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15 October 2006

temp man – at 10:47

I was poking around www.sss.gov after posting a rumour to the rumour thread and found this little tidbit on the US Selective Service site.

MEDICAL DRAFT IN STANDBY MODE

The Health Care Personnel Delivery System (HCPDS) is a standby plan developed for the Selective Service System at the request of Congress. If needed it would be used to draft health care personnel in a crisis. It is designed to be implemented in connection with a national mobilization in an emergency, and then only if Congress and the President approve the plan and pass and sign legislation to enact it. No portion of the plan is designed for implementation in peacetime. If implemented, HCPDS would:

Provide a fair and equitable draft of doctors, nurses, medical technicians and those with certain other health care skills if, in some future emergency, the military’s existing medical capability proved insufficient and there is a shortage of volunteers.

Include women, unless directed otherwise by Congress and the President.

Draft a very small percentage of America’s health care providers into military service. Impact on the availability of civilian health care would be minimal. Those health-care workers whose absence would seriously hurt their communities would be deferred on the basis of community essentiality.

Begin a mass registration of male and female health care workers between the ages of 20 and 45. They would register at local post offices. HCPDS would provide medical personnel from a pool of 3.4 million doctors, nurses, specialists and allied health professionals in more than 60 fields of medicine.

Require minimal training for HCPDS draftees, because they are already skilled personnel.

http://www.sss.gov/FSmedical.htm

Me? I just love the Name. Health Care Personel Delivery Services. Kind of like Fed Ex. Docs on demand.

Bird Guano – at 11:17

Impact on the availability of civilian health care would be minimal ?

That’s a COMPLETE joke.

The US healthcare system is teetering on collapse NOW.

crfullmoon – at 12:03

(“No portion of the plan is designed for implementation in peacetime.”

How handy- the US administration can already say we are not “in peacetime”.)

If there is an influenza pandemic, every community would essentially need everyone (and I don’t want them to all get sick and die, either; some should be held in reserve for after, or we’ll have no trained “modern” health care, which we about can’t have without drug/equipment imports, anyway).

Telling the public clearly what the concern is, and telling households and communities they have to make getting ready to cope a priority, would lessen the number of people who become part of the problem. (Keeping the grid up, so places got electricity a few hours a day for the duration would help, too).

Grace RN – at 12:36

Could this be referring to medical people who ‘retired’ out of their miliatary service but are young enough or of rank high enough to get drafted/recalled?

crfullmoon – at 12:38

“Draft a very small percentage of America’s health care providers into military service”

Don’t sound good.

heddiecalifornia – at 13:09

Out here on the left coast, many of our medical professionals are foreign born, many are not US citizens. Quite a few are here on special visas and in special programs to fill out our nursing, labwork, and other healthcare shortages.

In fact, specifically in our town, the local hospital has mostly foreign born staff and physicians. So, hopefully, we’ll get to keep them here helping us ---

temp man – at 13:28

Docs on demand. Fed Ex. Get it? Doctors = Docs = Documents = FedEx … Oh never mind, it’s never any fun when you have to explain the joke.

Anyway, Grace RN, this is not referring to military medical, but to any medical types, regardless if they received money from the gov or not. That is why thy call it a draft, and you have to register.

My guess is that compliance enforcement would be similar to the way they do it now for boys in most states. No proof of registration = no drivers license and/or no student loans. Docs, nurses, and healthcare workers without proof of registration = no medical care license, driver license, etc. That would even catch the retired ones.

cabingirl – at 13:58

My son did his Senior Exit Project on Conscription. It was very interesting to realize that our government tracks all sorts of professions, students and specific courses, etc. from about age 13 now. I wish I hadn’t deleted many of the links from my computer, but here is one about a medical draft left on my favorites-I don’t believe this to be gov. site., however does carry links throughout, in case anyone is interested.

http://tinyurl.com/ykrefj

diana – at 14:06

They have recruited nurses from everywhere to fill in gaps. It used to be the Philipines, now it is the Islands, causing a shortfall in those places. Why would they stay if they felt it meant possible death. If they have made a comfortable cushion, most likely they would return to their homes once their contracts expire. If they break their contracts who can force them back to this country. Learn to take care of yourself as much as is possible.

Leo7 – at 14:08

Cabingirl and Grace Rn:

Male nurses were given a heads up on this over a year ago. Many mailings to go mil-nursing now etc. So, the military has been trying to fill a void for some time. The check offs we do on the forms for our state RN licenses include our speciality areas, where we work, education and recent address changes. This is the RN renewal year. This is an easily accessible data base for emergencies. The age of 45 is new, last one I saw said 42.

cabingirl – at 14:11

well oops….guess I should have reviewed before posting. Sorry. forgot, he had to represent boths sides of the issue. It seems this is “how to avoid” draft situation (hope not found offensive). BUT…, as with any information, ±, maybe something of importance could be “pulled” (specific lists of who they may be considering) from the other “stuff”.

anonymous – at 14:27

The Commission Corp is one of the 7 enlisted Uniformed Services in the US. It’s all medical staff - docs, nurses, dentists, even sanitation. They wear uniform on Wednesdays and follow Navy protocol. It’s a similar structure to the Nat’l Guard, but they’re full-time and posted to duty stations in the US for the time of enlistment. They are subject to deployment and involuntary call-up after enlistment terms expire. The CC would be activated and deployed long before there would be any sort of civilian medical personnel ‘draft’, and this hasn’t happened. CC are in every town, in every state.

16 October 2006

Annoyed Max- Not mad yet – at 10:56

I can’t imagine there are that many “extra” people in the medical field that are not already working. My father spent the weekend in the hospital with kidney stones and the hospital was getting by on a skeleton crew. They didn’t have enough people anywhere, no nurses, docs, orderlies, even janitors. They were shipping patients to other hospitals that were not much better off. This is not in the sticks either, we are in the suburbs of Philadelphia. I can’t begin to imagine what the rest of the country is like.

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