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Forum: Flu Prep XXII

18 September 2006

Bronco Bill – at 17:06

Continued from here

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 18:00

wow. XXII — that’s pretty impressive! OK, I just stubbed my toe somethin’ awful this afternoon (I’m getting treated with dinner at Logan’s because of it, even if I have to HOP into the place!). I what do you DO for a really badly stubbed toe? I’ve had ‘em hurt for awhile then get better, but this one’s turning colors & doesn’t want to bend. Should I try to wrap it in a bandage? I guess that makes my latest flu prep learning some first aid! Seriously, my husband and I have both been very lucky all our lives to not have much happen to us…..I’m dreading having things like this go wrong & not know the simpliest thing about fixing it. I guess if we’d had kids, I’d be a pro, but alas, our cats don’t stubb their toes!

silversage – at 18:30

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 18:00

Done that, been there. I’ve jammed my littlest toe on a doorframe(OK more than once) and sometimes it just flops over. I just taped it to the next toe, sometimes with a cotton ball in between if it’s more comfortable. Last March it was my middle toe, but I heard it snap so I knew it was broken! I just taped two of them together for a couple of months until it felt better. Don’t tape it too tight, it has to be comfortable when you stand up. I just left it on until the tape got so ugly I had to change it, :-) Have fun at dinner!!

Bronco Bill – at 18:38

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 18:00 --- A few years ago, my DW dropped a plastic..PLASTIC! mixing bowl on her big toe. We wrapped it, but after a couple of days, she couln’t even walk on it. Took her to the doctor, got it x-rayed—turns out it was a fractured bone.

Go have it checked. After dinner, of course…

Oremus – at 19:00

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 16:56

Oremus – at 15:37 do you REALLY mean any kind of cereal….like Lucky Charms or Cocoa Puffs, or even Kashi (looks like tiny pieces of firewood) good-for-you cereals for grown-ups that want lots of fiber????

Personally I like cornflakes and rice krispies for the cookies, but it allows for a lot of creativity. Sometimes I throw in a cup of raisins or leave the nuts out if someone has allergies.

Texas Rose – at 19:17

I dehydrated ground beef today. Boy. Talk about killing a day. LOL

Watching in Texas – at 19:36

I’m-workin-on-it: I made the no-bake cookies and they turned out great. I used butter flavored Crisco instead of butter. I did use the peanut butter and since my kids are not all that crazy about nuts, I left them out and put in a little more oatmeal. Now, in a true taste test I suppose I should make another batch with butter or margarine to see if there is any difference. But, these are quite tasty, so we’re just going with these.

Hope your toe is better. IMHO, and in my experience with broken toes, if they turned lovely shades of black, blue and/or green, mine were always broken. Unless it is your big toe, there is really nothing a doctor can do except wrap it with another toe to keep it still. If it is your big toe, you can wear one of those lovely big shoes;-)

EOD – at 19:58

Just finished canning 28 quarts of grape juice, boy will that be tasty :) It actually comes out as a concentrate that you mix with equal parts water, or we like club soda, so 14 gallons when reconstituted.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 20:05

Well, it’s 6:3opm & I’m home, full of filet (thank god we’re not concerned about mad cow this week) and Roadhouse Texas Tea (hehe), and stretched out on the couch with 2 cats and my purple toe!! I guess it’s not broken ‘cause I’m not still screaming, but it sure is sore and the thought of touching it makes my tummy quezey….that’s long island tea type spelling! I’ll live another day, then consider wrapping it to another toe — the thought of hitting it again would make me confess to ANYthing!

Green Mom – at 22:41

I’m working on it-

Oh dear, I bet you have a broken toe-Ive broken a couple of mine and the signs are-discoleration-those lovely shades! and not being able to move it, plus I always feel a little queasy when I break a bone. I just tape the toes together. Take some ibuprophen for pain/inflamation, and try to stay off it if possible. Hope it feels better soon-ouch!

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 22:49

Thanka…took TylonbalPM so the covers won’t hurt it. just waitong to fall asleep now,

Green Mom – at 22:54

Posie at 11:53 Ive checked out freecycle-I think it works better in a more populated area, still, you never know what you might pick up and it sounds like you got some great stuff! cool.

Kathy in Florida- I LOVE the History Channel-I get their listings and “This Day in History” newsletter on my e-mail. I use it a lot for homeschooling. I use Discovery/Animal planet more for supplimental stuff.

For the no-bake cookies-I use crunchy peanut butter and leave out the nuts. Its awfully good with added coconut.

no name – at 22:55

IWOI

Broken toe remedy:

Tear paper grocery sack in strips. Heat Vinegar in sauce pan, I use apple cidar vinegar but any kind will do. Put paper strips in vinager and saturate.

Wrap strips around broken toe and rest of the foot. Cover with a couple of plastic sacks and leave on as long as possible. Repeat as necessary.

I’ve broken many toes and this worked for me on several occasions.

One time when checking in for a ski week, I had this mess on my foot. Front desk attendent ask what was going on…told her “broken toe” and I wanted to ski the next day. She looked in amazement/interest and said she had just broken her toe, I gave her the remedy list above, the next morning when I was leaving to ski with my broken toe…she came to the breakfast area and thanked me because she had tried it and gotten relief. So I know it’s worked for one other person as well.

A side benefit is you will have really soft skin on one foot!

19 September 2006

Lorelle – at 00:15

Kathy in FL, I’m always amazed at your many contributions, and we all surely do need some here and now time, to get healthy. I haven’t been around for awhile, but did get some therapy for a crooked neck (too much time at the computer, among other things). I love these posts and the positive attitude. I miss country and people who actually DO things besides play video games- been in the city too long.

I finally went to the basement to check expiration dates. Caught a few cans just in time. The ancient grains (millet, amaranth, etc.)I’ve been meaning to use and experiment with are still waiting patiently in white buckets. I feel prepared except for cooking fuel. We have a little back packer’s stove but I can’t find denatured alcohol. Months ago Eccles said to find it in an auto store. I don’t drive, so that’s hard to get to. Other option is to pay more and get it in a paint store. It would be stupid to wind up with buckets of raw food that can’t be cooked. How many bean sprouts, wheat sprouts, etc. can a family tolerate? ;} Must do soon.

I made a batch of yogurt with powdered milk and blended some up with frozen peaches and honey. Yummy! Frozen yogurt in an instant. Started another batch of sauerkraut. It goes well with sausage, or any kind of pork. It’s also reputed to be good against the flu. Im using my sourdough to make pita breads. The rest of the family still prefers square white bread slices, but they’ll eat the whole wheat pita if that’s all there is. It is pretty quick to roll them out into circles and cook in an iron pan on both sides until they puff up. Doing these simple things makes me feel grounded and able to cope with what may come. Thanks you guys for keeping things going here!

Malachi – at 00:30

EOD….Do you have a recipe for the grape juice?I made it once years ago and I remember it being really easy,Like 2 cups grapes to 3/4 cup sugar and fill quarts w/ water…Hot bath?Thanks….

Chesapeake – at 06:27

Lorelle- Denatured alcohol is used by boaters as a solvent for shellac, try a Marine supply store.

Hillbilly Bill – at 08:06

No-Bake Cookie report:

I also made a batch of cookies, using margarine powder from Provident Pantry. When reconstituted, this product is practically indistinguishable from Kathy in Fl margarine substitute recipe. I had trouble grading the sucess of the recipe after just one cookie. A second cookie helped the scoring, but it was only after the third cookie that I could clearly make the determination that the ingredients produced a delicious product. These field tests are rough, but somebody has to push the frontiers of prepping forward.

Seriously, I am making sure I have plenty of these ingredients on hand. I can see something this easy to make as being a real mood lifter during SIP, not to mention it is filling and satisfying.

Watching in Texas – at 08:15

Hillbilly Bill - ah yes, I too had some difficulty with a just one cookie test:-)

I wonder if you could omit the cocoa, use 1 cup of brown sugar and 1 cup of white sugar, and maybe throw in some butterscotch chips? Hmmmm…..sounds like another taste test in the works!

Hillbilly Bill – at 08:24

Watching in Texas – at 08:15

Hmmm….Interesting idea! I see that a LOT of research is needed in this area.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 12:12

I had 3 cookies for breakfast this morning — I figured it would help my toe……..I’m going to make more cookies this afternoon!

no name – at 22:55 VINEGAR???? Ok, I’ll try it! Heck, I’ll try anything! The swelling was down some this AM, but it’s sooooo very sore & maybe not broken since it moves on it’s own some, but it sure doesn’t like it at ALL!

Cinda – at 13:05

Hey all, I’ve been on a motorcycle trip for 2 weeks so have a lot of catching up to do- but wanted to share some bad news with people who will understand why it really is so terrible.

 We came home to a freezer that seems to be stuck in some sort of defrost mode and about $1000.00 of ruined meat,cheeses, garden veggies, soups, stocks and gravies. I had about a years worth in there. Was slowly canning some- but not enough and not fast enough as it turns out. This is a brand new (3 months old) freezer mind you- Sears is getting an earfull. My 20 year old upright has never failed me- it’s a pain to defrost- but at least it’s relaiable. 

I cried at my husband and daughter because not only was it a lot of $$ and more importantly- a lot of meat that would see us through a long bad stretch (plus hubby ‘s a builder and there’s not a lot of work in the winter- it got us through last winter) but that represented a hell of a lot of work. I really spent a lot of time shopping for the best prices on quality product and did all the cutting and repackaging- boned out over 100lbs of split chicken breast and made the stocks, soups, and gravies with the bones- & grew the veggies. They understand completely- but no one else does. Yes they understand it’s a bad financial loss- but it’s so much more to me. It feels like there’s a big hole in my world. Does that make sense to anyone else?

Kathy in FL – at 13:08

Cinda – at 13:05

Oh girl, do I feel your pain. Had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago and let me tell you, that is the point that I stopped relying on freezer space for long term stocking. My mom has 2 freezers and is very passionate about freezing being easier than canning … she grew up on a farm … but I tell you, I will take canned over frozen most of the time any more.

Ouch on the money. Wish I had the right kind of bandaid to share, but nothing seems to heal that kind of wound except time.

Kathy in FL – at 13:10

Lorelle – at 00:15

I pick my denatured alcohol up in the painting department at wallyworld. Its the only thing that will take off certain kinds of paints … and my hubby uses it for cleaning stuff. Comes in a blue metal canister that holds about a quart or so for about 5 bucks (US). Hope this helps.

Cinda – at 13:13

I had ben trying to can the meats because of just this problem- and thinking about losing power eventually. But like your Mom- it’s so easy and fast to freeze it- FT job, 1 hr each way commute, regular household duties- leaves little time for canning- It’s a lesson I didn’t need to learn because it was always in the back of my mind that the freezer isn’t going to last if the power goes out- or if it breaks while you’re not home. Thankfully- the old freezer with the milk bread and icecream ( cause we can live on icecream for a while right?! :) ) is still humming along.

Watching in Texas – at 13:15

Cinda - If your freezer was only three months old and it malfunctioned, causing all your food to be ruined…..shouldn’t Sears be getting more than an ear full? Perhaps they should be reimbursing you for the lost food? Common sense holds that since you purchased a “freezer” and in good faith, put your food into said “freezer” to “freeze” and said “freezer” did not freeze said food…..then the manufacturer of the item would be liable for the contents that you lost due to the freezer not freezing. Obviously, common sense and what is right and/or what actually happens are not usually the same thing, but it might not hurt to make a few phone calls or write a few letters and see what happens. Oh, and as someone who has made the mistake of giving up way too easily before - ask to speak to a supervisor, then to a manager and keep working your way up. I am so sorry this happened to you. I do indeed understand how such a loss could be a loss on several levels, not just a money issue at all.

Hang in there and let us know what happens.

WIT

Hillbilly Bill – at 13:18

Lorelle – at 00:15

A good fuel for the backpacking stove is a product called HEET. It is an additive to prevent moisture from collecting in your automobile tank. It is considerable cheaper than denatured alcohol. You should be able to find it in any store that sells even just a little bit of automotive supplies. There are two different varieties, isopropyl alcohol (red bottle) and methanol (yellow bottle). The yellow bottle works best.

Hillbilly Bill – at 13:20

Link for above

Cinda – at 13:27

WIT- you can count on it. I’m like a terrier, once I get my teeth into something I shake it to death.

Sears is coming out tomorrow and we took pictures. Shelf by shelf and the door, and the floor. It’s more than just the food. It leaked all over the carpet, right through the pad and seaped into the concrete, and got up into the particle board of the pantry cabinet next to it and even into the wallboard behind it and on the one side. I’m asking for reimbursment for the food, and the carpet and it’s instalation, the cabinet, and the hours it will take hubby to seal the concrete and replace the wallboard and paint.

Don’t worry- I’ll fight with them till they pay me just to make me go away!! Letters to the editor- and the internet is a wonderful way to spread news of poor treatment.

But that can’t replace the work and thought and planning that went into getting it and preparing it and the love for family that it was done for. I’m just so sad about that. Silly I know- but thats how I feel. Thanks to you guys for your support- I knew the people on the Wiki would unbderstand

Watching in Texas – at 13:32

Cinda - what a thing to come back to after vacation!! And, no, I don’t think you are being silly at all. Keep us posted.

nopower – at 13:34

I made a Pepsi can stove (http://tinyurl.com/nrvas) today and tried it out. I tried heating 4 cups of water in an old pot. It got to the point of starting to boil, but wouldn’t boil. I was using Perlite and Denatured Alcohol from the local hardware store.

I’m going to experiment with different designs and maybe try two or three at a time to boil that much water.

I’m also putting up new gutters since my old ones came down during the last major hurricane and I hadn’t got around to putting them back up. We’ve been getting a ton of rain lately so I want to be able to capture it if I need to.

NauticalManat 13:51

Cinda

What an awful experience, and I can understand that it is more than the monetary loss, it is all your planning and hard work. I have a very small freezer on the bottom of my fridge and thought about getting a bigger one for the basement, but then I thought what if the power does go out for extended perios, what then? No generator back up, and an inverter would probably only be good until the gas in our cars ran out. Difficult to guess at what will happen to power, but am encouraged that TPTB, or at least the electric companies, seem to be planning for a Pandemic and worst case scenario. Although I do have a lot of stuff in my small freezer, decided to go with other options, the canned goods, some MRE’s, and the FD and dehydrated foods, not to mention the beans, rice, pasta that we all seem to have. Researching the inverter, that might be enough to run a freezer a couple of hours twice a day for some short outages. Keep us informed as to how you make out with Sears. That would seem to be rare these days that a major appliance would give out like that after such a short time. Where was it made? Good Luck and see you on the MA thread sometime.

Hillbilly Bill – at 14:16

nopower – at 13:34

Here is a more involved design that might give you better results. I have not tried this one, it seemed like a lot of work, but it sure looks neat.

Cinda – at 14:33

Nautical Man- I would think the same thing but hubby’s cousin said he was told sometimes those freezers get stuck in a defrost mode and that could be what happened. The walls were hot when we were cleaning it out. And WIT is right- in good faith I depended on their product to do what it is supposed to do. It didn’t and they need to take care of that.

 Because hubby is a builder- we have a nice new generator that you can just plug things into and he has the proper cords and such for heavy loads like a freezer of fridge would take, and we always keep gas-so we could run a freezer for quite some time- long enough for me to can it all on the propane burner/stove/thing hubby bought me for that purpose. Wouldn’t want to waste the gas keeping a freezer going when I could can and have long term storage. But now I’ll be rethinking my time and making a place on the weekends to squeeze in more canning. My freezer is mostly for taking advantage of really good deals and making sure we have decent food to eat in the winter - as well as for the future possible disasters. I’m hoping to just get reimbursed for the lost food and such and to return the bad freezer and get our $ back. The rotten blood and all that nasty stuff got into places we can’t get to to clean so it smells like something crawled up in there and died, and also I would never trust the thing again.

On a good note- we had to empty the pantry cabinets that were next to the freezer to take up the rug and with what’s in the upstairs pantry -I have A LOT more food than I thought I did. So that felt pretty good. We wouldn’t Starve for quite a while.

I’ll be using some of the milk I have in the old frezer to make room for the roasting chickens that are on sale .79lb next week or the week after. Got to start again- I don’t want to use my canned meats unless I have to.

I haven’t even looked at the MA thread- I’m so far behind on reading what I’ve missed the past 2 weeks. I’ll catch up though!

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 14:36

Cinda, I do understand…..’fixing’ food is not just careful economical buying, and efficient storage, it involves chosing the best that your family likes, dreaming of making the soups and stews and burgers, etc, that will make your family smile, it’s about the ‘art’ of having meat to can when it’s thawed, it’s about the love of the craft of meal-making and the love of your family. Even though frozen food is not a living creature, it takes care and attention as if it were a family pet — you keep track of how it’s doing, you know you can count on it, etc., so when you ‘lose’ the food, you’re losing not only the food, but the hopes and dreams of all the good things you had invested in that food. Reason enough to feel like you have a hole in your heart — a lot of your hopes and dreams just melted onto the floor!

Cinda – at 14:48

WIT- nothing to do with Flu- but do I recall that you and your Husband have motorcycles- Harleys I think? We just took our Kawi Nomad- a cruiser- 3400 miles all around and down to the Smokey mountains and back up through the Adirondacks. I’ve traveled all over this country by car and RV- there is no comparison to doing it on a bike.

Jane – at 14:50

Cinda, I’m so sorry you have to deal with this. Hope it cleans up well. Will you have to saw out some soaked wood? ouch, all the work to come, as well as all the work you’ve already done.

Jane – at 15:01

Finally found some refillable liquid candles-at Michael’s craft store. I bought 2 sets, so have 4 triangular glass “candles” of the same height that I can group into a 4-wick cook- (or at least heating) stove. The only thing is, they have no covers, so I don’t know how much evaporation will take place in between uses. That’s the problem with testing these and my lanterns and kerosene stove-once filled, then what? Years ago I used a lantern once and left it sitting for years, and the wick got hard and the knob won’t turn, so I can’t wind it out to replace it.

There were other styles of candles, but some of them had no wicks in their boxes. I’m glad I checked before buying. The wicks are fiberglass, so not easily bought locally.

Cinda – at 15:05

Jane- just some of the molding and wall board about 3 inches up behind the molding. So far nothing we’ve tried can get the smell out of the concrete- even bleach. We’re also requesting Sears pay lost wages for the hours hubby has to spend doing that- since he’s not out doing his own job.

Cinda – at 15:09

Jane- check Lehmans for the wicks- they have all kinds of wicks.

EOD – at 18:47

Malachi – at 00:30 I use a steamer specifically made for extracting juice from fruits. It holds 8 quarts of fruit in a batch which will make between 2 & 3 cups of juice per quart depending on the fruit used. With grapes it takes 8 quarts of fruit to make 5 quarts of juice. Depending upon the sweetness of the fruit you use between 1/4 to 1/2 cup sugar per quart of fruit - for this years grapes I used 3 1/2 cups of sugar per 8 quarts of grapes - they were a bit tart. To add the sugar you just pour it over the fruit before starting the steamer. Once you set it on the stove and your water comes to a boil & steam appears above the fruit you put on the cover and ‘cook’ for 60 minutes, then drain off the juice through a tiny spigot right into the canning jars.

The first link will show you the aluminum model I own, the 2nd link is to a stainless steel model. There is a big difference in price but I have had mine for 15 years now with no problems, no wearing out of parts etc.

http://tinyurl.com/kwm67

http://tinyurl.com/e57ef

DennisCat 18:58

Keep your eye out for after Halloween sales. Notice some places sale liquid candles for pumpkins.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 19:37

Ok, years ago (pre Y2k) I purchased oil lamps & extra wicks - like dozens of extra wicks - and after Y2k was a bust, I gave away most if not all of my wicks. But I’ve realized that I used these lamps frequently — every power outage — so I want more wicks now & can’t find them! Where do they sell these wicks these days?????

mj – at 19:45

Lehman’s has all kinds of wicks. Cracker Barrel Restaurant has wicks. Farm stores have wicks. Wally world has some.

Kim – at 21:04

Cinda, try a product called “OdoBan”, available at Sam’s Club and possibly other places, to get rid of the smell. It’s about $10 for a gallon of concentrate. I’ve used this stuff for several years to eliminate the smell of tobacco smoke, and recently had my boss use some in her office when some mice died in there. It works pretty well, at least worth a try.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 21:21

My Wallyworld doesn’t even have the oil lamps! Unless they are somewhere other than camping but I’ve covered every section at one time or another. I WILL check Cracker Barrell near me & didn’t even think about the farm stores — thanks!!!

LauraBat 21:29

Picked up a few things for the kids for x-mas today. Wasn’t planning on it but I was running regular errands and saw a few things that I had in mind for them anyway. This way, not only did I get a good price, but I won’t have to get them later, and if TSHTF soon they’ll have something to open.

While in Stop & Shop today (big East Coast chain) I heard on the PA system an annoucement about how long canned items last - something like 2–3 years for “acidic” items, like fruits, and 3–5 for things like “green beans.” Granted, I never pay attention to those background announcements since I’m usally just trying to survive a grocery run with a very active toddler, but I’ve never heard one like that before.

HillBilly Bill – at 21:32

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 21:21

I searched all over the camping section in Wally World for oil lamps and finally in frustration asked an “associate”. Believe it or not, they keep them with the scented candles in the Household section. Lamp oil and spare wicks should be right there with them.

DennisCat 21:45

HillBilly Bill – at 21:32 oil lamps, I also got some of those small liquid candle things there as well. They are good for 30 hours (??). But the point is that I can put them under the bed with the tuna cans or give them away in care buckets.

Calandriel – at 22:24

Cinda - there is a product that that I’ve used to control smells - it is miraculous. All natural ingredients, a human can even eat it without harm, removes ALL odors. Don’t believe me - read up on it at this website:

www.fresh-wave.com

better yet, read about the patented active ingredient, Ecosorb, from OMI on this website:

http://omi-industries.com/

IMPORTANT! This product does not remove mold or mold spores!!! It DOES remove ALL mold ODORS, however. I was given a free sample of this product, and was amazed at the results. I plan to purchase a supply to have on hand if/when a pandemic strikes. It will mask the odor of cooking food, an indoor camping toilet, and EVEN a decomposing body. This product renders odor molecules unavailable to the olfactory receptors. It is not like any air freshener on the market in supermarkets. This product makes ALL the odors in the air unavailable to your nose [olfactory receptors.} Waste treatment facilities, mortuary firms, restaurants & hotels use this product to neutralize offending odors. READ the Ecosorb info and form your own opinion. The key to a good result with this product is good air flow - if the air is not circulating, the odor will only be eliminated within about 8–10 feet of the jar, because the essences can only reach so far if there is no breeze. This product took the fish smell from my kitchen, the mold smell from my condo basement and the “cat” smell from the litter box. I have not found any comparable solution to an odor problem anywhere.

20 September 2006

EnoughAlreadyat 01:26

Where is the best place to buy those 6 gallon buckets of flour? One place has them for ~$16 (all purpose)… that’s just way cheaper than anywhere else I have seen. Why? Is there some big difference in the flour? Thanks, in advance.

Oremus – at 02:34

EnoughAlready – at 01:26

My Dunkin Donuts sells them used, for 3 bucks.

Just wash the icing out.

Oremus – at 02:35

sorry you were talking about buying flour, not buckets.

EnoughAlreadyat 03:03

LOL! Yes! But… thanks all the same! :)

My dairy queen sells the buckets for $1.50. I haven’t bought mylon (or whatever it is called) bags… which I know I am gonna have to do. But for $16, it might be worth buying it already done for me. I just don’t get why there is such a drastic difference in price.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 08:01

HillBilly Bill – at 21:32 to I’m-workin’-on-it – at 21:21 I searched all over the camping section in Wally World for oil lamps and finally in frustration asked an “associate”. Believe it or not, they keep them with the scented candles in the Household section. Lamp oil and spare wicks should be right there with them.

For someone who thinks outside the box so often, I’ve sure missed the boat on this — I’m going there this AM for a final birthday present for DH so I’ll check the candle department — wonder why that didn’t occur to me?? sigh. Prepping is hard — it’s all these little places where you stumble & it costs you time and extra trips, etc. sigh.

nopower – at 09:31

Thanks for the stove link BB.

AVanartsat 10:48

Just for the record, lanterns may be in the camping section, but lamps are always in housewares. I don’t see where the confusion comes from.

Hillbilly Bill – at 11:00

AVanarts – at 10:48

Personally I would prefer that all stores were organized into two sections:

Stuff I’m interested in.

and

Stuff I don’t want to look at.

That would eliminate any confusion on my part.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 11:43

Stuff I’m interested in.

and

Stuff I don’t want to look at.

Boy you’ve got THAT right!

Well, I’m a happy camper — I did find the wicks & the extra lamp parts so I’m well stocked now — cross THAT off the list! thanks everyone!

Diana – at 12:34

An anglican minister of my aquaintance is sheltering a friend of hers whose house burned to the ground as a consequence of a electrical wiring malfunction.Everything is gone, but she was fully insured with full replacement costs of her possessions. The ministers suggestion get an inventory of your belonging with photographs. Buy a waterproof and fireproof box to keep documents like your insurance in. The firemen poured 100.000 gallons of water on the blaze. The basement became a swimming pool. Luckily the woman had purchased a waterproof and fireproof box a few month prior to the blaze. So things are proceeding smoothly in this instance.

deborah – at 12:46

I wish I could find those big buckets of flour! I have never seen it in anything other than bags, which can be infested with wevils. The buckets would be a nice option, so if someone knows where to purchase these please let me know.

yes, I am aware I can purchase bagged flour and transfer it to buckets, but if I can purchase it already IN the buckets, it would save me several steps, as well as being far less likely to be bug-infested, not to mention less likely to be moldy or rancid from age.

Galt – at 12:50

deborah @ 12:46--re: flour in the superpails. You might look at www.aaoobfoods.com. They have the superpails (buckets with contents in mylar bag with oxygen absorber) for about $19 for flour or cornmeal (for 40 lbs) supposed to last 3 to 5 years. They also sell flour and cornmeal in #10 cans, good for much longer, but very pricey per pound. Shipping is pretty high, given weight, but gets proportionally better the more you buy. No association with this supplier (there are several on the net). Just have been looking around at prices for flour as well.

Hillbilly Bill – at 12:52

I went to Wally World on my lunch hour and picked up two more rechargeable Swiss Army lanterns, a wide mouth Stanley thermos, 6 liquid candles (thanks DennisC!), spare filters for our Brita pitcher and a double 12 volt outlet thingy for charging the lanterns from a battery. This is on top of a large load of groceries from Aldi’s last night. Prepping never really stops.

Watching in Texas – at 13:05

HB at 11:00 - HAHAHAHA!! Great idea:-)

Hillbilly Bill – at 13:08

Watching in Texas – at 13:05

do you think it would do any good to send that idea to Arkansas?

Watching in Texas – at 13:17

HB at 13:08 - mmmmm…..sounds like it might require O/T - I think they frown on that sort of thing;-)

Hillbilly Bill – at 13:49

Here is a good deal on Emergency candles. I have some of these and they are really nice. The glass jar is heavy and would be worth refilling if you are stocking candle-making supplies.

OK, I confess, I just ordered a case. Somebody make me stop. Please!

AVanartsat 14:06

Hillbilly Bill – at 11:00

Yeah, that would be nice wouldn’t it. :)

psyberdoc – at 16:47

Hillbilly Bill-

Just ordered a case myself…c-a-n-t r-e-s-i-s-t, m-u-s-t s-t-o-p…

NEMO – at 17:30

Spent a day during my headcold documenting our stuff with a digital camera. I could never in a hundred years remember what all we have. Since we have put a huge house of stuff in an old farm house, the insurance company would probably doubt us when we filed for everything even though we sure as shooting pay extra for the cost of contents three times what it normally would be for this price of house. While this isn’t really flu related, you never know. Civil unrest could result in fires, which might cover some of the replacement. Mostly though, it’s just general preparednessc for other types of disasters. I am documenting every book we own so I can replace them all, each antique cup and saucer, each CD and DVD. Those things add up to thousands and thousands in no time and I could never remember them all. I put the photos on a CD and have one for the safe deposit box and one to keep here at home in a fire safe. I just add a new one every now and then as I take a day or two to photograph more things. I still need to photograph all our tools. For the kitchen, I pretty much just opened up each cupboard and drawer and took pictures of what’s inside. Any specialty equipment like my canners, grinders and Bosch mixer I photographed separately.

NEMO – at 19:29

The new series Jericho is starting in half an hour (central time). It may bring up some very interesting prep thoughts. It’s about the small Kansas town of Jericho after a nuclear blast (in KC??). Have heard good things about it, should be interesting at the very least.

Closed and Continued - Bronco Bill – at 19:41

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