More questions? Ask away…
Continued from here.
Yo BB! I hate to say it, but I think we are being had. The anonymous ya’ll seem to think is GS, well, I’m pretty sure it’s not. The rhythm of his words, spellings, punctuation is all off. I think this anonymous started this hoo-haw by mentioning (indirectly) our GS as being someone who was mis-understood and suffering from hurt feelings. I may be wrong, but I don’t think so.
Hard to say, since anonymous is anonymous. you could be right. Perhaps if he/she is having feelings of angst, he/she should seek professional help to move past these feelings of inadequacy.
(Did that sound perfessional?) :-)
Indeed! Do you remember G mentioning that he was being harassed by someone who had tracked him through his forum activities (which forum, I dunno)? I really believe he thinks he’s been targeted for harassment/spam and may not know how to improve security on his computer. Monotreme tried to explain clearing cookies or something earlier tonight, but I don’t know if G actually saw it. I am sorry that G can’t reconcile his problems with this forum, because I like him and his rare flashes of dry humor, and I believe he really has a passion for the science of avian flu. IMHO, he has failed to recognize who his true forum friends were and is wasting many opportunities to continue learning from the great minds here as well as contributing his own insights.
2beans – at 23:03. If one anonymous says something objectionable, they’ve all said it. Maybe if they all get tarred with like brushes they’ll distinguish themselves out of vanity.
~ Well, you already do. Since this is being run into the ground, I can’t help but play too. : ) But something doesn’t make sense: if you studiously ignore all the anonymous posts, then how do you know what the content is? How could you know that they are _all_ malicious unimportant annoying drivel? How can you judge the malicious intent of the poster if you didn’t read it? You can’t have it both ways ~
On the contrary, some of the anonymous posts are insightful, on point, contain carefully considered opinion, well-written, readable and clearly transparent in intent. Some of the posts engage thought and are obviously open to dialogue, without making any demand for response. Some of the anonymous posts serve the purpose of the mission of this board.
No response necessary - this has already gone too far. I’m just being defiant now and I can certainly show myself the door, thanks.
AnonYYZ at 12:00, Hi. Your link to a compost toilet doesn’t work. Please post it again- or better yet would you start a new thread with this as a topic? On The Fence’s post at 23:11 is also very interessing. Thanks to both of you!
Hello Bronco Bill, at 01:03 on the Illumination Without Electricity thread- you started a second Illumination Without Electricity thread when the first one got too long. The reference to the first part, “click here to find “, brought me to a place on the forum called “here”. I hate to point this out as you do so much for us here and now I’m making more work for you!! It’s just that folks may have a hard time finding the first part as the threads get separated. Enjoy your day!
Ocean2 – at 05:37 ---
I just checked it out, and it seems to work fine. Sure you clicked correctly? Maybe when pogge digs around in here he can take a look to verify. pogge?
I fixed it. :-)
Thannk you anon_22.
Here’s a question, I just read that 1800 ducks have died from bird flu in China. Quote:( The Xinhua news agency reports just over 1,800 ducks have died at the farm in the capital of Hunan province, since the first poultry death was reported on August the 4th.) I thought ducks were carriers and did not die from bird flu. What’s your thoughts, or did I read it wrong. Thanks
Ruth – at 22:14 --- Post the question on either the New Rumors thread, or the News thread (with a link to where you read it) with the header of COMMENT. It’ll be noticed by many more people. Thanks…
Thanks
Anon_yyz
Thanks for the link and info on waste disposal.
Anonymous at 3:43:
I don’t ignore the anonymous posts; I just regard them as all from the same person. I’m not such a student of syntax that I can readily distinguish one voice from another. Content speaks for itself when it can stand alone.
Hello, I have several of your feeds on my site at:(http://www.killerflu.net/prevention___preparations) and links (http://www.killerflu.net/links).
Is it possilbe to link to my site and if so, where do I make that request?
Thanks in Advance.
If anonymous posters do not want to have an official handle for fear of being tracked or some other paranoia, why not just sign it at the bottom of the text with some sort of consistent made-up Name. Is that too much to ask? It would make it so much easier for the rest of us to be able to follow conversations. I was reading a thread the other day with at least 2–3 anonymouses commently, it was very confusing, and frankly rude.
Mosaic
One of the threads,http://www.fluwikie2.com/pmwiki.php?n=Forum.IncreasedCytokineProductionInH5N1Patients has been hit by some strange postings - needs attention.
(Not sure how else to get help on this issue :-) )
Hi AnnieB, or I should say good morning! You’re in NZ, I’m in Amsterdam- we’re both hours ahead of east coast America. Great that you saw the spam and gave the alert, although I’ve learned it doesn’t hurt if you don’t open them up. The mods have asked, if we see spam, to type SPAM ALERT in your author’s box below the spam, then post. This bumps the thread to the top of the list and the next awakw mod, in this case anon_22, will deal with it. Just remember to type in your regular handle before your next post. I appreciate your intellent posts!
OOps! I appreciate your intelligent posts.
Thx Ocean2 I will use the Spam Alert in the future - I am one of these people who does not take on other peoples tasks without permission or approval - don’t want to get it all wrong for them.
I noted in the news thread discussions of a few days ago that you were ‘looking into’ the deaths of the 2 owls in Rotterdam. I think my post regarding vaccines masking infection may have been lost in amongst all the other ‘noise’ on the thread. Anyway, I do hope this is an isolated incident for you all. I LOVE Amsterdam - except for the mad taxi drivers using the tram lines!
Ooops Mods, sorry to hijack your thread for a side conversation. But as Ocean2 said, we are often the nightwatchmen on this site ;-)
Does anyone else feel a bit guilty about the way we casually throw around the names of the little bird flu victims, ages, when their symptoms started, how/whether they died, etc? I was reading through the news thread and suddenly it hit me that these are somebody’s babies. If the bird flu was simmering in my state instead of in Indonesia and my kid died, it would bother me to no end that complete strangers on the other side of the world were bandying her name about like she was just a statistic or something. I know we are tracking the flu and all and nobody means any disrespect to the little victims. Is there anything we can do differently to not be so creepy when we’re referring to the poor kids? Maybe it’s just me being a mom.
Yeah, we mods are bothered by it, too. But there is only so much you can do with the news.
handle – at 20:28 --- It is bothersome, but OTOH, it also puts a face and name on the fact that this is something that may eventually effect everyone, and puts more emphasis on the need to be prepared for it.
I think by using the kids’ names, it brings it to a more personal level. It would be nothing more than a statistic if a victim were simply referred to as “4-year-old male” or “12-year-old female”. Too many people would see that and say to themselves “Ahhhh…that’s somebody else’s kid. Can’t happen to mine.”
Yeah, I see your point about that. What if we just did something as simple as put the names of the victims in color just as a sign of respect and as an indication that these are real people we’re talking about not just statistics? I don’t know, I was just trying to think of some tiny way to show some respect for the poor kids.
handle,
Welcome to the world that clinicians inhabit everyday. And what hits them at quiet moments.
pogge -
Maybe it’s just my connection, but it seems we are slowing down again.
It’s not just your connection. I see it at times as well and I’m on high speed cable. Whenever I see it I check the Last 50 Changes and invariably I see two or more people posting within the space of one or two minutes.
The only immediate solution I can offer is to identify a reasonably large number of threads that can be removed from the server. We started on this server late in April with roughly 400 threads. Now we have nearly 2,200 and experience has taught us that’s the primary culprit.
Bronco Bill shutting down empty threads is a friend.
Just posting to check the time. Taking nothing for granted.
Now that we’re back up, I’d be really interested in feedback on the performance when we get back into prime time traffic. It seems really brisk right now, but there are only a few people online. Maybe there’s something else going on. Now I’m off to check the server stats.
I missed being able ot check in here last night. That was a good reminder of how valuable the site is, so I’d like to say thanks for all you do and for giving preppers a sense of community we may lack in our home towns.
Hear hear Inky. I had instant wiki withdrawal symptoms all day today - so pleased to see you all back. Thanks Mods for a fantastic job.
I hadn’t realized how much I counted on checking in here. Felt like all my “friends” had left without me. I checked other sites to get updated on news, but didn’t feel the comfort level of here. Just lurked and read and waited for wiki to come back. Thank you so much for all you do. Wiki keeps my ppf lower because there are some good people here that make sense to me. Thanks again for all you do.
Having the Forum back is like looking up at the stars while sitting in a hot-tub on a cool autumn evening!
the anonymous wars seem rather silly as long as any newbie who comes along is automatically booked in as an anonymous until they learn the ropes.. (I’m sure you thought of this) and these rules… jeeez rules for this and rules for that.. color here, commentary there and lines everywhere. it makes the place seem clickish like the club the newbies talk about.
I understand the need to guide the threads but I think this format rule thing is a bomb
the anonymous wars seem rather silly as long as any newbie who comes along is automatically booked in as an anonymous until they learn the ropes.. (I’m sure you thought of this) and these rules… jeeez rules for this and rules for that.. color here, commentary there and lines everywhere. it makes the place seem clickish like the club the newbies talk about.
I understand the need to guide the threads but I think this format rule thing is a bomb
swears I only clicked the post button once… guess I’m going to have to give others a mental break
pogge,
Any idea what the problem was? I checked the sitemeter and it didn’t look like much additional traffic yesterday and BB has closed a lot of threads.
pogge – at 06:45 Now that we’re back up, I’d be really interested in feedback on the performance when we get back into prime time traffic.
I have internet access through a T3 connection here at work, and few other people are in the office at this hour, so I have it mostly to myself right now. I show 7 seconds to access a reasonably-long thread (Whats Your PPF August 17, 2006, at 02:29 PM) and 11 seconds to return to the full topic listing.
I’ll check it mid-day (during the lunch hour when I’ll have the connection to myself again here) and see if there is any significant change.
I closed a few threads, but it doesn’t seem to have helped.
Any idea what the problem was?
Warning: geek stuff ahead
Not yet. When I checked the server yesterday just as it was becoming unresponsive, I noted that memory usage was really high. But I’ve seen it nearly as high this morning and seen it drop back down.
It’s interesting what you discover when you study the logs. We’re suddenly getting a lot of attention from MSRBot which is a Microsoft Research web crawler. This isn’t like a spam ‘bot. It’s the same type of crawler that Google et. al. use to index your site for the search engines. As far as I can find out, it doesn’t misbehave. I checked because I wondered if we got hammered by a misbehaving ‘bot but it doesn’t appear so.
Changed my mind. A ‘bot that’s supposed to download robots.txt once a day shouldn’t be asking for it every five seconds so I blocked it. MS will have to do their research elsewhere for now at least.
I’m not saying that’s the problem but at least I can eliminate that as a potential problem.
(asked very un-geekily) Is it anything to do with this thread?
http://www.fluwikie2.com/pmwiki.php?n=Forum.DownloadTheWholeFluwiki
pogge-can you check the thread- if you have a choice should you leave the city. there is some spam? going on there.
crfullmoon: Good thought but the wiki was fine. It was the forum that went down.
lohrewok: Mess cleaned up and domain blocked. Thank you kindly.
Pogge:
The social distancing thread has a side-scroll and the wiki seems to be getting a little sluggish.
The sidescroll is due to the image in the opening post. I’ll see if I can reduce it later without losing legibility. The sluggishness isn’t apparent to me right now. Sometimes it’ll come and go depending on how many people are trying to read and/or write at exactly the same time. But I’ll continue to monitor and thanks.
Dennis in Colorado – at 08:52 7 seconds to access (Whats Your PPF August 17, 2006, at 02:29 PM) and 11 seconds to return to the full topic listing.
Now 19 seconds to access the same closed thread and 29 seconds to return to the full topic listing.
Dennis in Colorado – at 14:15 --- Dennis, it’s gotta be your ‘net connection, even a T-3. I’m getting 3–4 second responses…posting takes about 10 seconds
It could be partly Dennis’ connection but not necessarily. You can take the Site Meter report on visitors in the last hour as an approximation of current traffic but it doesn’t tell you accurately what the conditions are when you click on a link or a button. You may be the only one requesting a page at that exact moment or you may be one of five. Or ten. If you’re saving a post, or someone else is, the operation in question takes even longer and the person whose request comes second has to wait that little bit more before his request is acknowledged.
i got banned at home for be stupid I guess. Is there any way to unban me?
Yeah, Dennis. I knew that. What pogge said! ;-)
Okidokie – at 15:13 --- Talk nicely to your significant other.
A PS to Dennis:
It’s not that the information isn’t valuable. I appreciate it and I would expect things to be slower now than at 7 am. But it’s a relatively small sample. Does anyone else have any impressions? Are we more or less where you would expect us to be for the time of day?
Warning: non-technical opinion to follow….
It feels about right to me. Somewhat faster or slower depending on the thread I choose. Generally, it takes maybe half the time to load a thread than it does to return to the main forum listing.
Pogge: Questions not comments ok. If the wikie was hit wit a web crawler, possible someone accessing your system to place in a search engine? Possible Government (some where in the world) down load of all data? Possible university / med school down load of all data? Just really weird that it went down just as folks were cueing up on the cluster in INDO.
If the pandemic seems to be getting closer, or fears are getting greater, is it liekly this site will lock up (like yesterday) due to so many people trying to log in and post/read?
If the pandemic seems to be getting closer, or fears are getting greater, is it likely this site will lock up (like yesterday) due to so many people trying to log in and post/read?
pogge…since moving to the new server a few months ago, have you ever been able to do a “stress test” to find out what kind of capacity in terms of hits the Forum can handle? The Wiki? Does the host limit the number of incoming connections?
If the server gets hit with too many requests in a very short period of time, I would think it would react much like a DoS attack…
Even today the forum is running quite slow for me. I bet when things seem to be REALLY picking up with BF, all of us may not be able to get on.
In the event of pandemic, we are working to move the wiki to more robust hosting, like the Google or Amazon servers.
Possible Government (some where in the world) down load of all data?
There’s no evidence of that. Besides why would a government go after the forum and ignore the wiki?
is it likely this site will lock up (like yesterday) due to so many people trying to log in and post/read?
Theoretically enough traffic will overload any server. The limit depends on the particular hardware and software combination.
have you ever been able to do a “stress test” to find out what kind of capacity in terms of hits the Forum can handle?
I pretty much figured real life was the stress test. There’s no limit placed on the number of connections other than the practical one - that too many hits at once would slow us to a crawl or bring us down altogether.
What if the forum goes down again? Where can we go for up to date info? I went to flutrackers, but dang it. It was so hard to find info there. There wasn’t much actual discussion going on, just posting of articles. As hyped as i was yesterday, I wanted more input from people here that i trust. KWIM? ITSHTF, is there someway you could info people via the main page?
The time shown on posts within threads are quite different from those showing on the topic index - main forum page. For example, the last post here is 20:54 but the main page shows 08:54 for the same post.
The issue is for those of us in completely different time zones attempting to determine what ‘wiki-time’ is. I had jsut got used to it and now I am confused - confusing me isn’t that difficult though :-)
Wiki time is always Eastern Daylight Time in the US.
Oh doh! The internal thread time is the 24 hour clock, the one on the forum page has the little letters ‘am’ and ‘pm’ on them - oh silly silly silly me. Just going into the cupboard to get my “stupid person” sign to wear for the rest of the day …
is there someway you could info people via the main page?
Don’t forget that the actual wiki is on a different server. We did put a notice yesterday afternoon on that main page to let people know the forum was down temporarily. That would be the first place to check.
pogge,
I think performance improved once you blocked the Microsoft robot. As I’m typing this, an image of a bad science fiction movie is coming into my head ;-) (Bill Gate’s head on a Robot saying “Destroy all Macintoshes, Destroy all Macintoshes”)
Seriously, why would Microsoft send a robot to download text every 5 seconds? What would the point be of that? Have you sent them an email asking them why they did this?
Robots.txt is a file used on a Linux server to control the way crawlers interact with your site. The first thing a well-behaved crawler does is check that file to see if it’s allowed to crawl the site and if there are folders it should stay out of. According to the Microsoft Research page on msrbot, it’s supposed to check for that file once a day. I did a little more research before blocking it and found that others had seen the same behaviour — that it was checking repeatedly and sometimes as often as every five seconds which matched what I saw in my log. It had already been reported to MS so I didn’t bother. I just added it to my own robots.txt and told it to mind its own business.
As to the original problem, it’s worth pointing out what someone in email suggested to me — it could well have been a hardware or network problem that the hosting company fixed and didn’t bother to mention. (When I went to bed last night, I was still waiting for tech support to do the physical reboot I’d requested. The site appears to have come back online around 1 AM Eastern.) I haven’t found any better explanation and things seem to be running fine right now (except that I should still do some archiving to reduce the thread count in the long term).
Both explanations make sense. However, there is still a considerable lag time when I try to go back to the main discussion page from a thread. Going to a thread is usually OK. Perhaps because BB “terminates” them before they get too long.
pogge---When you archive the old threads, and I’m just sticking my nose in here, will the archive be set up so that you can append to it at a later date? If you archive them and leave them searchable on the Wiki server, ‘twould be a shame to have to maneuver through several archive files to find what a person might be looking for…unless multiple archive files could be linked via the search function.
I’m thinking the corporate way here, but maybe doing a monthly, or even quarterly, archive. It’s been over 4 months, and we’re just now seeing the file count as high as it is, so maybe a quarterly archive would be the best…
Monotreme – at 23:48 --- Here’s my edumacated guess on that: when you click on a thread to read it, the server only has to look through the file structure once to find the thread you requested, adjust for any changes since you were last there, and present it to your browser.
But when you go back to the main discussion page, the server has to present your browser with possibly multiple changes in the thread listings because several people may have written to several different threads in the time you were on one thread, and then present them all to you in order. So, the server has to look through the file listing more than one time to find those threads (files) that have had changes made to them.
Did that sound professional, or should I stick with my day job?
Not bad. The discussion forum page uses the pagelist directive which reads every file in the Forum group, sorts them appropriately and then builds the page to send to the browser. Even the truncated version, the one that only shows the most recent 250 threads, still has to read all 2,000+ threads in order to sort them and determine which ones to display. It’s a bit faster, though, because it’s not formatting and sending as much info to the browser as the full topic listing. Bronco Bill’s point — that one or more pages can change while you’re on a particular thread — is relevant in that the topic list has to be rebuilt each time you request it. There’s no point in caching it since it changes so frequently. That’s a factor on any interactive website. Caching works great when content is static but when it’s dynamic, not so much.
The Last 50 Changes page should load faster than the forum listing which is one of the reasons I rely on it more than on the forum list.
Bronco Bill, I haven’t been bumping too much lately. I will try to help out more.
;-) ‘sokay. ‘ppreciate it…
Thanks BB and pogge for the explanations.
My next question: Why is the discussion page slowing down compared to the past? Is it because of more activity on the site?
Many many more threads in total…pogge says somewhere up around 2200. That, of course, includes all the closed threads, but they’re still there….
Hi team
I have not completed news summaries for the past 2 nights for 2 reasons - (i)it is the weekend here and I thought I would take some time out, and (ii) the discussion has made the threads so lengthy, it takes a considerable amount of time to sort out which is current news. Please, the latter is not a complaint - just a reality for the wheat sorting process (smiling). I will start again doing the summaries tomorrow.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend
Pogge, Spam alert on Increaded Cytokine Response thread. The author’s box has disappeared! Calton is the last name to appear.
Thanks! Attended to.
Hi DemFromCt. I hope you had a good holiday…we missed you around here.
Ocean2 on the PPF thread asked me for an article on the H7 outbreak in the Netherlands. Melanie gave it too me a few months ago. I wondered if you might have the same article or another one that describes things for Ocean2.
I believe that she/he actually lives in the Netherlands…Thanks.
here are a few links:
Human Cases of Avian Influenza A (H7N7) Infection - The Netherlands, 2003
PS it’s good to be back. Have you been behaving, Tom? ;-)
DemFromCt. Thanks.
I have been a vision of composure and good taste…but I think you need to reign in anon 22 and Monotreme…the worst case scenario - denial as an adjustement reaction is frankly, getting out of hand.
Intervet’s bird flu site has two pdf reports on the page linked below. www.avian-influenza.com/Recent_Outbreaks/NL_Belg_Germany_2003.asp
1). RIVM final report on the public health consequences of the epidemic.
2). Chronology of the outbreak in The Netherlands, Belgium and Germany
starting 20 February 2003
What is going on with the Increased Cytokine Production thread?
Thought it was closed yesterday? For spam.
Pogge, did you drop a jar of marbles on the keyboard?
Thanks Dem, for the links to the sites. As for Sonny, I honestly have my doubts about clicking on anything you may recommend. Last time I called Spam alert I remember seeing your name somewhere there- I remember it because I had a brother named Sonny. I haven’t seen you post here since then. Call it what you will, I already have enough trouble, thank you.
Ocean2 – at 13:35 ?possible defekt?
Mr White42, I don’t know- I just go by my intuition. There are wierd things happening with that thread- no author’s box? Did anon-22 really close that thread, 2 hours or so before I alerted the mods? I didm’t see her message there, I only saw the name calton- reminded my of an old aquantance named colten. So I clicked on it and saw the spam. Now, spam can’t hurt my computer but clicking on any old link can!!! And anything that makes the thread longer slows down the wiki.
Mods, is anything I am doing messing up the wiki please let me know ASAP!!
I don’t think it’s you dude. we are under an attack. german based?
This ‘dude’ ia s woman!! <grin>
Ocean2 at 13:35
Well? I’m new here but Thats fine with me. what dose it meen? “you called spam alert” “Last time I called Spam alert I remember seeing your name somewhere there.”
It a shame this wiki software is.
Sorry O2.Spam makes me jump to conclusions. I am going to dig a radish patch.
Closing a thread doesn’t stop the spambots. And it’s not unusual to see the same thread targetted repeatedly. The link for a particular thread gets put into a script that’s executed by infected systems all over the internet.
The latest round of spam is all on Belgian domains. They seem to have lost control of their internet registry.
Mr White42- I love your sense of humour.
Sonny, Two things. You’re not ‘new’ here; you, or someone else, has been posting several times under that name since february. Secondly, your english used to be much better. “It a shame this wiki software is”? Meaningless. Is this what you want to contribute to this site? Spam.
Folks, don’t forget that with as many people as log onto FluWiki, there is always a possibility that someone may come up with a similar handle to one that we’ve seen before. Maybe not malicious at all, but a simple name that popped into that person’s head. Another hand raised for participant registration…
The link in Sonny – at 12:54′s post doesn’t seemm to be malicious. I just checked it out off-line…only problem is that the reports are 3 1/2 years old…
Bronco Bill – at 15:06 I appreciate you checking that out and putting things into perpective. I was myself a bit surprised by my strong response. Even so, I’ll read the link on a public computer; I’ll never deny my own intuition.
Hi Bronco Bill.
The reason the Info I linked to is three years old is, because, thats when the H7N7 2003 outbreak occured. As per “Tom’s DMV at 11:15″ request.
For $200 and $30/YR you could have be running vBullitin/jefsoft. <scratches head>
Okay, Sonny. Thanks. You should have addressed your post at Sonny – at 12:54 directly to Tom DVM, so the rest of us didn’t think it was just a link dump onto the thread.
Ocean2 – at 14:37
Radish patch completed and nearly stone-free. Next to transplant the little ones in the patch. You thought I was kidding?
“It a shame this wiki software is”? ~Somethhing wicked this way comes~
Next to transplant the little ones in the patch
Mr White42---Why in the world would you want to plant your kids in the garden?? ;-) lol…
BB
Hahaha. MrW42. Nice boring holiday in Switzerland with nice Fendant. Foul weather in Italy and Spain, hence Switzerland. I’m off to bed now, working tomorrow, and a nice lunch with a WHO friend…
I like number 5
Bronco Bill. Since Frenchie Girl has gone to bed…what is a Fendant.
Tom DVM, Fendant is good stuff indeed, tho’ BB might prefer the red:-)
learn more here… http://www.twis.info/grape.php?ID=322&select=all
MaMa Thanks…
…and by the way Hi, its good to hear from you again…I hope you are well and your busy summer is going well as well (that’s a lot of wells).
I would have said this on the news thread but were not supposed to do that anymore…Oh Well…we will need a thread for that in the Fall.
Tom DVM – at 20:22 --- LOL!! I always thought it was a car part! I dunno…
Tom DVM— Found it:
Fendant
Very old grape variety for white wine. Some people say that this grape occurs on old paintings in Luxor, Egypt. It is said that there are still vineyards in Egypt with this variety. Today, however, this grape is known better as the Swiss Fendant. In the Alsace the plantings of this grape are decreasing. The wines are mild, lightly fruity and sometimes have some carbonic acid.
COMMENT: KEWL! Carbonic acid! Wine soda!
BB. I thought it was a new name for ‘male companion’. You know the French…just kiddin!! /;0)
Tom DVM, you’re welcome(aren’t search engines fantastic!)
Hi back! All’s well here and I hope the same can be said for youand yours…and no worries, you can never have too many wells,whether they’re for water or for wishes:-)
Is there a new ‘protocol’ for the news thread? I haven’t been around much and don’t want to do anything out of line if I can help it. I’m guessing we’re not to make personal comments that will put the news thread off-topic?
Is there a new ‘protocol’ for the news thread?
Well, MaMa, kinda sorta. We took a vote, and nobody won, so we decided to label posts on the News thread either with NEWS or COMMENT, so as not to confuse the folks who skim over the news thread rather quickly. So, if you post a news article, lead off with NEWS, and if you’re just making a comment on a previous article, lead off with COMMENT.
I still like my idea of NEWS and COMMENT, but you can use whatever color you wish. Ecept Yellow. ;-)
Melanie – at 19:30 (aug 18) “In the event of pandemic, we are working to move the wiki to more robust hosting, like the Google or Amazon servers.”
Its Sunday night, and the forum is slow as molasses with only one suspected cluster of less than 20 people. What’s going to happen here if suddenly there are 300 suspected cases in several places around the world? That is too late to hook up to a different host. This is a wonderful community on which many people depend for accurate and current information and evaluation. Yet I suspect many of us rightly fear you will not be functional nor available when we really need you.
If I am interpreting Melanie’s words above correctly, why wait till a pandemic starts before you go to a new server? It seems as if one is needed now.
BB at 22:12, thanks for the info. That must have been a very interesting discussion, I’m sorry I missed it:-)
Mosaic – at 23:56 --- $$$$
Around 9 central time, I couldn’t get on for about 30+ minutes.
thanks for all you do!
Is there a site meter showing indicating activity on fluwikie?
Bronco Bill – at 00:03 Mosaic – at 23:56 --- $$$$
I understand its money, but what happened to the non-profit angle so people could help?
I’m sorry if I sound ungrateful, but you all built it, and we came. What next?
Jumping Jack Flash – at 00:04 --- On the left side bar at the bottom of the menu, click on the little rainbow square. That’s the site meter.
Mosaic – at 00:17 --- You need to take that up with the Mods. I just work here… ;-)
KimT – at 00:03 --- Just got work from pogge. He checked the server out from top to bottom~~no issues there. With various regions seeming to be slow, at this point it may be some of the ISPs having slow-downs. Sorry, I don’t have a better answer, but I too am having some slowdown issues on the Left Coast. It’s odd…sometimes the Forum just seems to die, and 1/2 an hour later, it’s screaming again. Don’t know just yet…
KimT – at 00:03 --- Just got word from pogge. He checked the server out from top to bottom~~no issues there. With various regions seeming to be slow, at this point it may be some of the ISPs having slow-downs. Sorry, I don’t have a better answer, but I too am having some slowdown issues on the Left Coast. It’s odd…sometimes the Forum just seems to die, and 1/2 an hour later, it’s screaming again. Don’t know just yet…
Yes, we’re a non-profit now. You can send a check to Box 195, 1096 W. Broad Street, Falls Church, Virginia.
And make the check out to….? FluWiki?
Melanie — at 00:42 - can you set up a Paypal account please?
Tom DVM – at 20:43 — lol
Melanie – at 00:42 “Yes, we’re a non-profit now. You can send a check to Box 195, 1096 W. Broad Street, Falls Church, Virginia.”
Very glad to hear it. Is there a another place where this address is officially posted so we know for sure that this is the real Melanie, and the real address where to send funds?
Just wanting to be extra safe and sure….
Thanks for all you do.
Melanie – at 00:42 --- Suggestion: Maybe post the mailing address on the Main Page of the Wiki server (www.fluwikie.com), where only the Mods can edit the page.
BTW---my check is on it’s way!
I have put the news summary at the start of the new thread for Aug 21 - hope this is okay by you. If not then copy it to a summary page, close the news thread and start another one.
Cheers
There are known legal problems with PayPal. For the time being, make the check out to Flu Wiki.
Zip code?
A thought on the donations, for those of us from countries other than the US- would it be best to send a money order in US funds instead of a check?
Jefiner – at 08:50 Zip code?
Per USPS Web site, 1096 W. Broad Street, Falls Church, VA has a ZIP Code of 22046 - 4609.
Melanie – at 04:58 - Maybe it’s possible to arrange to send you a cheque in dollars, but to the order of whom - FluWiki? Otherwise, can your bank take cheques in Euros or Pound Sterling or Swiss Francs? Without charging you a huge commission?
how disappointing, flutopia.com is all about flutes
COMMENT: I had to post this somewhere.. so this is where
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