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Forum: Newcastle Disease or Avian Influenza

12 October 2006

Wolverine – at 17:10

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6046266.stm

“Newcastle Disease Probe Launched

Government vets have started an investigation into a possible case of Newcastle disease in East Lothian. The Scottish Executive said there was no significant threat to public health from the affected poultry flock and no suspicion of an avian flu link.”

Sorry if the link isn’t direct, but does anyone have any more information regarding the situation in Scotland? It is concerning that they ruled out H5N1 seemingly without proving so conclusively.

Wolverine – at 17:15

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2006/10/12174109

Here’s the first news story on the above post.

Milo – at 18:24

I’ve heard of this, but don’t know enough about it to help.

Normally it’s better to post reports like this in the News Thread for the day (mostly just because having a lot of active threads gets confusing, and things slip down the list quickly and get lost — as this one did). If a story gets active and complicated enough, like the situation in India and Indonesia, then it gets its own thread.

Maybe Tom DVM or one of the other scientific types will notice this thread and be able to shed some light on the situation.

Wolverine – at 19:10

Just wanted to move this back up on the list. Sorry…I don’t have any new information to add. Still searching.

Tom DVM – at 19:32

Hi Wolverine and Milo

I am not a bird expert but I think that Newcastle Disease to lAvian Influenza in chickens is equivalent to Dengue Fever and pandemic influenza in humans.

One is often mistaken for the other. Both can result in sudden death with significant mortality in flocks with respiratory signs.

It seems to me that there are also issues of accuracy with the testing for Newcastles as well but it has been quite a while since I studied the disease.

It could very well be H5N1 and there preliminary tests will be followed up with postmortems and hopefully a definitive diagnosis will follow…Thanks for bringing it up.

seacoast – at 19:43

Tom ~

How are you feeling physically?

kencalif – at 19:53

I worked for the USDA in 1972 when there was Newcastle Disease in So Calif. It’s fairly common and they are probably pretty good at identifing it. Government workers killed off 12 million birds on poultry ranches in only about 4 counties in 72. If BF gets into commercial US farms I think it will get back into the mainstream news increase personal and government prepping. Ken

Tom DVM – at 20:19

kencalif. Thanks. Any help you can give us with this stuff would be greatly appreciated. We don’t as yet have a hands on expert in avian diseases on flu wiki. We might have one but he chooses to stay on the sidelines.

Seacoast. I am feeling better. I have had a lot of help from my colleagues on flu wiki that have been a God-send and I now also have a physician who has done some testing which I have not got the results back from yet.

It appears that I have a condition called Adrenal Exhaustion…it seems there are no diagnostic tests to prove it…and lifestyle changes seem to be the overall solution (it is similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome)…so I am going to have to give up some things in my diet…like too much sugar, too much caffiene and white flour etc.

I knew from the start that everyone on flu wiki was highly intelligent (honestly)…and I have benefited as a result…wasn’t quite what I expected to happen when I made that first and only post last February.

I hope all is well with you and yours…if you ever need help just whisper it on flu wiki and it will be there…and thanks again for asking.

kencalif – at 20:33

I was just a ranch guard, then ranch guard supervisor during that time. I was raised on a turkey ranch. It’s not uncommon to have to vaccinate commercial farms against some disease. Ken

seacoast – at 22:04

Tom ~ Well you can live with a little less white flour, sugar and caffene. Now here is the big question…can you still have a few drops of Whiskey?? I am relieved, I thought you were having heart problems. Once you balance your blood sugar your will feel even better…and go and practice your fishing skills on your lake this weekend and enjoy the crisp Candian air.

seacoast – at 22:06

Canadian caffeine ?

Wolverine – at 22:46

Tom DVM – at 19:32

Thank you for the update. That’s about what I was able to learn through my research. The situation bears monitoring. Let’s see what the verdict turns out to be.

Tom DVM – at 23:18

Seacoast. Thanks. I went fishing last weekend with my daughter…as last weekend was the time when Canada celebrates Thanksgiving…when the water gets too cold the fish get sluggish and won’t bite what you are offereing them…but we had fun anyway.

I had a stress test…my heart is normal…three months ago I was running several times a week. I kind of thought it was blocked arteries too.

If you want to know the truth, I had mono (EBV) in University and learned to love Canadian caffiene but don’t really drink very much whiskey…doesn’t work well when you are on call 24 hrs. a day for twenty years.

Anyway, Thank you for your concern…maybe we can really get lucky and skip to the post-pandemic reunion without the bother of the pandemic first. /:0)

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