If anyone knows where monotreme now posts, please advise on this thread.
Monotreme’s web site, provided by request. We are not responsible for content of other sites. -DemFromCT
This was on the ask questions of the mods thread.
“Monotreme – at 21:27 Hi everyone.
Just so everyone knows, I haven’t made a “Farewell, cruel forum” speech. I will be back every once in a while, as DemFromCT has indicated. I am working on my site which will include a blog and some web pages. I’ll send DemFromCT the URL when it’s done. It will be very rough at first, so don’t expect much. If it works at all, it’ll be a miracle.
I also want to make sure everyone knows that my problem is strictly with anon_22. I have nothing but the highest respect for the other moderators. I think FluWiki will continue to be great place for collaborative work on preparedness and will continue to recommend it to others.
I think anon_22 is highly intelligent and agree with her on many issues. However, I think our world-views are fundamentally incompatible. So it goes. With respect to the thread that started this, she and I disagree on what happened and why it happened. But I don’t want to waste any bandwidth on this subject here. I’ll have a place at my site where people can ask me questions on whatever occurs to them, immodestly called, “Ask Monotreme”. I’m hoping that discussion of these problems on this thread will end so that people can get back to working on preparedness.
Good luck to you all.”
I’m looking forward to reading his site too.
Dem put the URL on ask the mods thread;
DemFromCT – at 07:44
If I knew how I would have copied it,too.;-p Went and had a look, but couldn`t get a post to work.
Guess I shall have to go on a URL hunt in the forest that is “ask the mods” later tonight.
Sigh.
Sorry that was me anonymous – at 19:52
Jumping Jack Flash – at 19:36
It’s very rudimentary, so don’t expect much, yet. ;-)
cactus – at 19:44
I’ve noticed the problem posting comments with Camino but not Safari. Apple has a spam filter that is applied to every comment. I have no control over it. Once I get some input, I’ll try to post a list of browsers that work and one’s that don’t. If anyone has any problems at the site, feel free to send me an email. You can find it on my profile here or at the new site.
mono - the link didn’t work for me.
BTW: hate to see you go! please stick around, or at least LURK a lot!
monotreme, the link didn’t work for me either, using Netscape.
Miss your content.
didn’t work for me either - want to follow your comments so please make sure we know how to find you via the proper link!
thanks for all your contributions to this site…
I think there’s a temporary difficulty with Monotreme’s site, not a bad link. The link above appears to be the same one I used earlier today. It worked fine earlier to connect to his site, now I just get an apple-mac ‘we’re sorry’ page. Try the link tomorrow, hopefully it’ll be sorted out by then.
The long version of the link didn’t work for me either, but I had no problem when I cut it down to http://web.mac.com/monotreme1/ . It went straight to the page with the longer URL.
Monotreme, I truly hope your forays onto FW will be more than “every once in a while.”
Thanks Petticoat Juction!
Thanks Petticoat Junction! You’re right that works.
I changed the name of the “Home” page and that screwed up the URL.
This should work: PII
LauraB,
I’ll continue to lurk at Flu Wiki and will post if anything dramatic happens.
And thanks again to everyone for their kind comments.
waves hi - because couldn’t post the other day- hiya!.
Hi crfullmoon.
Sorry you couldn’t post. Safari on a Mac works and IE on a PC works according to Bronco Bill (thanks BB).
For everbody else who has been trying to get to my site, I changed the name of the Home Page which changed the URL. This one should work
Sorry about that. I promise not to change it again ;-)
I’m sorry you felt the need to once more divide the flu watching community.
i have been victim to it myself… and I must say it is a bad thing. Its hard enough to follow H5N1 without all this drama and divisivness
Goju – at 21:20
I understand you POV. To me, this was a matter of principle. There is more involved than has been apparent from the comments on the Ask the Moderator thread. I haven’t responded because I didn’t want to waste Flu Wiki’s bandwidth. The bottom-line is that I think there are some very important issues that affect our odds of survival that I no longer feel comfortable discussing here. I really have no choice. Nonetheless, I haven’t “left” FW, as you can see. I’m pretty busy right now, but plan to post here again, especially if things heat up.
As far as “dividing” the community, I think redundancy is a good thing. What do you think will happen to the various flu sites when large numbers of people start to “get it”? We need more Flu sites, not fewer.
«As far as “dividing” the community, I think redundancy is a good thing. What do you think will happen to the various flu sites when large numbers of people start to “get it”? We need more Flu sites, not fewer. »
I totally agree. I dont think having several good flu sites is a bad thing at all. They each develop their own flavor. The more good ones, the merrier.
I’m glad to know where to find Monotreme. Without sounding sacharine, I find comfort in him and his information that I don’t find in certain others and I can’t explain why. I was so angry last night as I read the moderators thread that I wrote a scathing post…but didn’t post it. It wouldn’t do any good as I’m just a poor slob with my own opinions that carry no weight here. There is enough information I need to learn that will keep me coming here and I still enjoy the wit, humor and intellect of most others but there is definately a different tone than there was back in May when I joined in. It is very sad, and I’m one who has learned to love change.
Please see Monotreme’s post at 21:17 for the correct link to his new site. Thanks
great, now i have more places to look for info. Just great. NOT.
It’s the virus thats out there while we are busy squabbling. Insane.
Goju, if you think all that was just “squabbling”, I don’t know why you bother to be here reading it. I thought far more was involved than that. I agree with Mosaic that the more the merrier, insofar as flu sites go - no one has a monopoly on information, or discussion. That’s as it should be.
If one cannot comfortably say what one needs or wants to say in one place, then one should be able to find a place where that comfort is found. It seems a pity that that can’t take place without anyone feeling like a “victim”.
Clawdia – at 00:32
I really have no problem going to 5 sites and reading 5 group-thinks. I just have to blend them in my own mind. Any higher number and I will lose the train of thought.
I currently go to 8 daily. Boy, there are some great minds at work and at watch out there. Imagine if they were all in one place discussing the same issues. At times one site or another experiences that… and the experience is awesome.
Now i have 9 to watch.
So… advice… if i have something very important to say, I need to say it in at least 9 places to get various opinions. Which site would be the most important to get the largest and best opinions? or would you just expect different one sided opinions from each site?
H5N1 - 1 Humans - 0
Goju – at 00:47
As the pandemic gets closer and closer, I can see people’s view points harden even more. Every one thinks he/she has the best approach. That’s the unfortunate reality. May be it’s in our DNA. H5N1 wins over us.
Interesting approach, Goju and ANON-YYZ!
We should do some biomimicry magic here. What does the virus do that we should copy or emulate? How can we emulate it? (I can think of some answers but I’d rather leave it open for others. You’re all more interesting than me - at least to me.)
Goju, I appreciate your concern but I have 2 points:
1. The flu community is very small, currently. Once we are successful, it will grow very fast. I have my doubts as to whether the servers of the currently availble boards will be able to handle the load. In the case, having many nodes will be an advantage.
2. My problem here is not squabbling. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. However, there is a very important issue related to flu preparedness that can no longer be discussed here. I would be failing in my mission to help prepare people if I did not discuss it. Note, it’s not a matter of “venting”, it’s a matter of warning people what’s going on so they can take appropriate action. A blind spot on certain country is hazardous to our health. I don’t know if you’ve read this, but it’s an example of the sort of thing that cannot be said here, and why.
Yikes, I don’t know what happened to the last post. I really didn’t mean to scream point 1.
Sorry.
Monotreme-
It certainly woke me up!!!
easier size for my eyes to read ;-)
Good morning!
crfullmoon-
LOL!!! I’ll agree with that!
I’ll fix that, Monotreme. Redundancy is actually a good thing. We know we can’t rely on our current software, server situation; there are longer term issues to deal with.
Flu prep has to be more objective, less emotion-driven. That’s not a knock on anyone… we all go through that when we first start. and I will post Monotreme’s link at the start of this thread for easy access. We’ll find a place for it on the Links and Resources page as well.
OTOH, vague veiled references to China are unnecessary and overly dramatic. We all have issues with every government in the world as to how quickly and effectively they are helping their citizens prep. But in that regard, we need more dry facts and less drama.
The web is a big place, and we encourage everyone to click links and use multiple resources. We never intended Flu Wiki to be the only source you should use. Like wikipedia, resources like this should be a starting point and not an end point.
Monotreme, you used a ! instead of a 1.
I have heard about servers crashing from all the traffic. I’ve also heard that the web will go down when everyone leaves their offices, stays home and goes online. IMHO the web traffic will just move from offices to homes. And insofar as sites crashing? If we could all agree on one site and “harden” it i see no reason for it to crash.
But alas this will never come to pass because we all have our own agendas. Even me I guess.
Mine is to stay alive.
(Wonder what my computer is doing? “The characters you entered do not match the image” Three different tries. Oh well. I should be getting my finances, and my house, in order, instead of being online, anyway.)
If I ever have anything more important than waving hello to Monotreme, I’ll figure out a way around.
Goju – at 09:25 --- If’n I remember correctly, The Crash of March here at FW was not caused by traffic from the web, but instead by the large number of open threads that were sitting on the server. The Mods have since been very diligent about keeping the number of current threads down to a relatively acceptable level, and have set up a seperate, stand-alone server for each of the FluWiki sites—Wiki, and Forum.
What you’ve heard may or may not be true about “the web” going down when everyone stays home. I figure that at night, when most people are home anyway, a lot of them are on the Internet and it hasn’t crashed yet. If there are sporadic power outages in many places, that will eliminate those computers from ‘net access, and many people may be just too busy trying to find food and water to sit and surf the ‘net. Workers who stay home and work won’t add to the traffic ‘cuz it doesn’t really matter if they’re in an office or at home…they’re still on the Internet.
DemFromCT – at 09:10
Thanks for fixing my mistake !
Actually, I think there is lots of factual information on what China is doing to suppress information regarding H5N1. I am working on putting all together in one place and will let you know when it’s done. You’ll be free to critique it ;-)
Goju, putting all of one’s eggs in one basket is never a good idea, IMO. That was kinda the whole point of the internet. I think once we have big clusters and/or the MSM really gets serious, the interest level in flu sites will go through the roof. It’s not that overall internet activity will be too high, it’s that it will become focused on flu rather than celebrity divorces.
it will become focused on flu rather than celebrity divorces.
Thank you. One of my biggest pet pieves about band-width waste!
But if we could get one of these celebrity divorcees to be our spokesperson, we could kill two birds with one stone (would that be enough birds to stop the pandemic?).
Sorry about that blank post. Would you mind sharing some of the additional flu websites that find useful. Thanks in advance.
the Links anrd Resources page is here.
I personally like having several totally different flu sites. They are like the various Christian denominations. They may believe in the same diety, but the details are different. The flu sites each have their own form and flavor, calmness level, degree of speculation, participants, chit-chat and humor, depth of thought, and scientific validity. I have 3 favorites that I check almost daily, and now M’s new one makes 4.
If you want to see a lot of new folks, just wait for the first human case of BF that is diagnosed in New York or London, be it pandemic flu or from a bird. Katy bar the door. Or should I say ‘doors’.