’t Vietnam (duh!).
Thanks, lugon. see what happens when you learn a little mark-up? ;-)
The idea is intertesting, we can have two tables, but someone has to update them.
Nah, I think the idea is to have just one table. Better than WHO’s if you ask me ;), but just one. By the way, it’s here.
And yes, someone(s) has to mantain them. Just remember, when you go look at the WHO table, come over to fluwikie’s to update it.
There’s another way to present the information here.
too busy; i like visually simple.
it’s a good idea. Run it by monotreme, who voluntarily maintains the page.
I am afraid that I don’t have the table that I hoped to done yet, I’m sorry. My sis broke her leg and due to that I have to start travelling to events earlier and more than I planned to. I’ll work on it and get it up as soon as I can but it probably won’t happen for awhile. If someone else likes the idea and runs with it, great! In that case I’ll help out with it when I get back for more than a few hours at a time.
Lugon, I am not worthy grin…that is a great table…been very busy with work…more later.
Does anyone have information on the number of deaths that are “highly probable” (index case never tested, family cluster member buried before testing, etc.? That would be an interesting col to add. It would need a tight definition, but would provide some great data. Hmmm.
oh, We really need that as a power point slide. It is clear, powerful communication for Dem large file project. By the way I can’t find the continuation thread.
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Questions for your Police Department.
Do you have enough support from the community, city, county, state and federal governments to allow you to keep doing your jobs during a pandemic?
What will be your role during a pandemic?
Do you have a plan to keep members of your department on the job?
Do you have a personnel procedure that allows your officers to refuse to work?
What steps are being discussed to deal with civil disorder?
What agencies are you going to be working most closely with during a pandemic?
Have you thought about the chain of command should Homeland Security or State Health Agencies or some other agency be given temporary emergency powers?
Have you had any training on what temporary powers might be granted during a national health emergency like a pandemic flu?
Do you have supplies of gloves and masks and other gear to keep you officers safe and do you have ppe and Tamiflu available to you?
How will you enforce the forced movement of exposed people to holding areas to see if they have the flu?
Will you be protecting critical supplies of food, electricity, and medicine?
How will you enlist community support and volunteers to help you with your mission during a pandemic?
What steps will you take to inform the public of emergency procedures and how will the public know the people who have the rights to tell them to do things? Will there be badges or other IDs?
How will your department function without electricity, food or water, if they become scarce or intermittently available?
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Dude and Grace RN. These are great questions that you pose — if you have not already checked out the Harvard School of Public Health Avian Flu exercise, please do! Many of these same issues (and more) are detailed in different first responder sections:
The website is: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hcphp/products/exercises/Avian_Influenza_Tabletop.pdf
Perhaps you can incorporate this exercise into your knowledge package, or whatever document you are creating. Public Health and Public Safety Professionals might be more open to these SAME issues if they are presented by an accreditted organization. Now, if you have DIFFERENT issues, why don’t you concentrate on creating an original document that addresses them.
No use reinventing the wheel! Especially a wheel that carries a big stick: ( Harvard SPH).
Anon-15:00 The project is explained at the link on the top of the page…that is just an FYI. We are aimed at the community level so that an individual person could go to their police department and ask the questions posted. They then could share that information in whatever way they wish with the rest of the community. It is an empowerment exercise in that we allow all members of the forum to add questions that they might want to know in the event of a pandemic. From my review of both, it seems there are excellent questions in each source. It seems that the same issue is being addressed but one perspective is for the organization where the wiki perspective is for the community and their understanding or relationship to that agency. I will see to it that some of those questions are incorporated with a change of perspective. Thank you so much for that link and document. It is very helpful. Pick a real tag and stay around.
So there’s no need to actually video-record the interview?
the police Q have been added to the forum questions wiki page.
oops… part of the anon experiment… that was me.
Lugon- I have expectations for what people will do based on what they do. I hope that they will setup a camera and tape the interview…or tape record…or take notes. But folks may not have the time or the inclination to do that. It does take a certain kind of personality who is willing to question authority figures. I plan on it as soon as I can. We will see just how much empowerment a community wants to handle. This is why the wiki is such a great experiment. Ok wiki this is the challenge to you. Are you going to help your community or not? Do you see a better way to understand what is going to happen in YOUR HOME AREA than to ask questions of your government? Maybe you want to forward the questions to a local reporter?
Dude, great suggestion about forwarding questions to a reporter! let them run with the ball for awhile.
Perhaps a H.S. or college journalism class would find this an interesting assignment.
P.S. About your tag…are you related to ‘His Royal Dudeness’ from the Big L. ?
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If nothing else, this trainee journalist thing is a great topic for a future awareness week. Or for a fluwikie’s birthday party.
I feel like such a geek. I have no clue who The Big L is? My friends know me affectionately as: Duh? Dude! It has a valley twang to it if you know what I mean.
Questions for nursing homes:
How are you going to keep your facility functioning during a Pandemic?
What are your plans to get low paid health care workers or nurses aids to show up for work?
What are your plans to get your nursing staff to show up for work?
What are your plans to get Administrators to show up for work?
Do you plan on your facility to be closed to the family of your residents in order to help isolate them from a pandemic?
What procedures will you have in place for visitors/staff to sanitize themselves when they enter?
How will you provide the necessary food and medicine for your residents during a pandemic?
How long will you be able to afford to shelter in place in a pandemic?
Where will residents go and how will they get there in the event that you are no longer able to provide care?
What resources are you getting from the State and Federal government to insure continuity of care for your residents?
What do you anticipate conditions will be like here during a pandemic?
Do you have plans prior to a pandemic to get the family of record to take the elderly into their home for a pandemic?
How will a family taking on the care of a nursing home relative receive the support they need to do this job?
Is it really true that the elderly will be disposable during a pandemic?
How can you keep your cash flow going to pay for the needed medicine, food and salaries if we have no functioning government or infrastructure to respond to medicare, private insurance, and medicaid billings?
If a patient gets infected, how are you going to isolate them?
Does your facility have training scheduled to help them sort out all theses issues?
You should read my last set of questions…they are real…I did ask them.
I am so shocked about the answers I received, that I URGE EVERYONE WITH A PARENT, GRANDPARENT OR ANY LOVED ONE IN A NURSING HOME TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS! SEND THEM TO A REPORTER IN YOUR TOWN!
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The Big Lebowski. The Dude is a central character, based on a real life character.
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The Big Lebowski - of course. Did not know it as The Big L. All I can say is I bowl.
Dude,
To much information, LOL!
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Do we have a tread on what will happen to nursing home patients in the event of a pandemic? Anyone find one? I may start it by posting the answers I received when I took my own advice and asked my own questions posted above. I asked the Administrator of a nursing home in a Northeast state. No other identification so that person will not be punished for their honesty with me. I have known him for 15 years. I say again! IF YOU HAVE ANYONE IN A NURSING HOME ASK THEM THE QUETIONS ABOVE AND ADD SOME YOU CAN THINK OF. This is not just a mental exercise folks. Their lives are at stake. I just don’t have the time to do it right now.
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Dude,
Can you post the answers you received?
yes, I will.
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