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My usual math and logic checker is unavailable and I was wondering if someone here could help? I couldn’t find another thread where this might fit.
Our health monopoly just had a mass vaccination clinic. They have declared — “Mass Dispensing Exercise proves disaster readiness …More than 750 participants walked through the free flu shot clinic October 28, with more than 600 getting the influenza vaccine…. It took participants on average less than 10 minutes to move through the clinic. Up to four lines at a time were set up for people to sign up, get their vaccine, and move through the clinic as quickly as possible. Staffed with nearly 90 volunteers, the clinic staff tested emergency response procedures that might be needed in an actual emergency.”
It seems to me that given: 1) Mass vaccination was scheduled from 10 AM to 6 PM, or 8 hrs.
2) 750 people (presumably not counting volunteers) went through the line
3) 10 minutes per person, average
4) 4 lines
Therefore=
750 people times 10 minutes each equals 7500 minutes
7500 minutes divided by 4 lines equals 1875 minutes
1875 minutes divided by 60 minutes per hour equals 31.25 hrs to have the clinic
31.25 hrs divided by 8 hrs per work day equals not quite 4 days for the one-day event
Alternatively, if 480 minutes available and it takes ten minutes for 4 people to be processed, how many people can be processed?
Their numbers don’t seem right to me (fewer than 6000 people and many out of town at a major convention; maybe 10 other people went through the process during the half or so I was there) but neither does my math.
Many thanks. If help prefers E-mail, mine is ykalaska AT googlemail
Dem- Am having trouble sending you e-mail, either that or I can’t send e-mail! ;-) Will try again in the morning.
looks like Checkmate is still open.. II is definitely there, but the original still has a comment box.
I knew there was something I forgot.
Good morning and sorry to bother. Working up the France and French-Switzerland Preppers thread, I have introduced a side-scroll with a link. Would you, please, when you have a little time, correct it? Many thanks.
sure!
cottontop, I sent out 7 emails this am… were anyone of them yours? Not everyone tells me who you are when you email me (and you don’t have to).
mpb, propaganda doesn’t want you to think “math and logic”.
-hey; we have a “Pandemic Hall of Shame” thread somewhere for “reporting” like that.
I about bit my toungue off yesterday at a clinic, that was full of clueless jumpy volunteers, and had someone hovering I knew would discount me if I tried to slip the volunteers pandemic awareness cards. If supervisor had been out of the room I might have done some good.
Mass Dispensing Exercise Do Not Prove Pandemic Influenza Year Readiness
If a journalist or a few media outlets would take the plunge… (I would be dreaming)
DemFromCT, I thought I turned off blocking pop-ups to the new site, but I still can’t post there, so, I’m still on the “clueless” part of the curve. (Should be getting other things done chez moi, anyway…)
mpb:
1) it doesn’t say “10 minutes” it says “less than 10 minutes”. E.g., 10 seconds is less than 10 minutes…
2) your logic is faulty anyway (phew!) Even if their average time inside was 10 minutes, it doesn’t mean that they were “blocking” one of the 4 “lines” for that time. Most of the 10 minutes could have been waiting around, walking between places, etc. The number of lines (4) doesn’t tell you what the maximum number of people in the system at any one time is.
Just as an illustration, imagine a clinic with a 9-minute walk (or wait) between where you sign in and where you get the jab and leave. Suppose it takes 30 seconds to get registered and 30 seconds to actually have the jab. Then both the registering place and the injecting doctor can process 120 people per hour, and the overall throughput of the system (in steady state) is 120 people per hour, but each individual person still takes 10 minutes to be processed, and there’s only one line. The number of people processed per hour is unaffected by the length of the wait between stages, although that’s important for determining how long processing each person takes overall.
The branch of mathematics which deals with this kind of thing is appropriately called queueing theory.
Dem..I also sent you an e-mail this AM requesting the new url, but haven’t heard back from you..If you could send it to me at Snowhound1 at aol dot com I would appreciate it. Is there a reason you haven’t publicly posted it here yet?
Bunch of questions… first, I haven’t and can’t be around here regularly lately and for awhile. (hope no English teachers around!) It looks like something is happening… like another forum evolving. There will be some link to it, right?
Thanks for the info on another thread (that I just this morning was able to get back to) concerning the Acetaminophen recall. It doesn’t concern ibuprofen? Because when I google search news for ibuprofen… both acetaminophen and ibuprofen recall come up. I have a whole lot of both. Does anybody know how to contact whoever it is you are suppose contact? Thank you!
The information on the FDA links say to call your doctor if you think you have been affected by the problematic product. There is no contact number for tainted bottles.
EnoughAlready – at 11:17
The new forum will be open to everyone soon. If you want to see it now, post an email address as Snowhound1 did just above your comment, and Dem can send you the URL.
We’re still testing the new site, figuring out what colors look best, how best to arrange the information, trying to remember our html from years ago, etc.
Come on over, it’s fun!
DemFromCT at 08:43. Many thanks.
I’m not sure what happened, but I had the forum open, the screen blinks, and everything is supersized. It’s easier to read. I wondered if it’s from your end as I didn’t do anything but scroll.
not from our end. Your browser has that feature, so maybe you roght-clicked when you should have left-clicked somewhere.
I didn’t do anything but scroll.
If I hold down my Ctrl key while moving the scroll wheel on my mouse, it changes the font sizes.
pogge – at 12:37
Thankyou so much. That is so much better for these old eyes.
Dem-
No, I have not recieved any. I have sent you , humm, lost count. Used both e-mails. Did you recieve any of mine?
HELP Dem or pogge
My password doesn’t work at the new url, now what do I do?
Snowhound1
wait for my email…
cottontop, go here.
Thanks “Papa Bear”…I’m waiting. (That’s what I think your new username should be DEM. >;)
LOL… could be worse… ;-)
The new forum still hates me Dem…I sent you another e-mail.
okay, sent you a new password. Once in, you can go to your personal page, profiles, and change it.
Close your browser, open it again and then go.
Dem-
Success!!!!!
o.k. step 1 complete. I have my new account set up. Must have break! (this is harder than it seems ;-) the squirrel is looking through my window LHA off!
question-why is the password in my account different from the one I put in? can I still use the one I put in or just the one in my account?
change it to what you want, not what they gave you.
Found my answer. Just in case anybody else needs the info:
“Consumers who believe they are in possession of the affected products should discontinue use immediately and call Perrigo’s at 877–546–0454 for further instructions. More info at www.recalls.org “
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I made a post to the “had a Dream, buying a Gun thread under this name but I think it has been ‘overtaken”.
Would you mind taking a look. Thanks.
see response there, thanks!
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Just wanted to say thanks for your hard work on the new forum location, I know it’s kept you busy the last 3 days trying to keep up with everyones’ questions and you’ve all managed to do it without tiring or gettin’ irritated with anyone — you’re all amazing.
Websites for Prepardness Supplies has a side scroll somehow…would you take a look when you get a chance? Thanks!
Can I please have the url to the new site? Gmr4657 at aol dot com. Thanks! Looking forward to it.
Gladys, see DemFromCT – at 13:19
The DOD thread contains information from Federal websites marked “For Official Use Only”, and specifically “Not for Public Distribution”.
the govt tends to take that somewhat seriously. FYI.
c3jmp: then they shouldn’t have put it on the internet, should they? Lol.
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Could you send me the new URL? lilly-lily@hotmail.com Thank you…diana
diana, see DemFromCT – at 13:19
Would like to receive the DOD URL too.Thank you, Beelady
Can we plaese have the Dummies thread again. It was a favorite of mine :) I was learning a lot from that thread.
Neat spam attack, eh. Did I get it all?
i hope so!
Best regards has spammed a number of threads.
Can you please look at the Recombination at Vaccine Summit thread?
Some one claiming to be Mary in Hawaii said I impersonated her and then same name came up again saying what cannot be said.
Been there. Banned a sock puppet.
Can you please close HCW Died in Indonesia thread?
done
Mods-Spam in LessonslearnedfromunplannedSIP thread.
working…
Mods-The threads Book & Parasiticinfection… are spam—one being from the same “daisies2006″ that had an earlier one you deleted & now w/another handle of “bulbs”--someday’s having a heyday here on Turkey Day:)
these are spambots.
ummm…I accidently posted twice in the ‘Not bird news but close news’ thread…and provided a link to a news story that needs a password. Can someone just delete those two posts, and I’ll go back to lurking again for another six or seven months? Sheesh. thank you!
Kodos:
I deleted the duplicate but the link worked fine for me so I left the original post. No need to disappear.
Thank you!
Many threads are being hit. The Auto Bots are busy. (mostly porn uck)
I’ve never seen the SPAM this bad!
Pogge SPAM Alert.. Ref Spam..they are making up their own threads too. All have titles that are running the word together.
Thanks. These attacks that are running across a dozen or more threads at once are always flogging one particular domain. The sooner I can found out the domain and block it, the sooner I can stop them until they pick a different domain. So the messages you folks leave for me are appreciated, though my timing won’t always be right.
I’m looking into anti-bot measures. I doubt I’ll find anything that won’t inconvenience all of us to one degree or another but I may not have a choice. This latest crew is really persistent.
Can someone please tell me why Tom DVM hasn’t been posting on wiki lately? Thank you.
Maybe someone knows more, but it was discussed here.
Ho Pogge
These Spambots are having a field day to day …
Happy to keep bumping threads above the ‘nonsense’ if that helps - although I notice that as you delete the spammed threads the rest float to the top anyway ..
Anything I can do to help?
I’m going to try to remember to change my name when I’m zipping through a bunch of spammy threads. If you see the name “pogge on spam patrol” float to the top, wait a few minutes before you bump. Then the stuff you bump will bypass all the threads I’ve cleaned.
Thanks.
We are so going to do something about this.
Tink – at 15:35 --- He’s taking a break. He’ll be back soon.
pogge
Are you going to be closing active threads on this forum soon? After they reappear on the new forum? (For example, the various recipe threads.)
Is there a date when no new threads will be allowed on this forum?
Hi Mari - here’s the little bit I know. They have already started closing active threads. They are moving them over first and then shutting them down here. A lot of the recipes have been moved already. Irene has created a really nice page on the new site that links to a lot of the various food prep, recipes, cooking info, and food storage.
I’m not sure about when they plan to disallow threads here - I’m sure pogge or Dem will chime in.
active threads should start to be closed this week. There is no date set for no new threads here. We anticipate keeping both places open for months (undetermined).
Mari:
What Dem said. In fact I’m researching spam control methods so we can operate here without the kinds of problems we’ve seen in the last few days.
new site news:
The network (not our site) is resolving some data storage issues. We are going to be a little slower than normal today.
seems the problem is not us http://www.soapblox.net/blog/showDiary.do?diaryId=701 Hope this fix it soon.
Make that a LOT slower.
I haven’t even been able to get the front page for an hour.
Hope they get it fixed so I can continue my forced education on the new forum ;-)
I like some features of this older forum: Mainly the replies on the new site are indented and after a reply to a reply to a reply are done they are indented to the side and hard to read, also the reponses are in reverse order with some new items on top so you cannot follow the history of a thread. - but that is just me.
Around 25 other sites, too.
Not just us. ;-(
All we can do is wait.
DennisC – at 12:14
You can set your comments to show how you want them. You can go to personal page > profiles > comment pref and set comments to (flat) unthreaded, and you can set the newest comment to show at the top or at the bottom (your choice). Your personal page is available through the Right upper Menu, or click any comment with your name (click on DennisC).
The intended indents allow a conversation, and you can click “parent” wherever it’s squished to read it better. But you can do it your way, and you can change it later.
Sorry about the slowdown, or i’d have you scoot on over and check it out.
Dem- is this pretty normal for the other sites too?
cottontop – at 12:20
The slowdown (no), growing pains (yes) or the comment thing (yes)? Many thriving sites use ‘nested’ as a convention.
DemFromCT – at 12:19
Thanks, I have not spent much time at the new site since it is always so slow.
I’ll try it the next time I can “get in”.
I’m just going to use this “down” time to eat some pumpkin pie! Will try later, when all the pie is gone.
Okay, folks, we’re up.
I notice that Melanie is not on the “contacts” on the new forum. Will she be part of the new forum mods? How is she doing? Tell her she is missed.
She’s recovering nicely but slowly and will be added when she is ready to recieve mail. I will pass along your regards and well wishes. Thanks!!
Thanks, (I did see a post or two from her over at Dr. Bob’s, so I assumed she was getting better). She is a pain sometimes, but she is the reason I cam to the site.
Tell her this turkey says hi.
;-)
I just checked in at fluwikie.com and clicked on Discussion Forum and it brought me here. Should it take me to the new forum?
mj, here’s the link http://www.newfluwiki2.com/frontPage.do
I don’t think the mods are going to change that particular link til this forum is closed and that won’t be for awhile.
Bear with us on the sidebar. Right now the sidebars on both servers are “in synch”. If I can, I’d like to keep it that way and make changes that make sense here as well as there. And we certainly don’t want “Discussion Forum” on this server going somewhere else.
Reply to comment a few days ago: I created a Dummies diary (thread) over at the new site. I plan on putting up questions and answers to all the dumb questions I’ve had to ask getting used to the new site. Everyone is very patient over there, so come on over!
Karina’s Dummies Corner is here.
Dem- Do you and the others have a general idea of what threads will be here during the next few months?
Well.. there’ll be whichever threads people start, and whichever threads people are currently using from day to day. Much of that will be community dictated. We will remove threads that are both unused and are not on the Forum index.
Thanks. Just wondering what this site is going to look like once threads were moved over. The new forum is looking great. Still learning though. But I will get the hang of it. I’m impressed with everyone’s hard work, and dedication. I still think we have the best! (I’m not biased. Just convinced.) You Mods are out of this world, literally. How you’ve managed to take on this huge endeavor, manage your homelife, see the light of day, eat, breath and sleep, is truely beyond me. You’re all inspiring. Anon_22, it’s great to be able to put a real name with your words. I’m with the others, in that, if your PPF is raised, so is mine. I try desperately to stay with you in your posts. I usually get lost, but I also learn something, without fail, from you. Thanks for your dedication.
it’ll look the same for a bit, then get an upgrade so that there’s less spam. The upgrade will change very little about how this place works.
what happens after that depends on activity.
I can’t register or create new account at new site. Help!
Rural Dweller- Did you click on “Make New Account” in the upper right Menu Box on the Front Page? After clicking on Make New Account, an Instruction Page will then display and you will be able to enter and confirm both your User name and your Email address. Once that is done, an email with your Password will be automatically generated to your inbox at your email address. Retrieve that password…copy and paste it into the Menu password box at the new site, enter your user name and click submit. Hope that helps.
send me an email demfromct@earthlink.net
What is with all the poll question spam on the new forum ?
You can’t even get to the diary listing of real stuff without 4–5 page scrolls.
Is there some way to put all the poll questions in ONE area so they don’t spam the entire board ?
Some people don’t CARE about 10 poll questions in a row.
A bit excessive, especially when you are trying to learn to navigate the site.
Just another frustration layer.
That’s one of the community members using the site… it’d be as if someone posted 10 threads in a row here. If you consider it rude, tell them. One poll or two polls a day might be more acceptable.
Good morning Dem - afternoon for you ;-)
Just a reminder, the light from your computer screen is not the type that activates your Vitamin D - you need to get outside and get some natural light … so take 10 please - I’ll hold the fort for you until I go to golf - in about an hour’s time …
AnnieB – at 13:57
the light from your computer screen is not the type that activates your Vitamin D
Oh really? No wonder my bones are kinda, you know… ;-)
Aha - Dem, I just started a new diary without being aware mine just go straight to the front page - not my intention - you should have warned me! No harm done as I am sure it will be a ‘favourite’ - it certainly is/was here …
You might like to get it off though …
Up to you, AnnieB. Just demote it.;−0
But I’d leave it there to see how people like it.
AnnieB’s a new deputy over there, along with MaMa and Bronco Bill. You all won’t have this option:
AnnieB – at 14:15
PS when writing a new diary, check at the bottom. There’s a checkbox to ‘put on front page’. Just uncheck before saving, or demote after.
Thanks for the help Dem….
bluesfan – at 10:00 Rural Dweller- Did you click on “Make New Account”…an Instruction Page…user name and your Email address…
I went thru all the motions and the new wiki told me my e-mail was invalid ???
Rural Dweller: Dem would like you to email him and he will help you:
demfromct@earthlink.net
Rural Dweller – at 17:33
email me at either demfromct@earthlink.net or forumadmin@fluwikie.com
and i will fix.
Good morning
How do I change my password?
Thank you
At long last, I found it. Thanks anyway and have a nice Sunday
Questions - at the new site do we use “Contact” instead of ask questions of the moderators - also, is there a way for individuals to reverse the order of the Diaries so newest post can be read first?
Contact is email. Any questions for the mods you can just post in the community sandbox..
http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=285
is there a way for individuals to reverse the order of the Diaries so newest post can be read first?
Not the diaries, where the newest diary IS first. You mean comments? yes!
For flat (unthreaded), you need to go to your personal page. On every page there is a Menu, upper right, and there is a link to Rural Dweller’s Page. On it, to the right is Profile. Click on it. In the middle of the page, it says “comment pref”. Set it to flat unthreaded to get rid of indentations, and the time to either oldest first or newest first. And SAVE THE PAGE before you leave.
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Can you mention to pogge that I’m getting paranoid there are sockpuppets under every bed?
At least there will never be a chicken in every pot…
Sure!
pogge, please read the above comment.
So don’t look under the bed. ;-)
Seriously, I haven’t seen anything that looks like sock puppets since that one thread on Saturday. When someone gets impersonated, we tend to hear about it.
crfullmoon – at 16:12 Can you mention to pogge that I’m getting paranoid there are sockpuppets under every bed?
Those aren’t sockpuppets…they’re dustbunnies!
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Dustbunnies; highly likely, BB, they do keep multiplying as the vac loses out to the monitor.
(But pogge, what’s with all the “Day the Earth Stood Still” monikers? Oh well…)
spam at Bird Flu Outbreaks in Indonesia Going Unstudied
Got it. Including some old stuff I didn’t realize was there. Thanks.
(But pogge, what’s with all the “Day the Earth Stood Still” monikers? Oh well…)
(getting sudden urge to see if the libary has that Pink Panther movie with the guy who develops the eye tic.)
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Are we still go at 9pm?
Yup. Any minute now.
Actually, I meant 9pm + 7 minutes! ;-)
You’ll be pleased to know I reset the clock while we were closed.
let’s see
Yes, the clock works!!
Suh-Weet!!!
thanks for the time
Not so sure I’m gonna like the “Comment Added” after every comment…but such is progress! ;-)
so, BB, it ought to be easy to spot long threads and close ‘em.
Anything longer than 120 is fair game.