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14 November 2006

DemFromCTat 22:26

new thread… old one here

Michelle in OK – at 23:16

Thanks Mama for the information on Madukara. Since it is in Banjarnegara, Central Java, it is likely that the death referred to is Juanto/Juarto (17) who died on 11/06. I won’t add an additional patient unless more information surfaces.

Thanks Influentia2 also for your dedication in searching and getting additional details.

I may not post each night, as I did before the news slowdown, because it gets very time consuming. But, I will try to keep up with the information and post when it is needed. Thanks again to all who are searching the news.

Michelle in OK – at 23:20
Cases DiscussedJun-06Jul-06Aug-06Sep-06Oct-06Nov-06Total
Died, no test results22437018
Died, tested positive43233116
Other tested positive0131016
Symptoms, tests pending424638309129
Tested negative06261911062
Totals101481645111231
MaMaat 23:37

You’re very welcome Michelle in OK and thanks for your dedication and organizational skills!

15 November 2006

MaMaat 00:11

not that this is news to us:-)

INTERVIEWIndonesia needs better birdflu controlhospital head

GENEVA, Nov 14 (Reuters) - “Poultry control measures must be tightened in Indonesia where public awareness of bird flu is poor even though it has the highest number of human deaths, the head of the country’s main treatment hospital said on Tuesday.

Cock fighting and backyard chicken farming remain common in the sprawling archipelago, according to Sardikin Giriputro, head of Sulianto Saroso Hospital, the national hospital for infectious diseases in Jakarta.

“The virus is still circulating in poultry, not in commercial farms but in backyard farms which is very difficult to control,” Sardikin told Reuters in an interview.

“We have to focus effort to control it. Public awareness is still inadequate.

“People don’t follow advice from the government, it is difficult to change behaviour…”

…”His hospital has investigated more than 225 suspect bird flu cases, confirming 22 cases with 19 deaths to date, he said.

“Most of the patients who died came in the late stage. We gave Tamiflu but it was already 48 hours after (disease) onset,” he said…”

…”The three patients who survived had received Tamiflu but two of them had only mild cases of bird flu, according to Sardikin.

Indonesia has only one laboratory with sufficient biosafety measures to confirm bird flu and this will rise to three labs next year, he said. “It can take days to diagnose cases. We think there may be some missed cases.

It is a result of laboratory testing, which depends on quality and timing of the swabs. Sometimes the virus is no longer in the throat or on nose swabs even though clinically we may believe it is a case of avian flu but the laboratory can‘t prove it,” he said.”

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L14407780.htm

MaMaat 01:41

this was originally posted by Influentia2 earlier this evening but the post disappeared

KARAWANG, (GM). - Tim Balitbang Department of Health took the example of blood totalling 20 citizens who had the story of contact with casualties suspect bird flu, Amirul Apriyanto (2,5) that died on Monday (13/11) at dawn. Apart from against casualties’s family, blood sampling was also carried out against several officials of the health in the clinic and the hospital. Blood sampling was against the poultry that was maintained by the citizen around casualties’s house also carried out by the team from the Director General of Livestock Breeding, on Tuesday (14/11). In the meantime, the Kab Livestock Breeding Service. Karawang, apart from doing the vaccination against the poultry, also did disinfektan, on Monday (13/11). The chairman Tim Balitbang Department of Health RI, Dr. Sony said, his side was still carrying out observation about the source of the virus avian influenza (AI). Sony considered, the situation of the environment of casualties’s house very far from the standard of the health. “Seen from the house environment remained at the family, for the standard of the health, really not more supportive,” said Sony. The chicken died suddenly In The Meantime, information that was received from Ato (45), one of casualties’s neighbours mentioned, in the place of garbage disposal that was behind casualties’s house there are those that threw two chickens that died suddenly away. This chicken could be that burnt, but indirectly was buried. In the meantime, the two parents of casualties who lived under the standard of this welfare, admitted to submitting with his youngest child’s trip. “Now we submit, but we asked for the RSUD Karawang side in order to not treat the same thing to the poor person who used Askeskin if entering the hospital,” hoped Oboy Wiarso. According to Oboy Wiarso, compared with his relatives, Amirul was classified as the child cleverest. He often playing in the place of garbage disposal that was exact behind his parents’s house.

http://tinyurl.com/ymn9ho

Pixie – at 02:01

MaMa – at 01:41 & Influentia: Tim Balitbang Department of Health took the example of blood totalling 20 citizens who had the story of contact with casualties suspect bird flu, Amirul Apriyanto (2,5) that died on Monday (13/11) at dawn. Apart from against casualties’s family, blood sampling was also carried out against several officials of the health in the clinic and the hospital.

20 is more close contacts than we usually see tested, and this number includes people at the health clinic and at the hospital, which is unusual.

Influentia2 – at 06:36

Pixie MaMa Halo

I had also posted this on the news thread. I could barely get on here, was very slow. I will look some more tonight after work. When the HCW workers were tested in Tulungagung after Abram died it was several days before I could find anything. So I will have to excercise some patience finding any info on this situation.

pugmom – at 15:14

To the Gang: I have been out of commission for about a week. I am now back on and ready to go and I think you guys have added about 4–6 cases possibly, and more suspicious ones too. Michelle, I need to know when your last spreadsheet came out, as I will need to download one to get caught up and have a reference point from which to spring forth anew. I am still interested in Indo, but I am now more worried about HK and the new Fujian strain. Will need to keep eyes on more and more places around the world, as this thing intensifies. I hope we have enough virus voyeurs!! Thanx Michelle.

Influentia2 – at 20:52

16/11/2006 WHO and PKP

KARAWANG, (GM). - the Health Body of the World (WHO) with the Livestock Breeding Service, Marine, and fisheries (PKP) Kab. Karawang, still was continuing to carry out investigation from the source of the virus avian influenza (AI) that spread to Amirul Afrianto. According to the Head of the Field of Livestock Breeding of the Livestock Breeding Service, fisheries, and Marine Kab. Karawang, Tuti Sri Pujiastuti when being found “GM” in his office, on Wednesday (15/11), beforehand the official did not find the existence of the case of bird flu to the poultry in the Village Cikampek the City. Moreover, around casualties’s residence also did not have the poultry farm that it was suspected will become the source spread him this virus. “All of us surprised and felt robbed because suddenly had the patient suspect bird flu to humankind, in fact beforehand was not found by the existence of the AI case to the poultry in this location,” said Tuti. He mentioned, his side was with WHO carrying out investigation from the source of the virus that attacked Amirul until dying, especially against the poultry that property of the citizen of the Village Krajan the Adolescent, the Village Cikampek the City, Kec. Cikampek that was the environment of the residence of bird flu casualties. Other efforts that was carried out by the PKP Service to prevent the occurrence of the spread of the AI virus around parents’s residence Oboy, being carried out by the vaccination towards various poultry kinds belonging to the citizen who was done from the house to the house including the chicken, the duck, the dove and chirping birds that was maintained by the citizen that was in a radius of one kilometre. Moreover also was accompanied with spraying disinfektan around this location, especially in the chicken coop, the poultry, and the chirping birds pen.

http://tinyurl.com/ymn9ho

Influentia2 – at 21:01

http://tinyurl.com/ydmvcp

Cikampek Karawang map link

ANON-YYZ – at 21:12

Influentia2 – at 20:52

Thanks for the story. No poultry source found. WHO team investigating. I haven’t kept up with the news. Has this been the norm recently or is this the exception?

Influentia2 – at 21:27

Anon-YYZ 21:12

When this happened in Tulungagung with Abram who died and Eni his sister who was sent to the hospital in Surabaya, WHO was there. That was in September and 19 nurses and the Doctor at the hospital in Tulungagung were tested. In that case poultry tested positive and the siblings family and HCW’s all tested negative. I think it was 5–6 days before I could find those results although IMO I think someone knew sooner than that. I will just have to keep an eye on this but also IMO whenever HCW’s are being tested it is not a good sign and I wonder what causes enough concern to test the HCW’s, but in this case it may be that local official found no positive chickens and WHO came in but that is my speculation. OTOH, some have insisted that testing should be done on other things than chickens and maybe officials are testing in the wrong places? I think this is probably more than you were wanting to know but thanks for asking. Sorry for going on Anon-YYZ.

ANON-YYZ – at 21:45

Influentia2 – at 21:27

Thanks for analysis. So this may be an exceptional situation of either another mammal or human to human. We may hear more in the next few days then.

Influentia2 – at 22:17

Anon-YYZ 21:27 I expect that your commment is a possibility. It’s hard to say at this point, WHO is there so I don’t rule anything out anymore. I hate to say it but I don’t know what to expect to come out of Karawang.

http://tinyurl.com/ybaqj5 UPDATE TULUNGAGUNG

On Thursday, November 16 2006 the Siti Membaik

 Condition

TULUNGAGUNG- the Condition for pre-schoolers who it was suspected were infected by the virus Avian influenza (AI), Siti Mukolifah, showed signs improved. However the daughter of the couple’s youngest child Taroni and Maryuti was still being treated intensive in RSUD isolation space Dr Iskak Tulungagung while being waiting for results of the sample inspection of blood of Surabaya. Although the development of the Siti Mukolifah health make happy, but was not yet it was known certain whether the age child 3.5 years were infected by AI or not. Results of the test of casualties’s blood of the sample lab in the Big Hall Laboratoriun the Health (BBLK) East Java in Surabaya just could be known around a week again. “Up until today (yesterday, red) we did not yet accept results of the Siti lab.” The possibility of results not until was waiting a week again. Because we asked his lab test to be speeded up. If not having the hindrance possibly tomorrow (red, red) results have been known, said Bahrudin Budi Santoso, kasubdin the Prevention and the Eradication of the Tulungagung Illness of the Health Service. The cheerful man this explained, every day the Siti condition continued to be monitored. Results of the team’s medical RSUD inspection for three days showed that his condition continued to improve. The temperature of his body has descended, breathless and his cough also rather has abated. Remained pilek that up until now still annoying. Nevertheless, his side still could not guarantee the negative patient AI. “That could confirm free AI was results of the lab of BBLK. If from results of the diagnosis precisely headed to the other illness.” But we did not want reckless before having the assurance produced by the lab, said Bahrudin. Just was learnt, Siti Mukolifah was reconciled to RSUD Dr Iskak Tulungagung last Monday night. Apart from because his sign that was suffered by casualties similar to the bird flu sufferer, in casualties’s environment also was received by many chickens that died suddenly. From results of investigation of livestock breeding of the official of the service was found by the existence of the chicken that died because positive was infected by AI. Bahrudin explained, casualties will be treated in isolation space until had results of the lab. And just will be moved in the room of the public if having the free assurance AI. was the reverse, if evidently positive results.

Influentia2 – at 22:23

And for the rest of the words over 300:

if evidently positive results, then casualties were immediately sent to RSU Dr Sutomo Surabaya. “Yes his procedure that’s right.” If having the positive patient in East Java, his reconciliation RSU Dr Sutomo, obviously him.

AnnieBat 23:00

If the ‘speculation’ regarding HCWs being tested is with the little boy (2 and half years), remember he was initially at another hospital and diagnosed with Dengue. HCWs would not have taken the precautions prescribed for suspected BF in that case. It was only when his condition changed that he was moved to the central hospital where he died hours later - hopefully my memory is not faulty here. This could be confirmed if the HCWs being tested are from the original hospital where he was first taken.

Hope that helps?

AnnieBat 23:02

I also recollect that his infection was upper respiratory - unusual for BF - most have been lower respiratory .. also human flu spreads easier from upper respiratory …

Me stop speculating now, me upsetting myself (smile)

16 November 2006

pugmom – at 01:53

New Case: Medan, Northern Sumatra, pre-schooler with initials “SS”, age 2. dated 11–15–06. http://tinyurl.com/y8bk8o (sorry if this is not news—I have been gone for awhile.)

A Medan pre-schooler of the citizen’s man suspect bird flu died in space of the Longing isolation of A RSUP H Adam the Medan Owner after undergoing the maintenance for two days. Information from a room nurse mentioned, casualties that had the initials SS, 2, the citizen Medan Helvetia died on Wednesday (15/11) around struck 01:00 the dawn. The last condition for flu casualties, coughs, breathless was accompanied by appetite ate was not that caused weak. Further casualties’s body was evacuated to the funeral parlour. Beforehand, the pre-schoolers underwent the maintenance in RSUP H Adam the Owner, on Monday night (13/11) after being reconciled from one of the close private hospitals his house. However, casualties could not remain as a result of the illness that was suffered by him continued to improve. One of the families mentioned, initially casualties experienced the high fever since two Mingggu then. At that time around casualties’s house was gotten by the chicken poultry died suddenly. Deputy Director Pelayanan Medis RSUP H. Adam the Owner Dr. M. Nur Rasyid Lubis, SpB with the head treated inap suspect bird flu Dr. Adlin Adnan, Sp. THT justified pre-schoolers suspect bird flu died in the last condition for the temperature of the body achieved 39 Celcius levels, breathless, coughs were accompanied by appetite ate was not available. “Casualties died with the last condition for the high fever achieved 39 Celcius levels, flu, coughs.” Moreover, casualties’s white lungs. However, from lekosid and trombosit normal and did not support bird flu, said Rasyid. The same thing was sent by Adnan. When casualties entered Adam’s hospital the Owner was known by the weak and breathless condition. Casualties also it was known have experienced the fever approximately in the last two weeks. The team of the health of bird flu has given help of the maintenance and gave medicine anti bird flu (Tamiflu) as well as antibiotik other, but the life of casualties was not helped. “From results sample blood of casualties’s routine that was taken by the negative.” Whereas sample blood that was sent to the Centre of the Jakarta Laboratory was not yet known by results. So, we must be waiting for these results, he said….

Influentia2 – at 06:22

Liputan6.com, Padang: Eka’s Superior Condition the son and Muhammad Rivaldi, two assumption patients of bird flu that was treated in the central Public Hospital of Mohamad Jamil Padang, West Sumatra, improved. Moreover the infusion hose that since four days menancap on their body has been pulled out, on Wednesday (15/11) [baca: two Padang citizens were expected Terjangkit Bird Flu]. Results of the first test showed bird flu to the two negative patients. But the hospital side was still being waiting for results of the second blood test that his sample was sent to Jakarta. For the time being both of them might not yet also leave isolation space. While parents of the two children were still staying worried. They were not yet calm because the Superior condition and Rivaldi were not yet really stable. (ICH/Denni Isman and Arset Kusnadi)

Commonground – at 16:03

Riau -Sumatra http://tinyurl.com/yx7y7o Pekanbaru — MILO: the Health Service (Diskes) the Pekanbaru City, Riau, alerted 15 community health centres to serve the patient suspect bird flu after the city was stated by the extraordinary incident and Riau in the alert status 1 bird flu. Moreover, Dinkes also provided 3.000 Tamiflu tablets, so as each community health centre received 200 tablets that will be given to the patient suspect bird flu free. Diskes will ‘also prepare 400 tablets when from time to time was needed’, the Dinkes Syaiful Rab headword, on Wednesday (15/11). According to him, penyiagaan the community health centre was done along with the supervision of the health of the community that lived in the positive territory bird flu for 20 days in the future for prevented pandemik to humankind. In the Pekanbaru City was gotten seven positive subdistricts terjangkit this virus, that is the Senapelan Subdistrict, the Umbrella A Foot, Handsome, the Great Hill, Tenayan Great, Rumbai, and the Sukajadi Subdistrict. For anticipated pandemik to humankind, the Government of the Province (the Provincial Government) Riau with the National Committee the Control of Bird Flu and Preparedness faced the influenza Pandemic (Komnas FBPI) as well as UNICEF (the UN body for children), yesterday, spread out the meeting of the handling co-ordination of this virus. Kita berupaya agar kasus flu burung di Riau jangan sampai menular kepada manusia. Untuk itu, kita bersama Kantor Kementerian Kesejahteraan Rakyat akan memberikan bantuan peralatan pendukung kepada RSUD Arifin Ahmad sebagai rumah sakit rujukan pasien flu burung di Riau, kata Wakil Ketua Komnas FBPI Emir Agustiarno usai rapat di Kantor Gubernur Riau.

The spreading of the bird flu virus in Riau currently spreads. From 11 regencies/the city only four that free bird flu, whereas seven other was stated positive bird flu. The seven areas were the Pekanbaru City, the Dumai City, the Siak Regency, Kuantan Singingi, Rokan Lower, Rokan the Upstream, and the Regency Indragiri the Upstream. -snip- The plague of bird flu that attacked the Pekanbaru City made the turnover of the trader of the piece chicken in the traditional market descend through to 300% if compared with beforehand. Was based on observation of the Indonesian Media in the Market of Cik Lady, yesterday, the activity of the sale of the piece chicken was seen quiet. The decline happened since the last three days. Usually we could sell 80 tails per the day, but now only 20 tails, said Anto, one of the traders of the piece chicken in this market.

Commonground – at 16:09

http://tinyurl.com/eqkxj
Padang, Kompas — the West Sumatra Community very anxious with the case of bird flu, following died the suddenness thousands of tails of the chicken poultry in an amount nagari (the lowered government of the replacement of the village) in the Dharmasraya Regency and the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency, since two last weeks. West Sumatra Governor Gamawan Fauzi stressed, the Government of the West Sumatra Province has moved faster from the assumption originally. The “team has descended to the field checked and gave the vaccine.The sample of the patient’s blood that was expected suspect bird flu has then been sent, and results of the research that we received today, on Thursday, the negative. So be not found by us the existence of the spread of the bird flu virus to the chicken poultry to humankind in this area, he said. The section head the Health of the West Sumatra Province, Rosnini Savitri, that was contacted separately said, the case of bird flu was not encountered to humankind in West Sumatra. From the sample research of blood by Balitkes in Jakarta, two patients — was 2.5 years and 11 years old — that was expected suspect bird flu, results of his blood test were negative. While from the beginning inspection of the chicken poultry that died suddenly, the West Sumatra headword of the Service of Province Livestock Breeding, Benny Muchtar, results 55 percent positive bird flu. “However, official results of the research of the Hall of the Illness Inspection Veteriner Regional Ii Bukittinggi, just could be known several days in the future,” he said.

Michelle in OK – at 16:47

pugmom… It’s good to have you back! Sorry for the delay, but I wasn’t online yesterday evening.

The last spreadsheet was dated 11–08. It is here ftp://www.singtomeohmuse.com/

For anyone new, the logon is “wikimember” and the password is “wiki123″.

pugmom, I’ll try to develop a post with new additions to the spreadsheet since 11–08, if I can get organized.

Michelle in OK – at 17:11

These are the new lines added to the spreadsheet since 11–08. They are sorted by date.

  1. Kerawang, West Java 11/5 - A/Amirul Apriyanto (2.5) upper resp symptoms, hospitalized, transferred 11/10, died 11/13 +d + 73 WHO 56 died Sulianti Saroso, Jakarta North
  2. Banjarnegara, Central Java 11/6 - another local citizen symptoms s health center/RSU Banyumas
  3. Tangerang, W. Java 11/7 - ES (35F) symptoms, hospitalized 11/10 + + 74 Sulianti Saroso, Jakarta North
  4. Padang, W. Sumatra 11/12 - Superior Eka (11M) hospital s RSUD M. Djamil Padang
  5. Padang, W. Sumatra 11/12 - Muhammad Ripandi (3M) hospital s RSUD M. Djamil Padang
  6. Medan, N. Sumatra 11/13 - SS (2) transferred hospitals, died 11/15 n/a d died ?/RSUP H Adam the Medan Owner
  7. Padang, W. Sumatra 11/13 - 2 positive cases died? hospital d ? RSUD M. Djamil Padang
  8. Padang, W. Sumatra 11/13 - 2 positive cases died? hospital d ? RSUD M. Djamil Padang
Commonground – at 17:28

Hi Michelle in OK. Thank you so much for that listing. I have some info that might be the #2 above? Don’t know? Juanto (17) - Died 11/6. Admitted 11/5 to Margono Sukaryo Hospital. Symptoms 11/1. Banjarnegara. Village: Kalimandi.

pugmom – at 20:38

Virus expanding in Riau: dated 11–17–06. http://preview.tinyurl.com/yzlrv6

On Friday, November 17 2006 Pekanbaru (the Work Voice): the Spreading of the plague of bird flu in Riau was classified as fast. At this time already two cities and four regencies were infected by the virus that frightening that, namely Pekanbaru, Dumai, Siak, Kuantan Sengingi, Rokan Lower, Rokan the Upstream, and Indragiri the Upstream. That was said by the Section Head the Health Riau Taswin Yacob to the reporter on Wednesday (15/11), ended attended the meeting of the control co-ordination of the bird flu illness in the Office Governor Riau.

The meeting was held regarding was maintained by him the alert status one bird flu for Riau. He said, ‘’‘when the alert status one that was announced last Monday (13/11), just four areas in Riau that was stated positive was infected by the bird flu virus. “But the latest development that we received from the Livestock Breeding Service, has had seven positive areas of bird flu,’‘’ he said……

17 November 2006

Commonground – at 06:26

http://tinyurl.com/yxtke8
The MEDIA IT WAS HOPED had WISDOM in the BENCANA [The disaster] REPORTING -the News of the press Media - the Information Service and Communication, 17–11–2006 08:08 WIB - The role of the media it was hoped had wisdom in the reporting as well as informed the disaster incident and his handling efforts, so as to not cause the impact of the negative for the community. The expression itui was sent by the Head of the Centre of the Study of the ITS Disaster, amen Widodo when opening the Seminar facilitated Empowerment of the Media’s Community in the Handling of the Disaster, in the Narita Hotel, on Thursday (16/11); He Said, the freedom of the media in informing the incident and the horror in the disaster incident, as the tsunami incident in Aceh, could cause the impact of the negative for the community especially the community of the coastal coast, like that heard their earthquake really the fear. Moreover, the information could be made use of by people who were not responsible for, like rumours happening the tsunami in Jogya and Pacitan some time before. The number of nature dangers and as a result of the conduct of humankind could change to the disaster dikarenakan the lack of basic knowledge about the disaster that was owned by the community. By that, not yet terlatih him the community in understanding the process of the disaster and the trigger of the disaster. Therefore, the role of the media became important in fact to the backbone of the transformation of knowledge about the disaster to the community. Through this activity was hoped for by the existence of the inter-media co-ordination how facilitated the media’s community, in order to not do something wrong the perception in informing the disaster to the community. The chairman of the postgraduate Program the Study of the Unair Communication Media, Drs Henry Subiakto said, in information delivery the important disaster was how manyampaikan communication, so that the community could face him with calmer and be careful. Moreover, was needed by communication to deliver warning to the community, coordinated the team of the control of the disaster, at the same time showing to the public and the media, that the government and the official worked in menanggulagi the disaster, so as to the communication crisis not happen. Said by Henry, the management krsisis communication very important to develop the image and the reputation, as well as gave the safe feeling, peace and pointed out the existence and the sincerity government. In order to the communication crisis not happen, then the organisation, the community and the government, was prosecuted to anticipate him towards the handling of the crisis, both the technical dimension and communication, must be prepared before the crisis or when the disaster happened. It was related that that, the role of the mass media very much important. The media had the task of sending the message or the warning to the community about signs of the crisis or the disaster, so as the community could recognise him as well as responded to him early to reduce his impact. When the occurrence of the disaster, there was three stages in doing information relations, that is gathering, packing and sending him, so as each element it was hoped knew what must be done. “Media the mass with public relations it was demanded carried out the campaign to reduce the intensity of the crisis and his impact, as well as give the escort what must be done by masyarakat,” ujarnya Henry added, without the role of the media, all perisriwa that to “nothing”. So, the mass media must study with his experts made inhouse training to all crew him, so that when facing the crisis could apply journalisme that exact, not even showed the information mistake.

Commonground – at 06:39

[Not H5N1 related. 70,000 thousand people still living in barracks set up after the tsunami disaster, 2 years ago…..] http://tinyurl.com/y2onf7
Oxfam Tim’s Form the Sanitation Monitor in Aceh

 Jum’at, on November 17 2006 | 13:20 WIB

[Excerpt]
The Interactive TIME, Banda Aceh: Oxfam helped the tsunami casualties in Aceh for the housing field and sanitation. By his two expired years the Acehinese tsunami disaster, Oxfam found still had approximately 70 thousand living people in the barracks. According to Barbara Stocking, Director Oxfam, many that must be carried out to reduce the risk of the health of the community in the place of the evacuation, moreover by the rain season. For him, must be confirmed that the citizen had clean water access and sanitation facilities in houses that will be occupied by them.

Commonground – at 06:52

http://tinyurl.com/y6q5t5 The poultry in Dharmasraya Positive was attacked by Burung Flu Padang (Antara News) - results of the inspection of the example (the sample) chicken blood that died suddenly totalling 1.543 tails in two last weeks in the Dharmasraya Regency, West Sumatra (West Sumatra), was proven to be positive was attacked by the bird flu virus (Avian influenza/AI). The “sample of chicken blood that died this positive contained the AI virus” mdq the Dharmasraya headword of the Service of Regency Agriculture, Ir. A. Rahim, to Antara News in the Dareh River, the Dharmasraya Regency, West Sumatra, on Friday. Results of the Laboratory and the Veteriner Research of the Development Hall (BPPV) meatballs, the Virile Regency, decisive that thousands of chickens in Dharmasraya that died this as a result of being attacked by the AI virus the type H5N1. According to him, his side contacted BPPV, and was stated that results of the laboratory proved the sample of blood that was sent is positive bird flu, so as the sample research was still continuing to be continued. Although the complete data in writing was not yet accepted, said he, the assurance from the BPPV side has explained that the chicken that died this positive was attacked by the bird flu virus. “Various anticipation actions continued to be carried out, including spraying poultry pens that died that, nearby memvaksin the chicken livestock that still was living in the distance of the radius one kilo metre from the location of the incident,” he said. Anticipation continued to be carried out, according to him, among them mass spraying against available poultries in the area, so that the same plague does not spread. The Dharmasraya Regional Government, said he, also alerted the official was accompanied by the veterinary surgeon to do spraying and giving of the vaccine. The local data of the agricultural Service named the chicken that died suddenly that was spread to four nagari, that is Nagari four cities and Sikabau in the Island Subdistrict of the Pergola, as well as Nagari Timpe and Siguntur in the Sitiung Subdistrict. The case of the death 6.400 chickens suddenly in the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency, currently continue to spread to rural areas, that originally the area that terjangkit only subdistricts Kamang Just, the Langsat River, currently attacks 650 kept chickens the community in the Sijunjung Subdistrict and IV Nagari, for the last two days. “We stayed alert and carried out spraying of disinfectant to the region that became an epidemic him the virus,” he said.

Commonground – at 07:11

http://tinyurl.com/yxs4hm
Liputan6.com, Dharmasraya: Thousands Of chickens died suddenly in the Dharmasraya Regency and Sawahlunto, West Sumatra, in a last week. Till yesterday, the official of West Sumatra Livestock Breeding of the Service still could not find the cause of the death of thousands of chickens. Possibility investigation terjangkit him the bird flu virus up until yesterday also still was taking place. To prevent terjangkit him the plague avian influenza (AI), the West Sumatra side of the Livestock Breeding Service had finally sent 200 thousand doses of the bird flu vaccine and 600 litre disinfektan. As for spraying of the pest eradicator and giving of the vaccine to thousands of kept poultries the citizen was also followed by the official in two regencies. Whereas the breeders have also been forbidden to bring the chicken left the Dharmasraya Regency and Sawahlunto. Other efforts to ward off bird flu to this territory also were carried out, that is banning the entry of the chicken from Riau. This step was taken after Riau was stated endemic bird flu. In the meantime, the Government of the Mamuju Regency, Sulawesi West, admitted to being overwhelmed overcame the spreading of bird flu that spread. His article, the spreading of the AI virus the sub-type H5N1 this was estimated spread to the Tapalang Subdistrict, Sampaga and Karossa. The assumption breakingprep early, hundreds of kept chickens the citizen died suddenly in three subdistricts [read: Bird Flu spread in Mamuju]. According to the local Livestock Breeding Service expanded him bird flu in the Mamuju Regency resulting from the delay of help of the vaccine from the government of the centre. Moreover, many citizens reluctantly reported if his kept chicken died.

pugmom – at 19:12

Negative results in West Sumatra and the 2 cases in Jakarta: dated 11–17–06. http://tinyurl.com/yameur (note: who are they talking about being tested in Sumatra?-no names given!)

Bird flu did not yet infect the Community’s West Sumatra Humankind very anxious with the case of bird flu, following died the suddenness thousands of tails of the chicken poultry in an amount nagari (the lowered government of the replacement of the village) in the Dharmasraya Regency and the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency, since two last weeks.

Padang, West Sumatra Governor Gamawan Fauzi stressed, the Government of the West Sumatra Province has moved faster from the assumption originally. The “team has descended to the field checked and gave the vaccine.” The sample of the patient’s blood that was expected suspect bird flu has then been sent, and results of the research that we received today, on Thursday, the negative. So be not found by us the existence of the spread of the bird flu virus to the chicken poultry to humankind in this area, he said.

The section head the Health of the West Sumatra Province, Rosnini Savitri, that was contacted separately said, the case of bird flu was not encountered to humankind in West Sumatra. From the sample research of blood by Balitkes in Jakarta, two patients — was 2.5 years and 11 years old — that was expected suspect bird flu, results of his blood test were negative….

pugmom – at 19:13

note: the blood was tested in Jakarta, but the 2 patients did not come from Jakarta—they came from Sumatra. My reading error.

pugmom – at 19:16

These 2 are from Padang, Western Sumatra and are Eka and Muhammad Ripandi.

Michelle in OK – at 19:25

pugmom at 19:12… I think the two cases in W. Sumatra they are reporting as negative are Superior Eka (11M) and Muhammad Ripandi (3M). I think Jakarta is only referenced since that is where the samles were sent.

Commonground at 17:28… the spreadsheet posted 11–08 already had Juanto (17) that died. One of the articles referenced “another local citizen” with symptoms. But thanks for comparing information. The articles are getting more and more vague with names.

18 November 2006

Michelle in OK – at 11:14

I think this is the same patient as reported by pugmom on Nov 16 at 1:53. The age is listed as 6, not 2, but all the other details seem to match.

Link to proMED

A 6-year-old child suspected of being infected with avian flu virus, died at Adam Malik Hospital in Medan, North Sumatra, a hospital director said on Thu 16 Nov 2006.

M. Nur Rasyid Lubis, deputy director of the hospital, said the child had been treated at the hospital for 2 days. The child died at 1 a.m. Wednesday morning with a temperature of 39 degrees [Celsius, or 102.2 degrees Fahrenheit], after experiencing breathing difficulties, coughing and loss of appetite, he added. The victim was previously admitted to a private hospital near his home. However, because his condition did not improve, he was transferred to Adam Malik Hospital, Rasyid said. A member of his family said the child experienced a high fever for 2 weeks, following the death of a number of chickens around his house…

Michelle in OK – at 11:19

pugmom… I apologize for duplicating information in my post yesterday at 19:25. It takes me awhile to compare details in the spreadsheet, and by the time I posted you had already detailed the information. I just closed out after posting and didn’t even see your posts above until now.

Michelle in OK – at 11:23

Information is very slow (which is likely what the officials intend.) I sometimes glance over a few foreign newspapers but don’t post anything because you all have already picked it up. Interesting, but Medan Bisnis Online (one of my earliest reliable sources) is no longer available without a subscription.

Commonground – at 11:46

Michelle in OK - at 11:23, all I would get (this just happened 2 days ago) is a “forbidden” statement. It’s a shame. I liked that site.

Commonground – at 12:02

http://www.mediaindo.co.id/berita.asp?id=116897
Pekanbaru — MIOL: the Plague of bird flu in Riau continued to spread. For the last one months already six regencies/the city that was stated positive terjangkit the bird flu virus. Now in Pekanbaru, the number of positive areas terjangkit the bird flu virus also increased. “This plague continued to spread although the alert I status the bird flu danger was determined by Riau” Governor”.” I hoped the community’s participation so that immediately destroyed his poultry or did not maintain the poultry completely di

The house, the headword of the Livestock Breeding Service Riau Marzuki Husin to the Indonesian Media in Pekanbaru, on Saturday (18/11). The six regencies/the positive city this bird flu was the Pekanbaru City, Dumai, the Siak Regency, Bengkalis, and Rokan Lower. So, the Livestock Breeding Service carried out the anticipatory action by closing for the time being the distribution route of the poultry to this region. “We also dropped the team from the Province that was assigned to carry out investigation produced by the report on the death of the sudden chicken off.” The team also was assigned to carry out the co-ordination in an effort to the extermination of the poultry that his region was stated positive terjangkit bird flu, said Marzuki. Resulting from bird flu, Disnak carried out the extermination of thousands of poultries. The “certain figure still could not be revealed by me.” But that clear the amount reached thousands of tails, he said.
-snip-
In the meantime, the Pekanbaru Health Service did not yet find the existence of the patient suspect bird flu in several community health centres that were alerted.
“To this, we did not yet accept the report on the existence of the patient suspect bird flu from several community health centres that were alerted, the” headword” of the City of the Health Service Pekanbaru Syaiful Rab.

TPTB 8-l – at 12:19

Michelle in OK – at 11:23

Commonground – at 11:46


WE ARE WATCHING

JWB – at 12:25

Sorry…

…I couldn’t resist…..8-D

MaMaat 12:26

JWB, LOL!!!

pugmom – at 20:09

Michelle at 11:19---Geez, you don’t have to apologize for something I have done a hundred times myself, but thanx anyway. Having such courteous people on this thread, people that really care about not offending, is what has kept me here.

Olymom – at 23:25

Thank you, guys, for your sustained efforts. I am so amazed and grateful

Olymom – at 23:29

Thank you, guys, for your sustained efforts. I am so amazed and grateful

Michelle in OK – at 23:31

Hi all. I’m glad the news was slow today. JWB, very funny.

19 November 2006

Pixie – at 00:04

Wawako the Claim Dumai Free Bird Flu

Friday, November 17 2006 / Metro Riau / http://tinyurl.com/yd5esb

DUMAI - the Representative of the Mayor (Wawako) Dumai, Dr H Sunaryo denied that this city was including the positive area infected by bird flu (avian influenza).

“Dumai not including the positive area bird flu, in other words this city was free from the virus avian influenza,” said he to the reporter, disela-gap ended the Socialisation agenda of the pornography danger and pornoaksi, on Thursday (16/11) in Dumai. He denied the Section Head’s statement the Riau Health, Dr Taswin Yacob ended attended the meeting of the control co-ordination of bird flu diruang Setdaprov Riau, that Dumai including one of the seven areas in Riau that positive bird flu.

Wawako personally was the Chairman Tim the Control of Dumai City Bird Flu. He said, Dumai not including the positive area bird flu not without because. “At this time the poultry that came from outside the city, was not easy to enter Dumai if not bringing the complete document,” said he. According to him the official of the post in the area of the border will not permit this poultry to enter the Dumai City if without the condition. “This has been begun since last 2005, to be precise after this virus could enter the Dumai City.”

The poultry vaccination belonging to the citizen also still was continuing to be carried out by the official of Dumai City livestock breeding of the Service, to in stages carry out the vaccination and to spray the liquid disinfektan to the poultry pen belonging to the citizen, explained he. Added Sunaryo, till at this time was good the Health Service and the Livestock Breeding Service had never gotten the existence findings of the citizen’s poultry that died because of bird flu. “So if being not found by the existence of the case of bird flu in the Dumai City, how could in said Dumai positive bird flu,” accused he.

Pixie – at 00:19

TWO SUSPECT BIRD FLU in Padang NOW the NEGATIVE

18/11/2006 12:27 - the Indonesian Archipelago/Metro Siang / MetroTVNews / http://tinyurl.com/qyxrx

Padang, West Sumatra: two patients suspect bird flu that was treated in the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) Muhammad Jamil, Padang, West Sumatra was for the time being stated by the negative terjangkit the bird flu virus (Bird virus flu). Two patients that is Superior Eka the son, 11 years and Muhammad Ripandi, 2.5 years. Although being stated the negative and his condition were increasingly good, both of them were still being treated in isolation space. The hospital side also still was waiting for results of the second test that was carried out in the Department’s laboratory of the Health, Jakarta.

Pixie – at 00:23

The SALE of the CHICKEN in Pekanbaru descended DRASTIC

19/11/2006 08:05 / Metrotvnews.com, Pekanbaru: / http://tinyurl.com/qyxrx

Spread him rumours of bird flu in the Pekanbaru City, Riau had an impact on the decline in the level of the sale of chicken in this province. The traders claimed to be the decline in the sale turnover has been felt since a last week along with the discovery of the case of bird flu. This condition was seen in the Market of Kodim Pekanbaru. The sale of the chicken in this market descended through to almost half of the usually. In the normal condition, the trader could sell 40–50 kilogram per his day. The price of chicken also took part in descending around Rp 2,000 per kilogram him. Saw this condition, the traders appealed to the citizen so that not frightened of buying the chicken because the chicken that was sold received the check-up beforehand. The government of the Riau Province personally up to now takes part in anticipating the spreading of bird flu by doing the extermination of the poultry in seven regencies and the city.

Commonground – at 06:42

http://tinyurl.com/yflf2z
Riau Province
Pekanbaru — MIOL: the Section Head the Health of the Riau Province, Dr Taswin Yacob stated that bird flu has in the Pekanbaru City entered the Extraordinary Case phase (KLB). The “KLB status bird flu has for Pekanbaru been determined since November 12 2006 or coincided with the National Health Day 42nd by the government of the Riau Province,” said Taswin, in Pekanbaru, on Sunday. According to him, the KLB determining the bird flu only for the Pekanbaru City, whereas for the Riau Province the status of the illness was still being Alert I. He said, in the Pekanbaru City was approximately seven from 12 subdistricts that were positive terjangkit the virus H5N1, among them the Subdistrict Rumbai the Coast, the Umbrella Very Much, Sukajadi, Senapelan, Sail, the Anchor Just was East and the Appropriate Subdistrict. Whereas for the level of the province, there is around seven from 11 regencies/the city that has been stated positive terjangkit the bird flu virus. It was further that he, although Pekanbaru has been maintained as the KLB area bird flu, but until at this time this virus not yet there are those that arrived at humankind. According to him, was based on the inspection since last 2005 against eight people that terindikasi was attacked by the bird flu virus, produced results of the negative, they not was attacked by the virus H5N1. So that this Virus does not spread still more areas again, the side Dinkes the Riau Province compiled the procedure continue to (protap) about the conduct of the handling of the patient who was infected H5N1. Protap, said he, it was hoped could be undertaken well by all the official of the health from the level of the centre to the level of the district. The procedure that has been appointed that covered, the official’s vigilance towards the discovery of the death of the poultry suddenly disuatu the area, did monitoring for 20 days against the citizen that his area terjangkit H5N1 as well as did surveiland the health to the community in the area terjangkit or not. Moreover, continued Taswin, the official of the health must immediately give medicine tami flu to the community that terindikasi was attacked by the bird flu virus when has done pemerikasaan blood as well as the clinical test against the patient by means of finding out the story of contact with the poultry. Added by him, the community must also understand clinical signs if being attacked by the bird flu virus, among them, the fever body was accompanied with the cough and breathless. Moreover, said he, the community was also required to clean waste of the poultry that adhered to the pen as well as immediately brought the poultry that was owned to divaksin to the official of the health of the closest animal. ‘’‘It was further that he, if being found the poultry died disuatu the area, better the community immediately burnt this poultry, but did not have buried him, because of being worried eventually the area will become the endemic territory bird flu. “If having the death of the poultry suddenly in an area, better in a radius of 100 metre or ideally one kilometre, the poultry must be in this area destroyed’‘’,” he said.

Theresa42 – at 12:29

toggletext-ed from Indonesian:

600 Tonne Livestock Flour was kept, 30 Kontener the Bird Flu Virus

On Sunday November 19 2006, the Hour: 21:09:00

Tanjung Priok (Pos Kota) – Thirty kontener containing 600 tonne flour of livestock food from cattle bones (MBM), that terjangkit the mad cattle illness from Spain, was kept Duty apparatus and the Duties (BC) the Tanjung Priok service office II.

Warned this livestock food also contained the virus H5N1 the cause of bird flu.

The section head the Prevention and Investigation (P2) the service office of BC Priok II Syaefullah Nasution said to 30 kontener was informed in the document as PMM (Poultry Meat Meal) livestock food from the poultry in order to be able to enter Indonesia. However after being done by the inspection labolatorium evidently came from MBM (Meat bone meal) livestock food came from cattle bones that contained mad cattle.

Thirtieth kontener this was sent by three stages by his sender’s company namely PT Protenas Y Grass Gimeno SL from Spain and the recipient in Indonesia PT EBP. The first Transport made use of the Maersk Pembroke Voy ship 0615 totalling 10 kontener, following mV Maersk Pembroke 0617 sebenyak 10 kontener and finally on October 6 menggunak Maersk Pembroke Voy 0623 totalling 10 kontener.

The material loss according to Syaeful not so, because this product was not put on the import duty. However that more dangerous that is from the aspect of the health because apart from could spread the mad cattle illness, this MBM was also pointed out strong at containing the virus H5N1 namely the disseminator’s virus of bird flu.

“Kami want to prevented and menyelematkan many people, therefore although having the assumption from the official of quarantine that the livestock food of PMM continued to be kept by us and evidently true contained MBM,” further Syaeful.

Protected by the ELEMENT

In The Meantime, the Chairman Aspidi Thomas Sembiring said this case already that umpteenth the time. Surprised him still the determined importer sent MBM to Indonesia. Because of this, he suspected had the element of quarantine that supported the sending activity of this livestock food.

Because, beforehand already 278 kontener MBM that was arrested by the official of the Duty and the Duties in the re-export (was returned again) to the origin country, but this product was still continuing to flood Indonesia.

So, Thomas asked to this problem police apparatus took part in investigating and catching the perpetrator importer MBM, because of this not the small case but was related to the safety of the Indonesian community especially bird flu.

http://www.poskota.co.id/news_baca.asp?id=27228&ik=6

Commonground – at 12:43

12:29: We don’t stand a chance of this not going pandemic.

Influentia2 – at 13:20

12:43 CG It is nothing but greed that will get us there too IMO.

Because, beforehand already 278 kontener MBM that was arrested by the official of the Duty and the Duties in the re-export (was returned again) to the origin country, but this product was still continuing to flood Indonesia.

Mary in Hawaii – at 16:38

Commonground at 12:43. “We don’t stand a chance of this not going pandemic.”

I hear you. I am giving a little talk to my immediate neighborhood this afternoon regarding prepping for a potential pandemic. One thing I want to tell them - as they are all “common folk” and will surely ask - is what the odds are that this will go pandemic. They will want to hedge their bets, as they are low income with difficult choices to make. If the odds are high enough, they will set aside the purchase of other things to prepare, but if it’s like a one in ten chance, they’ll probably not do it. I don’t want to lie, even accidentally, and have them spend money they can ill afford to prepare for something that may never happen. But surely it is at least 50/50 by now, isn’t it? I find it odd that no one is willing to say - not the experts, nor anyone on flu wiki - what the growing odds are that this will turn into a pandemic. Given all the different ramifications (ongoing and increasingly serious mutations, lack of transparency in reporting, difficulty in accurate testing of suspect cases, and this latest little glitch - poultry bone meal infected with H5N1 for use as livestock feed?????) - I would really appreciate feedback from flu wiki members on what the probability truly is that this will go pandemic this year.

Jane – at 16:47

One slogan for uncertainty is Prep what you eat and eat what you prep. Then it won’t go stale, even if it doesn’t happen this year.

Another thought is, can you afford to have an empty pantry? Won’t it drive you nuts to know that you could have been ready but didn’t do it?

It seems like 50/50 to me, too.

NWF gal – at 17:11

Mary at 16:38

This was posted by Snowhound1 (I think) on the “share your knowledge” thread. Dr. Webster says 50/50 chance

Did anyone see this vidoe on ABC recently? It is a fairly long piece with Dr. Webster, and I found it two days ago from an article on NewsNow from ABC and this link was on that page. I have sent it to several “loved ones” in the last few days..Dr. Webster says he is prepping for three months and people can’t imagine something that could kill 50% of the population. Not, 50% of those infected…I think it is worth seeing and especially good to send out to people who are still “oblivious” to the real dangers of a pandemic stemming from H5N1.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=1725519

Okieman – at 17:14

Theresa42 – at 12:29

There is something fishy about the article about bone meal have both “mad cow disease” and bird flu present. I just cannot see this being so. Was there something lost in the translation? I don’t know. But I would be hesitant to use this info in any presentation Mary in Hawaii until more is known. This will make the mainstream media if it is mad cow and bird flu. I suggest a wait and see stance on this one.

Grace RN – at 17:20

Okieman – at 17:14 Theresa42 – at 12:29

“There is something fishy about the article about bone meal have both “mad cow disease” and bird flu present. I just cannot see this being so.”

I agree-it sounded fishy to me. Perhaps it’s a way to place the ‘blame’ for their problems with H5N1 elswhere?

Commonground – at 17:25

Okieman - at 17:14, if you go to the Indo thread at CE, you will see a few links I posted from ProMed. There was no BSE in Spain in ‘06. The PMM could contain H5N1, it’s ground up chicken bones and such. Right? We will never know where the PMM is coming from.

Mary in Hawaii - I really wouldn’t try to give anyone an estimate. I think it has to be a personal decision. I remember when I first started learning about H5N1 in February of this year. I questioned myself. So I decided to back to the very first page at CE, and see what the folks were discussing. Same thing. They felt it was going to arrive any time. Although I do feel the latest developments puts us much closer to a pandemic. I wish you luck with your neighbors. I am a homemaker, with a HS education, so I really can’t give you an educated guess. Just a personal guess, from what I have learned. I feel it may hit this winter season.

Okieman – at 17:26

The only way I can see a shipment of bone/meat meal having “mad cow” and bird flu is if a very unethical buyer on the global market purchased mad cow contaminated bone meal and also purchased bird flu infected poultry (culls) to make meat meal, then mixed it together to be sold bulk. Much speculation, but that is the only way I can see it happening. Otherwise, someone is making this up for political or financial reasons.

Grace RN – at 17:33

RE: the Webster vidoe-it says it was 8 years since the virus was found in China. I’m assuming that they are referring to the intital outbreak in Hong Kong which puts the video date to 2005.

Dr Dave – at 17:39

Mary in Hawaii,

I agree with Commonground that it may hit this winter (opinion, not science), but I am prepping like it may hit next week. Apart from the documented cases in Egypt and Indonesia, how may people were buried or cremated before lung tissue samples were taken? Nobody knows. How far are we into the pandemic? Nobody knows.

Influentia2 – at 18:46

Mary in Hawaii,

FWIW I feel no one knows when it will happen.

We prep what we eat and eat what we prep also. Another thing we do is donate part of our preps to the local food banks as we rotate, we feel that the food banks can always use some help. Whenever we do discuss prepping among co-workers or friends and neighbors we always mention to them that the food banks can always use what the prepper doesn’t use. Since we started prepping we have always said that if we are prepped and this pandemic does not happen we will not have to buy groceries at the higher prices for awhile and the food banks will get another donation. IMO get prepared, go live your life and do all the things you enjoy while you can.

Michelle in OK – at 19:20

Hi all. Thank you, Dude, for posting the latest spreadsheet. I incorrectly dated it as 11–17 (it should have said 11–18 to correlate with Okieman’s new map.) There were no additions to the spreadsheet between the two dates.

The spreadsheet is here: ftp://www.singtomeohmuse.com/

Theresa42 – at 19:43

Okieman – at 17:14 — There is something fishy about the article about bone meal have both “mad cow disease” and bird flu present. I just cannot see this being so. Was there something lost in the translation?

Well, unfortunately I can’t answer that ‘cause I don’t speak Indonesian (yet!) — just know how to work toggletext. ;)

I had a similar thought to GraceRN — that maybe this was just an attempt to pass on the blame for H5N1 in Indonesia — who knows?

Then again, maybe the poultry bone-meal came from a country known to have bf (China, for instance?) on a ship registered in Spain. ?? All spec on my part. Definitely a strange story.

Mary in Hawaii – at 20:01

Thanks everyone for your advice. My neighbors are largely poor and uneducated (I live in rural Hawaii.) In case I can’t convince them to buy their own supplies, I have decided to stock excess rice (fairly cheap here) and give it out to them if the need arises. It’s not much, but would keep them alive. Can’t see letting little kids starve just because their parents weren’t able or willing to prepare. It’s pretty much a matter of my own survival to convince them to stock up too…they could run me out of my meager stores in no time. We are, for better or worse, in this together I’m afraid.

Klatu – at 21:18

The Doctor should not be the Seller’s Agency of Medicine,

RS might not refuse the Patient on the basis of Anything

November 18, 2006 at 08:37 AM

“Medan (SIB) Health Minister Dr Siti Fadilah Supari asked the doctors to have to not become the seller’s agency of medicine that his work gave.

The use recommendation of certain medicine to the patient. Therefore that caused problems for the medicating community because of must buy the relative medicine more expensive.

The ban was arranged in the Bill about Kerumahsakitan that at this time was discussed by the government in this case the Department of the Health and DPR RI in Jakarta.

The matter of the improvement of the mechanism of the maintenance further Menkes, in this BILL also was arranged, the hospital side might not refuse the patient on the basis of anything.

“Dalam the same BILL was arranged by firm sanctions against the hospital that kedapatan refused.’

- excerpts

http://www.hariansib.com/content/view/17317/1/

20 November 2006

pugmom – at 00:27

I have read so many articles out of Indo that tell of the villagers flooding into the clinics to get the Tamiflu that is being passed out to them. There is something incongruous here---when alot of us have traipsed into our family doctors and asked to get conditional Rx’s, only to be rebuffed. I daresay that the Indos, at this point in time, have more access to protective Tamiflu than the lot of us here in this country. We are told that we can’t have it as then there would not be enough for the rest of the world/country when the PanFlu comes and it is really needed. Well, I guess not, as it is being used up for that “blanket” strategy---and that strategy is probably seriously flawed as far as ever really containing the upcoming viral holocaust.

MaMaat 04:36

toggletext from… http://www.mediaindo.co.id/berita.asp?id=116998

RSHS More the Handling Implement of Flu Burung

Bandung — MIOL: To make the maintenance of the bird flu patient effective, the Handsome Sadikin Hospital (RSHS) Bandung, West Java (West Java) increased health facilities, among them the ventilator and several implements monitoring blood pressure and the temperature of the sufferer‘s body. The chairman of the team of the control of the bird flu virus of RSHS Bandung Hadi Jusuf, on Monday (20/11), said the increase in special health facilities of the handling of bird flu was also meant in order to be able to handle the number of patients in large quantities. “The number of ventilators (the implement to help breathing) that earlier only two units currently improved to four units, as well as how many monitor implements, like to monitor blood pressure, the temperature of the body and the organ of the patient’s body that the possibility was attacked by this virus.” Therefore, the handling against the bird flu patient would berjalan

More effective, said Hadi. Moreover, RSHS also increased the medicine yag was needed, like tamiflu and antibiotik. “Stock of the medicine (tamiflu and anti biotik) for the handling of birds still was available.” The matter of the medicine did not have the problem, but that most important that is the special health equipment for the handling of the bird flu patient, he said. Apart from RSHS, Hadi said in Bandung also was gotten two hospitals that also handled the flu patient brung, that is the Hospital and Boromeus of the torch Routine, by the regional public hospital (RSUD), like Garut, Cirebon and Ciamis. “Although facilities in this hospital were not as complete as RSHS, at least the control could be breakingprep early carried out,” he explained.

Klatu – at 15:02

Nice catch MaMa!

pugmom – at 18:42

More places in Riau. dated 11–21–06. http://tinyurl.com/y9hfak

Tim the Health of the Animal of the agricultural Service (Distan) the Pekanbaru City descended to four places to check the report on the citizen concerning the death of the chicken suddenly, on Monday 20/11. From this verification, one including having the indication terjangkit bird flu that is in the Rhu Cape District close to the Duku River Port. In this place, Tim Distan carried out the operation against the chicken that was found was sick and was found by the bleeding dibagian the digestion that was the typical characteristics of the poultry was infected by Bird Flu. Kasi the Health of the Animal of Distan Pekanbaru, Muhammad Paradise to Riau the Post, on Monday (20/11) said, that towards results of this operation, was the same as the characteristics that were found in Okura, the place that beforehand against his chicken also was carried out by the operation and was proven to be positive bird flu used Avian influenza of the Test Virus (Aivit)….

But, was seen from his characteristics after being done by the operation, indeed terjangkit the bird flu Virus, said Paradise…..

pugmom – at 18:58

‘’‘New Case in Padang, West Sumatra. name of Strong, age 10 months old. dated 11–21–06. (note: it makes you wonder abut the 2 “negatives” they got out of Padang last week, ie grown on the correct culture?—also note that this new case and “Eki” are from the same village.)

Suspect Bird Flu improved in West Sumatra Padang, on November 21: the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) Dr M Djamil, Padang, West Sumatra, ‘’‘again treated a patient suspect bird flu. The patient had a name Strong, the citizen Nagari (the village) the Dareh River, the Island Subdistrict of the Pergola, the Dharmasraya Regency’‘’. The “patient was 10 months beforehand old was treated in the local community health centre because of being suspected of suffering the sign similar to bird flu.” His maintenance was afterwards continued in RSUD the Dareh River. However because of the limitations of equipment, his handling was reconciled to RSUD M. Djamil, the headword of the Dharmasraya Zulkarnain R Regency of the Health Service to the Indonesian Media, on Monday (20/11). According to Zulkarnain, the patient not necessarily terjangkit the virus avian influenza, only because of having the sign like the high fever, breathless and the cough. The other illness like the inflammation of the lungs then had the similar characteristics.

However to ascertain him, the handling of the patient was handed over to RSUD M. Djamil that had equipment that more complete. Before being sick, Strong was known once contact with the poultry. Parents of the patient were the poultry breeder that several of his chickens died suddenly in the Island Subdistrict of the Pergola some time before.

Strong was the patient suspect third bird flu in West Sumatra that was treated by RSUD Dr M. Djamil Padang. Beforehand, two patients suspect bird flu was from the Dharmasraya Regency and the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency that were treated in the hospital stated by the bird flu negative. The two patients that is Superior Eka the son, 11, the citizen nagari the Island of the Pergola, the Island Subdistrict of the Pergola, the Dharmasraya Regency, and Muhammad Ripandi, 3, the citizen of the Visible Ditch, the Subdistrict Kamang Just, the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency. According to Director RSUD Dr M. Djamil Suchyar Iskandar, results of the negative were obtained from results of the testing of the sample of the patient’s blood that was sent to the Hall of Health Research And Development (Balitbangkes) the Infection Hospital (RSPI) Sulianti Saroso Jakarta and the inspection by the team of the doctor RSUD Dr M. Djamil against mucosa mucus that was gotten to the nose and the throat of the two patients. RSUD Dr M. Djamil also carried out the testing of the sample of third blood to really ascertain both of them the bird flu negative….

pugmom – at 20:18

toggletext down??

Olymom – at 20:30

For Mary in Hawaii, on a separate thread Anon451 posted some mathmatical musings. He/she had done some work that suggested that 155 cases in a region over twenty days would be an important occurance — that posting came with lots of caveats — (viruses do not read math books), but I can see merit in the thinking even if I don’t see or understand the math that comes up with the numbers — we keep seeing a case here, two cases there — the most being 81 during the month of August. If we suddenly had 155 cases in the first half of December, that would be quite a different month.

So, I am telling my neighbors that I’m keeping an eye on the postings — they should prep for earthquakes and floods anyway (we’re in the Pacific Northwest) — but it could be really, really bad when it comes (am sorry that Katrina happened, but am grateful for all the news reporting — many now do realize that the troops don’t come racing in to help)

Hope this helps

pugmom – at 20:49

good idea—to keep your eye on the number of cases in the last 20 days!!

Michelle in OK – at 23:51

Indonesia Summary - Updated as of 11/20/06

Cases DiscussedJun-06Jul-06Aug-06Sep-06Oct-06Nov-06Total
Died, no test results22437321
Died, tested positive43233116
Other tested positive0131016
Symptoms, tests pending424638306126
Tested negative06252011264
Totals101480655113233

21 November 2006

MaMaat 02:27

Thanks Klatu!

And a huge thank you to Michelle in OK and Okieman for your excellent work with the Indonesian case summaries and maps. I know it’s a huge job and it’s really appreciated!

Commonground – at 08:14

New Patient? Anang, mentioned below Kediri — MIOL: the Kediri Regency, East Java (East Java) currently was stated as the territory endemi bird flu. Moreover the Government of the Kediri Regency maintained this area with the alert status of bird flu. The Animal section head the Regency Kediri I Ketut Widanan to the reporter, on Tuesday (21/11) explained the alert status of this bird flu was more meant as the form of the warning so that the Kediri citizen begins to guard against the bird flu threat. “Already many poultry that died and after being researched positive was affected by AI,” said I Ketut Widanan. To anticipate this problem the animal service with the Big Hall of Veteriner Yogyakarta (BBVJ) at this time was doing related field work the AI virus threat that turn off thousands of poultries. The determining of this status was carried out also as the form of the prevention because the sign of the AI virus could not be still known after being found the poultry must die but be it was known again earlier. At this time according to him had two subdistricts that became the object sample BBVJ namely the Kandat Subdistrict and Gampingrejo. Two subdistricts have been found by the AI case good that happened to the poultry. Moreover a person suspect bird flu namely Anang, the citizen Gampingrejo that also the student in SMK 1 Kediri City could be treated for two weeks in space of the patient’s isolation AI the Hospital Dr Soetomo, Surabaya. The data that was assembled by the Indonesian Media from the animal service local mentioned to wage war on this AI virus has been prepared by 950 thousand doses of the vaccine anti AI for the poultry especially the chicken. The procurement dozen this vaccine came from APBN that is 600 ribu

The vaccine the rest of them 350 thousand doses came from APBD the Kediri Regency and APBD East Java. Moreover was prepared also 375 litre the liquid desinvektan that was used as the sterilisation material of the pen of the citizen’s poultry. http://tinyurl.com/yl5qns

Commonground – at 08:33

Poultry Outbreak in Pandang, West Sumatra

Padang — MIOL: the Spreading of the virus avian influenza in the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency, West Sumatra (West Sumatra) spread. If beforehand only three subdistricts, Kamang Just, the Gadang Cape and IV Nagari, currently his spreading improves in two subdistricts, Sijunjung and Koto VII. The section head Livestock Breeding and Regency fisheries of Sawahlunto Sijunjung Said Alkhudri suggested, the area of the new spreading was in Nagari (the village) the lungs, and Muaro in the Sijunjung Subdistrict, Ranah Tibarau in the IV Nagari Subdistrict, as well as the Ampalu Cape in the Koto VII Subdistrict. The number of poultry that died suddenly as a result of the virus attack H5N1 that was recorded 7.100 tails. In the testing of the specimen of the poultry organ belonging to the citizen who died suddenly in Nagari Muaro, on Sunday (19/11), results showed the poultry was positive terjangkit the virus H5N1. To prevent increasingly expanded him the spreading, the Livestock Breeding Service and Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency fisheries carried out the vaccination and spraying of disinfectant. ‘’‘However Said Alkhudri complained about his agency the lack of the personnel to do the poultry vaccination. Because of doing the vaccination needed the special expertise’‘’. So as uptil now, to overcome the limitations of this personnel, the Livestock Breeding Service and Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency fisheries empowered the other official. The official was given by the practical training of the method vaccinated that true to the poultry. Spread him the bird flu virus in the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency started in six nagari in the Subdistrict Kamang Just. Kemudia spread to the Gadang Cape Subdistrict and IV Nagari. http://tinyurl.com/yaybf2

Okieman – at 08:36

MaMa – at 02:27

A big thank you should also go out to you and all the other newshounds. Ya’ll are doing the majority of the hard work. What is shown in the spreadsheet and on the map would not be possible without folks spending time to search out and translate the news. It is a team effort, with everyone doing what they can with the time, skills and resources availible to them.

Thank you.

Commonground – at 09:15

West Java - Bandung - No longer gives the allocation of BF vaccine in the 2007 Budget The service Pertanaian No Longer got the Allocation of the AI Vaccine The report on the Reporter Kompas Mohammad Hilmi Faiq Bandung, Kompas - in the budget year 2007, the Government of the West Javanese Province no longer gives the allocation of the bird flu vaccine for the Bandung Service of City Agriculture. So, the Bandung Service of City Agriculture asked for help of the Commission B Delegation’s Council of the People the Area of the Bandung City budget for in the budget of the income and the regional expenses (APBD) the change in the Bandung City in 2007. The representative of the Section Head Agriculture Ir Solehuddin said, in 2006 the West Javanese Provincial Government gave help of the bird flu vaccine 300. 000 doses. “Kami suspected during 2007 also got similar help. Evidently several days ago we received the letter that the requirement for the bird flu vaccine in the Bandung City no longer could diakomodir inside APBD the Javanese Province Barat,” Solehuddin words in the working meeting with the Commission of B DPRD the Bandung City, on Tuesday (21/11). So, Solehuddin asked for help of the B Commission in order to be able to put the budget of the procurement of the vaccine avian influenza (AI) that into APBD the change in the Bandung City the budget year 2007. Because, in the budget submission during 2007, the agricultural Service did not enclose the budget fund of the procurement of the vaccine. “Surat from the province came after the fund submission already we setorkan,” Solehuddin words explained. http://kompas.com/ - 21/11/2006 19:09 wib

Commonground – at 09:29

Dengue Fever in Bekasi City - some statistics at the end of article
[Comment: I don’t know what Region Bakasi City is in]
The Season transition, the Sufferer DBD Bertambah Bekasi, Kompas - the Patient of the sufferer of dengue fever dengue fever (DBD) that was treated in the regional Public Hospital of the Bekasi City, improved almost three fold times compared to last October. This condition was influenced by the season transition from dry entered rainy. The community was asked to be careful and activate eradication efforts of the mosquitoes nest and to carry out the step 3 M., that is drained, closed, and buried. Up until Tuesday (21/11), the patient DBD that was treated in RSUD the Bekasi City 20 people. Three among them the child’s patient. In fact, last October, the DBD patient in RSUD the Bekasi City seven people, including the child’s three patients. “Kalau the weather still as it is now, really is enabling the sufferer DBD bertambah,” Sutisna smoke words, public relations RSUD the Bekasi City, on Tuesday. Separately, the Section Head the Health of the Government of the Bekasi City of Bambang Djati Santoso said, the season pancaroba or the season transition is usually accompanied by the increase in several illness kinds, including DBD and fades defecated as well as diarrhoea. “Kami has monitored, and indeed had the rise in this month, but still could not be acknowledged as extraordinary by the incident (KLB) ,” Bambang’s words. “Biasa him, DBD will descend during the rainy season nanti” he said added. The Bekasi city had determined the KLB status for the DBD illness and bird flu last March. His article, the DBD sufferer had in the Bekasi City jumped high reached 924 inpatients three months, from January to March. At that time, the DBD case equitable happened in 12 subdistricts in the Bekasi City, was recorded highest in Bekasi East (285 cases), was followed by Rawalumbu (128 cases), and Bekasi North (110 cases). From 924 cases, eight including dying.
http://kompas.com/ - 21/11/2006 19:05 wib

Pixie – at 09:37

Commonground:

Bekasi City is in West Java, very close to Jakarta (just to the east of Jakarta). Just where we do not want to see dengue, a huge metropolitan area. http://tinyurl.com/yj3oaf

Commonground, I know you already know this but for those new to Toggletext-speak, when the news report says “improved” three fold times since last October, they mean that the number of cases has “increased” three fold times since last October.

Commonground – at 09:47

Thanks Pixie, I knew “improved” meant increased, but I keep reverting back to our meaning of “improved”. Thanks for the reminder!

pugmom – at 12:02

Citizens now banned from having contact with poultry in West Sumatra. Dated 11–22–06. http://tinyurl.com/tkdax (these are pretty desperate measures for a country where poultry is a way of life.)

FB in West Sumatra, the Citizen was banned by Contact with the Padang Poultry, on November 22: the Community was in the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency and the Dharmasraya Regency, the West Sumatra Province, asked to not carry out direct contact with the chicken poultry, following the death 13. 000 tails of the chicken poultry in the area. Because from results of the research, thousands of poultries there positive bird flu, was attacked by the virus avian influence (VAI). The section head the Health of the West Sumatra Province, Rosnini Savitri, raised that, on Tuesday (21/11) in Padang. “Around 13.” 000 tails of the chicken poultry that died in Sawahlunto Sijunjung and Dharmasraya positive was caused virys avian influence. Therefore, the community was appealed to to not direct contact with the poultry, he said….

The sample of the patient’s blood that was expected suspect bird flu has then been sent, and results of the research to negative humankind. So be not found by us the existence of the spread of the bird flu virus to the chicken poultry to humankind in this area, he said.

pugmom – at 13:19

More info on the patient named “Strong” reported on last night. Dated 11–21–06. http://tinyurl.com/yljwyu

Metrotvnews.com, Padang: the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) Muhamad Jamil, Padang, West Sumatra, Ahad (19/11), again treated a patient was 11 months that were expected old terjangkit the bird flu virus. Rigidly, the patient that came from the Village of the regional River, the Island Subdistrict of the Pergola, the Regency Dharmas Great, Subar, this is currently treated in isolation space since Ahad the night with the hot sign high, breathless, and the flu cough. The doctor also took the sample of the patient’s blood to be researched in Jakarta. Strong was expected tertular the virus from the poultry. Was based on his parents’s information, there were several tails of their chicken died suddenly. Strong was the patient suspect third bird flu in RSUD Muhamad Jamil. Two other patients were Superior Eka the son, 11 years and Muhammmad Ripandi, 2.5 years. Now this both of them were stated by the bird flu negative. However, both of them were still being treated in isolation space, was waiting for results of the inspection Laboraotorium the Department of the Health in Jakarta.

pugmom – at 13:24

And Liputan now reporting on the case: dated 11–21–06. also reporting that Ripandi and Eka are home now. http://tinyurl.com/yllq7s

Liputan6.com, Padang: A patient that was expected terjangkit bird flu was brought to the M. Jamil regional Public Hospital, Padang, West Sumatra, on Tuesday (21/11). The baby was 13 months old was treated because hot his body did not descend for three days. The hospital side did not yet confirm the patient was positive bird flu. However the patient had been touching with the chicken died near his house. In November this was recorded by three assumption patients of bird flu was treated in RSUD M. Jamil. Two finally was Superior Eka the son, 11 years, and Muhamad Rivaldi, two half of the year, experienced the high fever was accompanied by flu that resembled the sign avian influenza. The condition had been experienced by the two patients since dozens of tails of his neighbouring chicken died suddenly. Currently, they have been permitted to come home read: two Padang citizens were expected Terjangkit Bird Flu]. Currently, the West Sumatra Health Service determined two regencies, namely Sawahlunto and Dharmasraya as the affected area of bird flu….. As far as this is concerned Dinkes West Sumatra still could not also find the cause of the death of thousands of chickens [read: Thousands Of chickens died Suddenly in Dharmasraya and Sawahlunto].

Pixie – at 20:08

Relations Indonesian-AS the Government was asked to follow up the Meeting by Bush Moelok indigo

22/11/2006 02:47 / Liputan6 / http://tinyurl.com/y5tt26

Moelok Indigo and Wise Merciful, two from nine leading figures who were invited as the discussions partner of George Walker Bush in the Bogor Palace, West Java, to urge the government immediately to follow up results of the meeting with this United States President.

Moelok Indigo and Wise Merciful asked the government immediately to make the agenda to menidaklanjuti results of the meeting with US President George Walker Bush. This was related help of the US Government as big as US$ 280′ million.

Moelok indigo hoped the government carried out the approach and drafted the exact program.

Influentia2 – at 21:17

http://tinyurl.com/y55g58

No update on the HCW’s in Karawang(at least not on any of my links), plenty out there about BeeGees at Jakarta Convention Center 11/20 (couldn’t resist) and this:

The case of Bird Flu, there was No replacement Fund of the Bandung Poultry, on November 22: the Head of the Sub- Service developed the program of the Service of City Agriculture Bandung Endang Sulistiowati said, the spreading of bird flu in the Bandung City reached 15 districts from 139 available districts. In fact during 2005 the spreading of bird flu only in two districts. To cut off the route of bird flu of the spreading link, the agricultural Service undertook the program vaksinansi that was carried out by three round times a year. “Bulan this entered the third round and has reached 40 persen,” the Chairman’s words of the Co-ordinator the Work of the Handling of Bandung Bird Flu of the Service of City Agriculture Ir Wise the Pledge MM. Moreover, held sosialiasisasi to the community about the danger and penecegahan bird flu. Up to now, the socialisation has included 90 percent of 139 districts in the Bandung City. During 2007, Wise words, the Pertanaian Service continue to will undertake vaksinansi in three rounds. Besides this, formed the cadre’s group penanggulangaan bird flu in the harmonious level of the citizen (RW). The cadre’s group was also given equipment that was needed, like the vaccination implement. Wise said, since 2005 his side put forward the fund talangan to the Bandung Mayor for the replacement of the poultry that was destroyed (depopulation). But, up to now was not yet given. “Banyak the citizen that waited compensation when depopulation happening. His provisions Rp 12.500 per ekor,” Wise words. Because of the limitations of this fund, if having the positive poultry bird flu was only carried out by depopulation in and around the pen, now the other poultry divaksin and was put into effect bio-skuritas. In fact, according to the true procedure, all the poultry in a radius of one kilometre must be destroyed if being found the positive poultry flu.

Pixie – at 21:24

Influentia2 – at 21:17: No update on the HCW’s in Karawang(at least not on any of my links), plenty out there about BeeGees at Jakarta Convention Center 11/20 (couldn’t resist)

Well, see there’s our proof that there’s not a complete news crackdown. :-)

Grace RN – at 22:01

Now how bad could things be in Indonesia if the BeeGees are performing….

pugmom – at 23:26

Well, isn’t one of their big hits “Staying Alive?” Might be apropos at this time in history.

22 November 2006

Influentia2 – at 06:13

Pugmom 23:26

Good One.

Pixie 21:24 Just a crack down on BF news :)

Grace RN 22:01 Maybe we should look to see who is playing Cairo and that may give us an indication of how bad things are in Egypt?

Commonground – at 06:17

I hope it’s not Simon and Garfunkel singing “bring over troubled water”……..lol!!!

Influentia2 – at 06:22

Halo Cg 6:17

Another good one!! Is that troubled water the Nile or chickens in the rivers or both?? Maybe I should check the entertainment sections more often??

Commonground – at 06:25

both! Have you been to the new site?

Commonground – at 06:26

Haven’t had enough coffee…..Post 06:17 should read…..”Bridge Over Troubled Water”……

Influentia2 – at 06:26

http://tinyurl.com/t24qb

CG

Why is this on newsnow today?? It is a year old???

Commonground – at 06:32

I’m thinking it is a year old because of this:

“At least four people have died of avian influenza in Indonesia and three others have been confirmed as infected but have either recovered or are still being treated.”

Wasn’t the Karo cluster in May?

Influentia2 – at 07:07

CG 6:32

Yes it was. I was just wondering why the rehash of that story is all. I noticed the nurse since I am looking for an update in the HCW’s in Karawang and then I saw the date.

Have you seen the last two posts here http://tinyurl.com/y4phpw

I guess this is the answer from my elected officials that never bothered to respond in the last two weeks to my emails regarding this subject.

Gotta go work my last half day, have a good Thanksgiving I may not make it back on here til Friday. That goes out to the rest of you newshounds and lurkers too!!!

Pixie – at 07:40

Have a great Thanksgiving Influentia2! I’ll be at home this holiday so I’ll help hold the fort down while you celebrate. Have a great day everybody and stay safe on the roads.

Grace RN – at 08:32

Influentia2 – at 07:07

I don’t know the reason, but Newsnow frequently posts old news.

pugmom – at 10:31

You guys are making me laugh and laugh and laugh! Cheers and happy gobble gobble day to all of you. PS—I will be news-searching today and tomorrow too, so if you are off to grandmother’s house, have a good time and don’t worry!

pugmom – at 11:15

CG: Well if Simon and Garfunkel give a concert in Egypt I think they would start off with “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, but they would surely end their concert with “The Sounds of Silence” (hello darkness my old friend……).

Commonground – at 11:34

Sounds of Silence……by Simon and Garfunkel……

“Fools” said I, “You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might teach you,
Take my arms that I might reach you.”
But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence.

Influentia2 – at 15:22

CG 11:34

Appropriate words. No I haven’t been to the new site. Have you?

Commonground – at 17:15

Yes, and it is really good. Fast. And today when I posted some Indo news, it got easier with the bolding feature. Like anything else, it gets easier the more you use it. Give it a try, and if you get intimadated, don’t give up. Go to the “What You Need To Know” link on the left side of the screen before you attempt to do anything. Have a great Thanksgiving Influentia2, Pugmom, Michelle in OK, Grace RN, Pixie, Okieman, MaMa, Olymom, Klutu, Mary in Hawaii, and anyone else I forgot!! :-)

Influentia2 – at 19:44

CG 17:15 I will go ask for the link and play. Just finished round one of my cooking. Happy Thanksgiving to all the above plus anyone else out there.

Michelle in OK – at 22:16

Hi all. Happy Thanksgiving to you, too.

MaMaat 22:25

Commonground and everyone else, Happy Thanksgiving to you all!

Goju – at 23:21

Gobble Gobble….. arrrggggg…thud… body drops.

Happy Thanksgiving.

23 November 2006

Influentia2 – at 07:46

On Thursday, November 23 2006 Semarang Again, Thousands Puyuh(quail) Positive was attacked by Flu Burung was destroyed In A Mass Fashion Demak - Thousands Of birds puyuh property of the breeder in the Demak Regency positive terjangkit bird flu. Finally, avian influenza (AI) was known attacked 800 birds puyuh belonging to Widodo (39) villagers Grogol RT 5 RW 3 Karangtengah subdistricts. As a result, the birds must be destroyed, on Wednesday (22/11). The assurance was received after the veterinary surgeon Sudaryanti, Kasie the Health of the Animal Subdin Livestock Breeding in the agricultural Service and Demak Food Endurance with the other official carried out the fast test (rapid test) against several poultries that were sick. From the fast test was known by birds puyuh that became the mainstay livestock of some Demak citizens, positive was attacked by bird flu. At that time also, was followeded by the mass extermination. Apart from birds puyuh, the official also asked Widodo to burn his livestock pens. Because, the pens were more unclean so as to be occupied by many viruses AI. for ‘each poultry that was destroyed, will be put forward by us money for the replacement to the Government of the Centre’, said Sudaryanti. In the period one month, in November 2006, at least was gotten by four cases of bird flu that infected birds puyuh. The incident covered three subdistricts, namely the Kebonagung Subdistrict, Wonosalam, and Karangtengah. The first time happened to the livestock belonging to Khamid, the citizen of the Village Mintreng the Village/the Kebonagung Subdistrict, on Tuesday (7/11). Totalling 1. 400 puyuh was destroyed after being known was affected by the virus AI. Afterwards on Wednesday (15/11), 1.381 puyuh belonging to Abdul Syakur villagers Botorejo, the Wonosalam Subdistrict, positive bird flu. Was not yet even a week, again was found 3.051 birds puyuh belonging to Sri Iryaningsih in the Village Mangunrejo the Kebonagung Subdistrict, positive AI. on last Wednesday, 800 birds puyuh belonging to Widodo, villagers Grogol, the Karangtengah Subdistrict, terjangkit this deadly illness. If seeing the series of the case, Sudaryanti believed, the spreading of the AI virus has in his area been serious enough. Moreover could be said, several endemic areas of bird flu. In the meantime, Widodo claimed only could submit found all puyuh him must be destroyed. For three raising years puyuh, he already twice his birds were attacked by the AI virus.

http://tinyurl.com/zhn6f

Influentia2 – at 07:55

Different paper, same story On Thursday, November 23 2006 Demak KLB Burung Flu Demak-Case of the sudden death of birds puyuh resulting from the virus attack avian influenza (AI) in the Demak Regency, Central Java, for the last three days increasingly spread. At least three subdistricts were attacked by bird flu. That is, the Kebonagung Subdistrict, Wonosalam and Karangtengah. Sub the Service and Food Endurance of Livestock Breeding of the agricultural Service (Dispertan KP) the Demak Regency at once determined the case as the extraordinary incident (KLB) Bird Flu. The bird flu attack happened three days were endless to the different place. “So, the level of the spreading of this AI virus really in in no time,” said the veterinary surgeon Sudaryanti. According to Sudaryanti, results of the inspection very amazing. At least 7.700 kind poultries puyuh and dozens of positive chickens were attacked by bird flu after being done by the intensive inspection through the method rapid test (the fast test). In order to prevents the spread of the bird flu virus, the spreading link must be interrupted “So, to interrupt the chain spread him bird flu antarunggas that, we banned the entry of the mature poultry to the endemic village,” he said.

http://tinyurl.com/ydybth

Influentia2 – at 08:15

http://tinyurl.com/ymwzjk

I still cannot find an update on HCW’s in Karawang. The link above is WHO’s latest update, no mention that birds tested negative by Indo officials, only that birds died. I will try again tonight after the time change or early in the morning.

anon_22 – at 10:14
pugmom – at 16:22

FYI: Just checked Indo news and not much out there, so go back and eat more turkey!!

Bump – at 16:39

24 November 2006

MaMa- bump – at 04:59
Influentia2 – at 09:13

On Friday, November 24 2006 Semarang Grobogan Still was endemic Burung

 GROBOGAN

Flu - the case Emergence avian influenza (AI) in Godong was proof that Grobogan was the area that was not yet free from the endemic status of bird flu, although various government agencies, the social organisation (the mass organisation), and other all the time helped waged war on this case through the socialisation of cleaning sanitation of the pen, the environment, the livestock, and so on. Moreover, the breeder was then asked to continue to maintain the cleanliness himself before and after entering the chicken coop. Therefore, various elements of the community must be still waging war on AI by means of him was their respective, that important we could prove that in the future in this area no longer was found by the case of bird flu’, said Naryo (47), the breeder in Godong, yesterday. He claimed for a long time has raised small-scale in his house, but the cleanliness of the pen, the chicken, and his environment was really maintained. If ‘his chicken was healthy, certainly was not easy to be attacked by flu’, he revealed. He said, since 2003, this area was stated by the Livestock Breeding Service as endemic bird flu, because of the virus spread in most Grobogan areas. Moreover, this illness killed thousands puyuh, the poultry, and the other domesticated animal. However, in Grobogan, the virus had not attacked humankind. Although in Krangganharjo, Toroh, had been made an issue of by one of his citizens was affected by bird flu, but after blood was from this family checked through laborat the health in the Central Javan Health Service, evidently was not found by the indication was attacked by AI. Membenarkan

The section head Livestock Breeding and Grobogan fisheries, the veterinary surgeon the Leader Murdowo, confirmed, up until now his area is still endemic. However, his side with the related service and various elements of the community continued to wage war on the virus until not having again the poultry died was attacked. He said, all kades and the sub-district head got material enough of the UNICEF, the Livestock Breeding Service, the Health Service, and Bappeda concerning the control and early detection efforts. Currently, the sub-district head and kades remained menyosialisasikan arrive in the RT level, so as the citizen in villages knew true methods concerning the control of bird flu. His service with the intent Health Service cooked the movement obviously in the budget year 2007, among them through the very pure practice of the pen and the use disinfektan to avoid the virus. Moreover, the traditional breeder was asked to pen his chicken in the clean pen. http://www.suaramerdeka.com/

On Friday, November 24 2006 the Regional Government Immediately controlled Ayam Livestock Breeding Mojokerto - villagers’s Unrest Sekargadung, the Pungging Subdistrict, of the Mojokerto Regency resulting from the existence of the piece poultry farm, received the response from the Regent Mojokerto Achmady. This matter following was sent by him the letter protested from the worker PT Earth Water Mas the Indonesian Archipelago (BTN) and the citizen that felt objected to the poultry farm establishment without the permission. The “matter of the citizen’s complaint that was sent by PT BTN related the existence of this poultry farm, has been studied by us.” Today (yesterday, Red) I immediately ordered satpol PP to check his truth. If later indeed was found that these efforts did not pocket permission, better was controlled, said Achmady to the reporter. Moreover, explained Achmady, the Livestock Breeding Service was asked to take part in monitoring each kind of available livestock breeding in the Mojokerto Regency, especially being related to his health. Moreover the bird flu news indeed not yet fully could be avoided from the Mojokerto Regency. Separately, because of feeling his efforts were touched on, Fatchur, the owner of efforts of the chicken livestock in this Sekargadung Village, on Tuesday (21/11) immediately visited the side of PT BTN. he will clarify the matter of the objection that was sent perusahan the chemistry. The reason is, when the factory stood, among them also asked for Fatchur permission as the owner of the contiguous land with the location of the factory. “Now how come they made an issue of the livestock breeding,” he said. To be known, because of being regarded as disturbing, efforts of the piece poultry farm that stood in the area of Sekargadung Village rice cultivation, the Pungging Subdistrict, of the Mojokerto Regency began to be discussed by the citizen. That after this chicken coop spread the not delicious smell. Moreover, the worried citizen of the spreading of the virus suspect bird flu from this livestock breeding. Not only the citizen the concern evidently also was felt by the employees of the factory that his location was adjacent to this poultry farm. That is PT Earth Water Mas the Indonesian Archipelago (BTN), a chemical factory that had approximately 100 employees. “This not delicious smell almost every day was felt by the employee, we explained was disturbed,” said El Borneo, Personal Head PT BTN. According to him, livestock breeding has belonging to Fatkhur stood since the last three months. Moreover, some time before, there was the employee who entered the hospital because of being affected by the not delicious smell current. Moreover, was known that these poultry farm efforts without being equipped by official permission. The citizen and the company’s side felt the citizen and the company’s side had not been asked for by the agreement would the existence of livestock breeding efforts in his environment. Permission that was meant among them the Livestock Business Licence (SIUT), HO (the Disturbance of the Environment) and Amdal. Departed from this reality, the company’s side represented the local citizen deliberate sent the letter to the Mojokerto Regent dated last November 3.

http://tinyurl.com/y5ulpm

On Friday, November 24 2006 Unicef Seriusi the Problem of Burung Flu Blora - Approximately 7 million souls will it was estimated die was in vain in 2008 if the bird flu pandemic in Indonesia happening. Therefore, was needed by the comprehensive handling towards the plague of this illness. “One of them, we co-operated with the regional government as far as the level of the village to deal with expanded him the plague of bird flu,” said the cadet, Project Officer Unicef Central Javan Delegation in the official together dialogue agriculture, bappeda, the health service, the public relations part, and delegation of the member DPRD Blora in B DPRD commission space local. According to the cadet, the plague of bird flu currently still could not have been regarded crumbs by the community. Because, was proven claimed many lives of humankind. Unicef, continued he, who was an expert in the health of the mother and the child, really cared about the plague of bird flu. Because, the plague of this illness will be influential against asupan the nutrient, especially protein for children. “Banyangkan, if thousands were as far as millions of chickens destroyed, then the level of his loss will be extraordinary for the mother and the child.” We would the deficit hundreds tonne the useful egg for the development and the growth of the child, he said. Malnutrition, especially protein, continued he, would susceptible resulted in the illness for the mother and the child. He added, his side held the survey to areas in Central Java that susceptible was attacked by bird flu. Results, 13 regencies had the high risk was attacked by bird flu. Whereas Blora including in the risk was attacked by bird flu. Nevertheless, continued he, not meant Blora will be safe bird flu. For the prevention of bird flu in Central Java his side prepared the Rp fund 3,6 billion. “This fund from the donor agency.” Unicef only agencies advoksi, he said. Apart from the fund, his side will drop 11 personnel at each subdistrict all over Central Java to monitor the plague of bird flu off. In the meantime, the Blora agricultural Service stated that up to now Blora is still being safe from bird flu. This service will intensify spraying disinfektan in subdistricts. According to Kasubdin Livestock Breeding of the agricultural Service Blora Puspito, there were eight subdistricts in Blora that became his observation because of being found by the nonpedigreed chicken.

This service will intensify spraying disinfektan in subdistricts. According to Kasubdin Livestock Breeding of the agricultural Service Blora Puspito, there were eight subdistricts in Blora that became his observation because of being found by the nonpedigreed chicken and birds puyuh died suddenly. Eight subdistricts, Todanan, Kunduran, Ngawen, Jepon, Sambong, Randublatung, the Blora City, and Jiken. His side also asked for the community immediately reported to related sides when having the chicken that experienced the sign was attacked by bird flu.

http://tinyurl.com/y5ncyu

24/11/2006700 the Tail of the Divaksinasi Poultry CIMAHI, (GM). - As Many As 700 tails of the poultry in 4 territories in the Cimahi City were vaccinated, on Thursday (23/11). That was done to prevent the entry of the bird flu virus to the Cimahi City. Was like this it was said Kasi the Supervision of the Quality produced by Cimahi City Agriculture, drh. Suyoto to the reporter. The “vaccination this time was the second stage because of being worried in the beginning stage that was carried out just recently, still had the animal that not yet divaksin.” Afterwards, was worried also had the poultry that come from from outside, he said.

100 dosis

According to Suyoto, the vaccination against the poultry in the Cimahi City will be carried out in stages. During at this time, the available vaccine kind was H5N2. Stock of this vaccine was still being available, that is approximately 100 doses that were subsidised from the government of the province. “Our target towards the vaccination against this poultry, in the Cimahi City did not have a citizen then that tertular bird flu,” he revealed. He said, his side co-operated with an agency to handle the problem of bird flu in the Cimahi City. This co-operation took the form of giving of the training about the handling and the prevention of bird flu. “Uptil now, human resources (human resources) available to us was indeed limited.” So, we really responded to this activity. Help that will be given took the form of vaccination equipment, like clothes, etc.., including the vehicle, said Suyoto.

http://tinyurl.com/ymn9ho

Pixie – at 09:25

Casualties Suspect Bird Flu improved

24 November 2006 13:53 WIB / http://tinyurl.com/ssxzu / MediaIndio

Padang — MIOL: the Strong Condition, casualties suspect bird flu that was treated in the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) M. Djamil, Padang, West Sumatra (West Sumatra), began to improve.

The temperature of the body 10 months from Nagari (the village) the Dareh River, the Island Subdistrict of the Pergola, the Dharmasraya Regency, that has been normal. However he continued to use the infusion and still made use of the hose to eat. According to the Head of the Medical Service Field RSUD M. Djamil Padang Irayanti, setalah was done twice the blood test in RS Sulianti Saroso, Jakarta, results of bird flu of the negative. “We were still dripping blood one time more to ascertain his status.” On Friday (24/11) samples of his blood have been sent to Jakarta, said he, on Friday. As for from results x-rayed, Strong was stated suffered the Bronco illness pnomoni or the infection of the lungs. At this time he was still being treated in the IRNA C room the III floor, special isolation space suspect bird flu.

Whereas two patients suspect other bird flu that was treated in this hospital that is Superior Eka the son, 11, the citizen of the Island of the Pergola, Dharmasraya, and Muhammad Ripandi, 3, the citizen Kamang Just, the Sawahlunto Sijunjung Regency, has been returned because both of them the bird flu negative.

In the meantime, to combat the virus avian influenza that spread in Dharmasraya, the local government from Saturday (25/11) sprayed disinfectant in livestock breeding belonging to the citizen in a mass fashion for a week. Apart from spraying disinfectant, the government also supervised the area of the border to monitor the poultry and the model product that entered and went out this territory.

Pixie – at 09:26

Halo Influentia2 & good morning!

Influentia2 – at 09:28

Halo Pixie and good morning to you. Guess we aren’t shopping this AM?

Pixie – at 09:32

Comment: 2 New Cases? - also symptom of diarrhoea is mentioned (we just saw that symptom noted in the new NEJM article).

TANGERANG

Nov. 24 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/sp9ax / Liputan6

A Child was expected by casualties Burung Flu

Tangerang: One Of of the citizen’s children Ciledug, Tangerang, of Banten died after suffered hot high for three days. This child was expected tertular bird flu.

Moreover casualties’s older brother could be treated in the hospital because of the similar sign. However was based on the doctor’s inspection, the older brother was siblings that only suffered diarrhoea.

Pixie – at 09:38

Banda Lampung

Bird flu: needed Perunggasan Regional Regulations

23 November 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/yyzp6l

Banda Lampung (Lampost): For anticipated menyeruak him the plague of bird flu in Lampung was needed Regional Regulations that arranged the maintenance of the poultry animal, especially the chicken, that was done by the community. This matter menyeruak in the Road Show agenda and the Interactive Dialogue in the Socialisation [education] and the Control Campaign of the Plague of Bird Flu (Avian influenza) that was spread out in the Auditorium of RRI4 Banda Lampung, on Wednesday (22–11).

According to Asosiasi Breakingprep Peternak Breakingprep Ayam Nasional Vice Chairman, Agus Wahyudi, many communities maintained the poultry, especially the chicken, left him free to not roam about and get the vaccination. “Because, the chicken belonging to the community very susceptible was affected by the virus,” uja him.

He demonstrated the policy in the Bandung City, West Java. “There had the regulation that made the conduct maintain the dog.” If having the wandering dog in the road, will be shot dead because of being regarded as wild by the animal. This also that ought to be applied here for the poultry.

This proposal was welcomed a member DPRD the Lampung Province, the Goddess Amrah. He said will take part in considering the need of Regional Regulations discussions to anticipate menyeruak him bird flu. In the meantime, the Section Head Province Livestock Breeding Lampung Rustam Effendi said the spread of the bird flu virus in Lampung still could be controlled because of the spread not yet happening antarmanusia [antarmanusia = human to human]. And moreover through the National Movement crushed AI (the Bell) 2006 was carried out by the activity vaksinisasi mass and spraying of disinfectant in 10 regencies and the city more than one Lampung since March 2006.

crfullmoon – at 09:40

Influentia2, we don’t need no steenkin’ holiday shopping…. Good morning. (Pixie, too!)

Of the hot high breathless people that do not breathe out their last breath, what condition are they left in, mentally and physically, afterwards?

:-/

Pixie – at 09:49

Banda Lampung

 23 November 2006  /  http://tinyurl.com/y2jvjx  /  LampungPost

Dozens of chickens died Mendadak

Banda Lampung (Lampost): Dozens Of tails of the chicken in the Pomegranate Alley, Street Mangga I, RT 04, the Environment 3, Way Dadi, Sukarame, died suddenly for the last three days.

The worried citizen the chicken that died this was affected by the bird flu virus burnt the carcass of chickens. Muntoha (65), the citizen of the Pomegranate Alley, when being found, on Wednesday (22–11), said since three days terkahir his 18 chickens died suddenly. In “the last three days, my four chickens died.” Yesterday six tails, and earlier (yesterday, red) eight tails died suddenly, said he. The professional man as the pocket craftsman of the cement says generally his chicken it was known died in the morning. “Yesterday they were still eating as usual, but knew-knew his morning has died.” Anehya, if being one that died, and had the other chicken that approached, also immediately took part in dying. The sudden death, the origin canned be heard the sound gedubrak, must have the chicken that died, said he. According to him, the mouth and foot the chicken that died was blue.”First time died, his chicken I to the ditch.” But because worried is affected by bird flu, today I burnt my chicken, said he.

The similar matter was raised the Lamp (35), also the citizen of the Pomegranate Alley. “My chicken also died suddenly two tails.” His profit, I has sold almost all of my chickens. So, time had the plague, my chicken remained at a little, said the mother of two children. ‘’‘Apart from the chicken, he also maintained the goose. However, his goose was safe and was not affected by the illness. “Up until now his goose is still healthy,” said he’‘’.

The community around worried if the chicken that died suddenly this was affected by the bird flu virus.”I worried, here had the bird flu virus.” Moreover many people that maintained the chicken and was not penned, said he. So, the citizen ask for to related apparatus immediately checked the location and sprayed disinfectant so that the bird flu virus immediately vanishes.

Responded to the number of chickens died suddenly in the Way Dadi District, Sukarame, the agricultural Service and Banda Lampung City Livestock Breeding admitted to not yet accepting the report. The agricultural section head The section head Agriculture and Livestock Breeding, Zulhana Paita, admitted to not yet accepting this report. Nevertheless, his side immediately dropped the team of investigation off to know whether the death 30 chickens were positive bird flu. “This afternoon also, we would the direct cheque to the field.” Necessarily, like that got the chicken died suddenly, the citizen could direct lapor to the village head, the sub-district head or to the command post that indeed has been prepared by us in the service office. That definitely, we segara the cheque to the location, said Zulhana, on Wednesday (22–11). According to Zulhana, his side repeatedly appealed to the citizen immediately reported if finding the existence of the assumption of the case of bird flu. “Although in several places produced by the inspection laboraturium the bird flu negative, necessarily the citizen immediately lapor,” said he. Now, the Village Head Way Dadi, Syahrul, also did not yet know the existence of the citizen’s chicken that died suddenly. Nevertheless, he has been contacted by the agricultural Service and matter Livestock Breeding of the existence of this information. The “citizen indeed not yet lapor.” But, I segara did the cheque to the location. From the service personally indeed has contacted me to descend to the field, said he.

Whereas Kasubdin the Prevention and the Eradication of the Illness (P2P) the Banda Lampung Health Service, Dr. Indrasari Aulia said, the stage of the existence of the case of bird flu of the assumption inspection was begun from the agricultural Service and Livestock Breeding. If results of the positive inspection the existence of the virus afian influenza (AI), just the Health Service checked the health of the community around the territory that was attacked by bird flu. “That would we tangangi if having the citizen who was attacked by bird flu.” Usually, if positive AI Dinkes got the copy produced by the inspection laboraturium related the assumption of this bird flu, said he.

Influentia2 – at 09:56

crfullmoon 9:40

I wouldn’t go near town today, already reports of very unruly shoppers on the local news here. I would rather look for news.

Here is a snippet about Jones Ginting after he left the hospital:

The process of Jones repatriation was attended by Director RSUP H Adam the Owner Drg. Armand P Daulay, M. Cash, Giting rays public relations, SE, the co-ordinator treated inap suspect bird flu Dr. Adlin Adnan and the Chairman of the team of the handling of the case of bird flu of Prof. Dr. H. Luhur Soeroso as well as the nurse lai him that for two months gave the maintenance to Jones. So Jones was obliged in order to continue discipline underwent perobatan to RSUP Adam the Owner until kodisi his lungs recovered the total. So, Jones will be appointed to take medicine the road a week very much up until 6 length months.

I usually don’t see many follow-up stories about the cases.

pugmom – at 10:37

My Gosh—they are shooting dogs over there now! Reminds me of the “rabies” round-up in China. I guess they are saying that the dog shooting law has been around for awhile and that they ought to do the same thing for stray chickens. How many people in Indo keep their dogs locked up? How many keep their chickens locked up? I doubt very many. It just shows you the level of concern/panic if they are going to start shooting wandering chickens.

pugmom – at 10:43

PS—when you all move over to the new site and start posting articles over there, let us know, so we can follow you over there (and tell us how to get there too!). I don’t want to be the only one still posting here (laughing), but I also don’t want to be the first one posting over there either! (laughting).

crfullmoon – at 10:52

There’s already people over there posting, pugmom, don’t worry! :-)

Tell you how to get there should be in the New Forum thread; email DemFromCT and you can get registered (I even managed to change my machine-generated password to one I can remember, though I’m not very comfortable over there yet; I read both places now.)

I’m sorry people still have their animals wandering around; still do here in N.America too, despite the FAO guidelines, for lack of public education. Once people are sure there is a problem; things dropping dead, peoiple getting sick, it is too late. Better sanitation, and keeping animals separated, (and keeping pet cats indoors, and keeping dogs on leash and supervised to prevent cross-species contact, ect; people say it is too hard… well, so is having an out-of-control possibly-fatal disease situation…)

Michelle in OK – at 13:13

pugmom, I’m trying to check both here and in the new forum. I find it a little easier to specifically address articles over there. Also, I like being able to preview my response before posting.

Commonground & I have comments/replies there related to the article posted above by Pixie at 9:32. Should the location be Tangerang (and is that in West Java or Banten) or Ciledug (possibly on the border with Central Java.) The location may be important because of the two last positive’s from West Java.

The new forum Indonesia thread is [http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=119|here.]] You can read all you want, but to post comments, you’ll have to register by providing your e-mail address (to prevent spam). The system mails you a password immediately when you register.

25 November 2006

Michelle in OK – at 00:11

Indonesia Summary - Updated as of 11/24/06

Cases DiscussedJun-06Jul-06Aug-06Sep-06Oct-06Nov-06Total
Died, no test results22437422
Died, tested positive43233116
Other tested positive0131016
Symptoms, tests pending424638308128
Tested negative06252011264
Totals101480655116236

26 November 2006

Michelle in OK – at 18:21

A new Indonesia thread was started at the new site on Nov 26th. The link to the first thread is above at 13:13. The latest thread link is below.

It can be found here: http://www.newfluwiki2.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=274

Michelle in OK – at 18:25

By the way, if you see “n/t” after a 1 line bold print, it simply means someone typed in a subject line and there is No further Text input.

ANON-YYZ – at 21:40

20 deaths in Bangkalan, East Java

Story by pugmom at new forum

http://tinyurl.com/yjqlhk

27 November 2006

gharris – at 18:42

Is this a dumb question?? I have posted it on new forum as well - I am looking for the number of cases and number of deaths in Indo since 2006 ONLY which gives us the (?)76% CFR there - I see all the numbers, but it doesnt look like we break that out? or am I missing it?? math not my strong suit!!! :-))

DennisCat 19:58

total: Of the 74 cases confirmed to date in Indonesia, 56 have been fatal. 75.7% CFR

From WHO site: http://tinyurl.com/yk2r4q

in 2006 there where 55 cases of which 44 where fatal: 80% CFR

Bronco Bill29 November 2006, 16:43

long thread closed and continued here

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