I check out Fluwiki’s Visits and Page Views at the end of every day.
I use it as an indicator. When major flu events are happening the visits and page views will spike upward. You can compare how fluwikians react to different events. It’s also a safety net because if you don’t have time to read all the threads and you see a spike then you can go to the forum and see where the action is.
I think that it would be nice to have this thread as a place to discuss this indicator.
For example: Saturdays are usually the slowest day for Fluwiki but this last Saturday was very busy. If you go back every seven days, you see a big dip on Saturdays but not this one. What caused this? Is there an event that I missed or did Fluwiki make the news somewhere?
cookies, above was me :)
we have been spreading the PFAW stuff around, so it might be that. I was not checking the referrals that day.
It was Olymom!
OK, the day has ended. Time to check the “Visits and Page Views”.
There were more people on today than in that last twelve days. Busy day! I don’t think it is event driven. I just think more people are finding Fluwiki.
What’s a visit? Is it a comment like this one? I like graphs.
From the Site Meter help page:
Pogge
Can you find out a persons identity or address when they make a visit?
No.
Fluwiki has an average of only 2584 visits per day. I’d feel safer if more people were here. I visit 10 times a day, if not more. So does that mean there is only 300 to 500 people here a day?
Where is the rest of the world?
your IP mostly dont change during a day, so you will be only listed as one visitor, even if you come in many times. So it means that 2584 computers are visiting every day. But may be lower due to the folks with dial up conections.
what does dial up connections have to do with it? Sorry, but I am computer ignorant!!!
Urdar-Norge – at 19:20
“your IP mostly dont change during a day, so you will be only listed as one visitor, even if you come in many times.”
Based on what pogge said, I thought that if I waited over 30 mins between pages views, I would be recorded as a new visit.
pogge – at 02:01 From the Site Meter help page:
“Site Meter defines a “visit” as a series of page views by one person with no more than 30 minutes in between page views.”
Even if Fluwiki had 2500 computers a day, it still would mean Fluwiki is a very small part of this world.
hello from upstate new york. just discovered this site. excellant! Can’t say I’m 100% convinced this will happen, but, I am keeping a close eye on what’s going on overseas. I know anything can and will happen. Being prepared is insurance for the unexpected. That’s just life. A good source for prepardness is BACKWOODS MAGAZINE. They also have a good article for why they think this will not happen.
I’m not far from the third largest military base, Fort Drum, and I just heard on our news that they are bringing in MORE nation guard. No explaination was given as to why, unless I missed it. I am about 30 miles from the Canadian boarder, and I’m not hearing any talk about closing boarders between the u.s and canada. It wasn’t closed even briefly during the SARS outbreak, and talk about being on pins and needles!. We have whooping cough going around in the neighboring town, and I heard that they shut down the elementary school.
I’m orginally from Texas, Greenville, so it was great to here from the Lone Star State. My mom works in the hospital in Greenville, and she really doesn’t know what the bird flu is, and the hospital has no plans in place for a pandemic. She just barely knew about SARS when it hit.
My trigger point will be when I see the numbers increasing from person to person overseas. When the clusters become more prevelant, and spreading, I figure we here in the U.S. have about a month or two, before we start seeing it inching closer to us. From the outbreak of SARS, until it reached Canadian soil, it was quick. Air travel will bring it in to us, once this takes off. But I am not going to get “gung ho” on this as I did with the Y2K. Every thing I read pointed to it definately happening. Our news paper said the avian flu would arrive in two years. How do they know? I’m going to keep stocking, as I have always done, having gone through the great ice storm of ‘98 (no power for 13 days and nights!), a microburst(whatever that is), a blizzard(my first), the great blackout that hit Canada too, in 04. It is imperative that we have the basics on hand! What a sad and helpless feeling when you are caught in a disaster, and have no way of taking care of your family. “What are we going to do?” is not something I want to ask my family should this flu pandemic hit.
What I like most about you folks, is that you are not trying to spread panic and fear. Spreading imformation, tips, and updates, is what I’m seeing. Thanks to all who are trying to stay calm, and rational, in a time of great uncertainty.
CORRECTION- the magazine is called BACKWOODS HOME MAGAZINE. Sorry for this.
Wow, Tuesday was a busy day. 2nd highest day during the last month.
Where can I find the stats on visits/etc. on the fluwikie main site (as opposed to the forum). Anyone know?
I looked at the site meter last week and saw three people from the Red Cross (same or different, I don’t know), hopefully they are talking about what they read here.
Welcome CottonTop.
pine ridge
Thanks. I am not seeing anything here from our Red Cross concerning the bird flu. The focus here is on terrorist attacks. People in this area are not concerned with the avian bird flu. With the Canadian border, Fort Drum, and a nuclear power plant, all just miles from us, they are worried more about a terorist threat, than a pandemic flu threat. Can’t say I blame them.
birdflubreakingnews.com might be of some use. They claim to update it every 10 minutes. However, this site is they best around!!
30 minuts is certainly corect if pogge said so :) A dial up mostly gets a new IP adr each time you conect, so it may be trackeds as multple visits. But with the 30 minute rule, this doesent matter.
I would not count the vistors as “the whole fluwiki comunity” I guess a large number of folks have been here during the time, done their preps and continued their life. Some just check the news, some uses it as a social comunity I guess. And remember that there is more flu comunities out there :)
spok at 01:10 -I’m not sure but, we are following a possibility of 3 different “clusters”. One each in East Java, West Java and N. Sumatra. This could attribute to the increase in traffic.
Welcome Cottontop. My best friend grew up in West Chazy (Chasy?). Her family is from up there, and there are many spots to cross over from Canada by back roads. I know they worry more about this. Her parents also went thru the Ice Storm of ‘98. The neighbors were taking one generator and passing it around each day to use for a couple of hours. All the trees were just snapped off. Please post whatever you can find through your travels, good to have you on board.
DemFromCT - at 09:30 - I thought Poggie was the only one privy to IP addresses? Apparently not.
commonground
Thanks. It’s great to be apart of this.
the 98 ice storm was just 10 nightmares rolled into one. Growing up in northeast texas as a kid, I say a few devestating ice storms, but as a kid their great. Not so when you have your own young kid, a terminally ill mother in law a bed ridden father in law, one generator between three households, and nothing but candles for a light source, and no phone! What my family gained in experience from that is valuable. What was really bad about that, is they told us not to WORRY, it’s just gonna rain folks. 6 pm that night their telling us to prepare for power outages, and by then it was way to bad to get out to the store. Sometimes it’s good to panic! Three days into that, and people where willing to trade their kids, wives, husbands, dogs, just for a manual can opener! People where calling the only radio station on the air, begging and pleading for candles, paper plates, toliet paper, wood, coffee, just basic things. We were all confined to our homes due to the “no travel ban”, and 5pm curfew. It was so weird seeing all the military trucks, and hearing nothing but the sound of generators at night. When I did get to venture out into town, the sight was unbelievable.
Anyhow, I sorta have a problem with “there’s nothing to worry about.” Just makes me feel uneasy.
I thought Poggie was the only one privy to IP addresses?
I’m the only one who can tie your IP address to the name you post under.
Poggie, can anyone tie my IP address to me personally? Just a general question. I mean other than officials like the Police, etc. Just the common person?
No. The most I can do is an IP lookup which would tell me who your Internet Service Provider is because each ISP is assigned a specific range of IP addresses to assign to their customers. I couldn’t go beyond that without the ISP’s cooperation and I would hope the ISP would demand a warrant before revealing that information. I’ve never had occasion to even contact an ISP and the only reason I’ve done the IP lookup is to try and block a spammer whose IP address varies within a narrow range. It’s just a way to try and confirm that the different addresses I’m looking at are actually the same person. (Or the same robot.)
And again, we’re not doing anything special here to collect information on anyone. This is the way the internet works. If you have privacy concerns (which is a valid issue), they apply to all the websites you visit.
Thanx Dem
Thanks pogge. I wasn’t thinking in terms of you or any administrators here. Just in terms of the general public. A curiousity thing. Half my problem - I’m always asking questions. Thanks again.
I like checking the site meter for how people get directed to Fluwiki…Very interesting the search terms people will enter into Google!
Scorsbee – at 12:38
I did try to look first but I couldn’t find the page that shows how people get directed here.
Where is that?
It’s the By Referrals link under the heading Recent Visitors. It shows the site that hosted the link people clicked on to come to this site. When it shows “Unknown” it’s because those visitors came directly by clicking on their Favorites/Bookmarks or actually typed the URL into the browser’s address bar.
pogge, about getting more info from the ISP address.
you can try: http://www.dnsstuff.com/
I find it intersting to see things like: Hoag Memorial Hospital,Thomas Jefferson University,USDA Office of Operations,Lamar University,Florida Atlantic University, popping up here. I guess you see that all the time. It is fascinating where our viewers come from.
DennisC:
Thanks. I’ve already used their companion site, dnsreport.com, on numerous occasions. I know about that site but I haven’t taken the time to play with it. It’s on that legendary List Of Things To Do. ;-)
If I want to do a quick lookup, Sam Spade can be handy.
Can Fluwiki handle the volume that is going to be generated by the PFAW?
I’ve just read-
“North country (upstate new york), could require over 188,000 doses of Tamiflu if an epidemic of avian flu broke out. The regions share of the current national supply of 2.3 million doses is only 4,500 doses. 2.79 million upstate new yorkers would be left with out treatment should this outbreak occur.” -senator Charles E. Schumer, 10/19/05
Is this tamiflu something you can just go to your doctor and get, or is it over the counter? I really haven’t paid that much attention to it.
cottontop – at 20:56
it’s rx only, and can be hard to get (it’s in demand).
spok – at 18:08
we’ll see.
the demand of tamiflu varies, last year it was stopped selling here in Norway, because of stockpiling in case of pandemic. So the authorithies said that it should be only for the sesonal flu patients. Half a year later there was no problem to get it, Now with a new flu sesion coming there will probably be problem agian. Many says it stupid to buy in case of pandemic bacause of shelf life, but kept in the frigde it will last years, and all the “old” tamiflu with dates like 2006–07 are probably sold long time ago, a lot of it ended up in the trash I´m afraid.. Be aware of fake medicines on the net.. And as far as we know, only as propfylactic its sure to work, and that is only for a certain period in the beginning of pan. But it demands to much pills. But yes, its in my prep, it was first thing on list 2 years ago.
would someone please explain to me why Tamiflu is the equivalent to the gold standard? Does it knock the symptoms, or does it knock the virus?
also- TomDVM are you saying that in order for this pandemic to occur, it will have to jump from “Pigs” to humans?
this may not be the right tread.. I belive no one, exept some governments claims that Tamiflu is golden.. In politics its function is like “fear control”. Many sitizens mistakingly belive its a vacsine, whitch it is no. My government has bought 4,5 million treatments (entire population) but the keyworkers will be using Amatadine as a prophylactic, if Amatadine resistance, they will quickly empty the Tamiflu stockpile, since prophylactis use is so fundamentaly hugher in number. Everyday, one pill, for weeks or months…
And there is the reports of resitance to tamiflu, and we know that people with birdflu stil dies in 50% of cases even with Tamiflu treatment.. (maybe to late to little??.)
It lovers the spread of virus in the body. You still get sick, but may survive if treatment is good enough, ( First 48 hours, probably 24..) If you survive you will be imune against the same version of the virus, but it may mutate many times (in waves), but I belive that if you have been infected, you will be safer, (just like the ordinary flu, who we all have been infected by in our life)
read the links in my last posting
also this link
good link.
Sounds as if Tamiflu was readily available, the expense would keep alot of people from getting it. Sad. Do we have to wait for a pandemic to hit to get it for free?!
Is it just my imagination, or has the cold season waited for the school bell to ring the first of september to invade us?!!! This is unreal! I have a virus with my name on it. Every year, the same one comes back to see me. Same symptoms, same thing. How bad it is varies from year to year. Thank god it’s mild this year. People around here are running scared to their doctors wanting antibotics, and getting it. I tough it out. If we are immune to a virus once we get it, why do we keep getting sick with the same thing from year to year??
cottontop – at 20:56 And your Dr, will no write you an Rx for it anyway, and buying off the iternet is really very very risky. See other posts on this.
NJ Jeeper-at 08:39
I’ve been reading “people are stockpiling Tamiflu”. How can they if it’s next to impossible to get?
How did we get from If you go back every seven days, you see a big dip on Saturdays but not this one. What caused this? to nine posts in a row on Tamiflu? Doesn’t Tamiflu have its own thread?
anonymous-at 09:09
sorry. the tamiflu is my fault. If there is one, I haven’t had the time to sort through all the threads. I’m a newbie. I get sidetracked reading a thread. Is there a tamiflu thread? I just hate jumping around. There ARE TOO MANY THREADS!
cottontop – at 09:27 Is there a tamiflu thread?
http://www.fluwikie2.com/pmwiki.php?n=Forum.TamifluForProphylaxisOrTreatment
Dennis in Colorado - at 10:05
Thanks. that’s what I needed.
Just so I can get my fluwikie etiquette, what exactly is the Forum used for?
Fluwikis Visits and Page Views:
Saturday is always the day with the lowest Visits and Page Views. The peak day is usually a Tuesday or Wednesday, unless something major happens after those two days.
This week the peak was on Tuesday. Unless something major happens, Tuesday will hold the record for the week.
Saturday was the low again for the week but it didn’t dip much. Looks like Fluwike has a very busy week ahead.
Yes, general trend is going up nice and steadily. Interesting.
the forum is for chatting, questions, conversation, sharing of info and/or research. the wiki side is for storage of information.
oh!
We are steady….people are concerned, otherwise it wouldn’t be steady. I wonder if after the Pandemic awareness week the general trend will be higher or stay the same? I love graphs.
!spok: todays one was a bit wild!
Is this because of Flu Pandemic Awareness Week, or because we had three cases in quick succession just recently?
As of June 2006 (FluWiki was 1 year old), the site had over a million visits, and over 4 1/2 million page views. In the 4 months since then, we’ve seen almost 572,000 visits and over 3.8 million page views!!!
I like to look at Alexa to see volume of site traffic:
Alexa even allows you to key in a second site (below the graph) to compare traffic of two sites.