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Forum: Jericho TV Show-comments II

26 October 2006

Bronco Bill – at 14:06

Continued from here

Gary Near Death Valley – at 16:32

Goju – at 13:42 A little about EMP. If the nukes exploded at ground level, would be little EMP damage very far away but take an atomic explosion, lets say up in the atmosphere a couple of hundred miles above the earth surface over the United States, then the EMP would basically from that one blast, cause an EMP effect throughout the country. If someone knows alittle more about it they could explain it better but this is the easy information concerning it. In the opening show, the burst of explosions appeared to be ground bursts not high up in the atmosphere.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 18:13

What does EMP stand for? (golly I feel dumb here sometimes). So does the mysterious cop have any food reserves stored? I don’t recall seeing any….he knew about conserving water, but weren’t they eating at the bbq?

pipes – at 18:37

electro-magnetic pulse

Medical Maven – at 18:47

A Farraday cage or box will protect your electronics from EMP. A poor man’s version is a cardboard box totally encased in aluminum foil. One of your good radios should be ensconced in such a box.

Hide in the Hills and wait – at 19:24

It also should be well grounded. A steel ammo can will work too. I would also wrap the contents in aluminum foil.

NEMO – at 19:33

Note to Self: put car alarms on the horses!

Prepping Gal – at 21:20

Nemo that was funny.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 21:32

electro-magnetic pulse ….oh yeah, I just couldn’t remember-thanks!

Ok, so you’re saying that a simple cardboard box lined with foil is going to protect my computer and communications equipment while Alabama Power’s is gping to fry? You’re kidding, right? Or is that really true? I have a steel ammo box that happens to be empty………

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 21:33

car alarms on the horses! omg….too funny!

Jane – at 21:38

I’m with Ladybiker yesterday, more worried than before, to see the lawlessness-without a community already established, we’re toast. They all knew each other, knew they were cut off and only had each other, yet the mistrust (and the immoral among them) was tearing them apart. The wife of the “cop” was resentful and not about to follow orders. Does every town have a goodly number of therapists to talk us through these upsets? Or do we get a smack, and as Mary Englebreit says, Snap out of it! (Also said by Cher in Moonstruck)

Grace RN – at 21:45

Medical Maven – at 18:47

“A poor man’s version is a cardboard box totally encased in aluminum foil.”

I was planning on wrapping my head in foil and thought-perhaps-it would protect me from all bad things.

(Maybe I’ll just do a foil hat….)

<sigh> just feel like we’re planning ourselves to smithereens somedays………..

On the fence and leaning – at 21:46

Look atwhat happens to the law. Notice the deputy went right into the barn. No need to get a search warrant when the judge is gone. I do find it funny that this little town now has an airport (no pilots?????!!!!!) They could have sent a plane out in episode 2 or3 instead of a bunch of guys in SUVs. According to the the previews this week, there also appears to be a large warehouse district, etc. IF the town was this big, they would have run out of food by now. I don’t see a lot of prepping going on and the hoarding is just starting. In real life it would be much, much faster and worse.

f-w – at 21:50

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 21:32

Keep in mind the circuits will only be protected if the computer / radio / whatever you’re trying to save is surrounded by metal or foil - even just a grid - but insulated so it doesn’t touch the metal. Basically you’re building an improvised Faraday cage to dissipate the effects of the EMP before it can harm delicate electronics…

It looks like the show is about to make a bunch of survivalists the bad guys, instead of folks who foresaw a possible crisis and prepared for it. This is not the kind of image preppers want to be associated with…

28 October 2006

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 23:36

ok, I’m going to come up with something, just ‘cause I think I can.

29 October 2006

On the fence and leaning – at 01:02

EMP: Does it affect electric devices if they are turned off (no current flowing)???

Goju – at 01:07

The EMP in the show was high up… scientifically correct… but I was lead to believe it would be the first bomb to go off and fry our ability to communicate and perhaps retaliate.

Anyway - the scenerios presented, while interesting to us “flubies”, is directly related to Nuke war. Things happen suddenly unlike the pandemic scenerios we all envision. Pandemic will come with some warning and things if they spiral out of control, happen slowly.

mountainlady – at 02:25

There is also the possibility of an EMP being put out from aircraft as a weapon to knock out electrical devices. I have heard of those being developed recently. It doesn’t have to be a nuke, from what I understand.

Not at all like a pandemic, which would leave the devices intact, but do it the people that maintain them.

I think about all the updates and other things that need to be done for computers on a regular basis. Would those be put out like they are now, or would that stop because of so many being sick, and any black hat hackers that are well would have a field day…

We would have to be careful about viruses and other problems if we use the internet more than we do now.

mountainlady – at 02:35

Drat! Typo. “do in the people” is what it should read.

anonyJohn – at 02:49

They can send “EMP” out from ground stations to knock out cell phones and satellite. There are experiments going on now (HAARP Program).

Bird Guano – at 12:44

Medical Maven – at 18:47

A Farraday cage or box will protect your electronics from EMP. A poor man’s version is a cardboard box totally encased in aluminum foil. One of your good radios should be ensconced in such a box.


A better alternative is an old microwave oven (not plugged in) sitting on a shelf.

Insta-faraday cage.

Find the old BIG ones at garage sales.

Cut off the plug.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 13:28

Ok, what about that train load of food?? What’s going on witht that — I was thinking it would end up on the nice storelady’s shelves, a procedure would be established to get food to everyone, etc.

Next thing I THINK happened is that the bad guy from this past week’s show stole the pallets and hid them somewhere (was it in a barn???), but then they disappeared from there as well. I’m I right or am I crazy??

Where’s that food?? I won’t even ask how they got it off the train in the first place……..

moeb – at 14:18

the kid from the store decided to hide the food in the barn… he enlisted the help of two teenage scoundrels. those scoundrels were connected to a group forming around an as yet not revealed heavy bad guy. (Jake knows and had a past history with said bad guy).

Said bad guy swiped the food the kid in the store hid in the barn.

moeb – at 14:21

the would be bad guy (from last weeks episode) with the rap sheet is an underling of the very bad guy (character not yet introduced)

IMO the episode was about coming together as survivors against well… greed and bad guys

moeb – at 14:35

so I ask, in the event of a pandemic with a CFR high enough to open the door to chaos

1. could a gang form and sustain itself without dying off?

2. could a legal entity form/exist and sustain itself without dying off?

moeb – at 14:40

consider the resources, discipline and intelligence needed to sustain a viable group of people during a pandemic…

are bad guys likely to practice social distancing and clean interaction?

Medical Maven – at 15:11

moeb at 14:40-That is my comfort, too-that the bad guys (MS-13, Crips, Bloods, etc.) will be decidedly handicapped by their general lack of knowledge and DISCIPLINE regarding sanitary practices and social distancing.

Then we are left with the genetically hardy few.

Onesies and Twosies (And maybe even Threesies) I can deal with.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 15:15

Well, I can answer the last question better than I can 1 or 2. NO. I think bad guys have some of that ‘invinceable’ attitude that all teenagers have. They don’t have to practice social distancing because they’ll be fine — and if the good guy gets sick, well, too bad.

How the heck did that little teenager get allllllll that trainload of food to a barn? I don’t mean how did he physically do it, but how did he convince 2 other teens to help him with out the plan going awry almost immediately. It seems to me those 2 scoundrels that started helping him would have come up with a plan to do something differently in the process of moving the food — they’d have knocked the good teen out & whisked the food off somewhere else where he wouldn’t know where it was while he was knocked out.

OK, I’m rambling and it really doesn’t matter, except that logistics is part of what we’re trying to streamline as part of our preps. Moving something bulky TWICE doesn’t seem brillant, does it.

Bird Guano – at 17:46

moeb – at 14:35

so I ask, in the event of a pandemic with a CFR high enough to open the door to chaos

1. could a gang form and sustain itself without dying off?

2. could a legal entity form/exist and sustain itself without dying off?


3. could you tell the difference post-disaster ?

anonymous – at 17:59

now now.. the founding fathers of the new federation are… ah.. NOT going to be a gang of thugs :-)

moeb – at 18:05

I hope

f-w – at 18:40

My answers

1. Certainly, especially if normal social structures crumble or cease functioning and people find themselves adrift. All it would take to bring disparate elements together would be the proper circumstances and a leader - religious, criminal, social, political - who appeared to have a plan to get folks through the crisis.

2. You mean like a corporation or a social movement?

3. Maybe not.

01 November 2006

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 19:52

Don’t forget to watch tonight!

Nova – at 22:37

Bird Guano at 12:44. I was told to take a metal trash can, line it with a thick blanket, put the equipment you want to protect inside, make sure the blanket completely covers everything so nothing inside actually touches the metal of the can, put the lid on it, and then cover the whole thing with yet another thick blanket. That’s what I did. Is that not enough?

Also, forgive my ignorance—I stopped watching it a couple weeks ago but just popped in for a few moments tonight—so maybe the pumpkins were toxic or something…but why waste all that food?

Jane – at 23:02

Exactly what I was thinking-but most of the pumpkins had designs drawn on them instead of being cut and spoiled. Pamela Reed, the mayor’s wife, said we use all of the buffalo in this house (ie, no wasting food!).

How much gas do they have, anyway? Jake and his brother driving 180 miles into danger on just a *hope* of finding medicine that they *hope* will save their father? Don’t they have to put it up for a vote? Whose gas is it?

If it’s Halloween there, we should be seeing everyone working like crazy to get ready for winter, but…..it’s lala land, I guess.

On the fence and leaning – at 23:10

What were they giving the kids? Rocks?

02 November 2006

Eccles – at 08:50

I’m surprised no one else saw the typical Hollywood writer mis-understanding of how things really work in the real world. In last week’s episode, when the guy was going to burn out the infested patch of corn, and suddenly half the town was there to help him pick it….

Well, if it was feed corn that is used for feed and grain flour products, it was not ready to pick yet, it was still green, and still moist. Picking it at that stage would merely have runied it. He would have no way to dry it. The normal practice would be to let it die back and let it stand in the field and dry before harvesting.

If the crop was sweet corn, the guy would have about 3–4 days to get it all procesed into either canning jars or frozen before it too was useless.

Hillbilly Bill – at 09:02

Eccles – at 08:50

Not to mention they would need a LOT of people to pick a large field of corn. Ever hand pick an acre of corn? There seems to be no end to it.

Eccles – at 09:11

Actually, my DW and I picked about 20–30 dozen ears in a single evening once to give to charity and use ourselves. We processed about 5 dozen for our own use and donated the rest. It was a very long and tiring day.

Hillbilly Bill – at 09:44

Removing corn from the cob and canning or freezing it is one of the most labor intensive and messiest jobs I have ever done. Eveything in the kitchen feels tacky by the time I am done. Reminds me of that Pina Colada party when I was in college when we got too drunk to remember to put the top on the blender.

moeb – at 09:54

rolls on the floor laughing at the pina colada thing

Hillbilly Bill – at 10:03

Bacardi 151 will do that to you.

Bronco Bill – at 10:21

Hillbilly Bill – at 09:44 --- Y’mean you didn’t order, from raht thar off’n the tell-ee-vision thingy, that new-fangled (in 1970) “Corn Kernel Remover and Catcher” from Ronco?? Ya stand the ear up on it’s fat end, and slide this doo-hicky over the top ‘n down ya go. Takes ever kernel raht off’n the cob, clean as a whistle!!

But wait!! There’s more!! If you’da ordered back then, you’da got one o’ them li’l ol’ bowls that catches them thar kernels, and you wouldna lost a one!!

No muss, no fuss, no mess! If you order now (then), we’ll send you two! Give one away as a gift to your friend (and don’t forget to tell ‘em where’n ya got it) How much, you ask? Not $59.95. Not $39.95. Not even $29.95. Y’all are gonna git TWO for the lowly price of only $19.95!! That thar’s right…only $19.95.

Git yers today!!

Hillbilly Bill – at 10:48

Believe it or not, I actually had one of those. It works great for ears that are EXACTLY the same size as the ones it was designed for. I found I could do better using a board with a nail through it to hold the ear of corn and a really sharp knife.

Jane – at 11:28

Eccles at 8:50, not to mention keeping the fire just where he wanted it, and not get out of control and burn the whole field. No way, if the infested corn will burn, green as it is, all of it will burn. Didn’t see him cutting any firebreaks, just splashing gasoline.

Someone said FEMA was nearby but got attacked, or did I hear it wrong? (I know it’s realistic to show an injured person as weak, but it’s very hard to hear them!)

Eccles – at 12:02

HBB - My finding re-zactly. We went out and boughtened one of those kernal remover things back at that same time when we had all that corn available to us. Just as you, I found that a good sharp knife with a straight blade did the best job. The store boughten remover thing did a really lousy job, and made a mess and was physically more tiring.


And that general store lady is a real hoot. “Are you stealing from me?” Meanwhile she is skinning the entire town out of all of their belongings. Wait till she is out of food and needs to try to trade some antique jewel box for Uncle Eccle’s Savory Rice and Bean Balls.

Bronco Bill – at 12:18

Uncle Eccle’s Savory Rice and Bean Balls.

You should upgrade the packaging on those and rename them to PanGalactic Space Balls.

Eccles – at 12:29

That would be the labeling for the upscale Techno markets. the Uncle Eccle’s brand is for the more down homey neighborhoods.

f-w – at 13:54

I have to say that, if all that’s left of the food from the train is enough to cart around in one truck, Jericho is in a LOT of trouble.

Not to mention they should be getting ready for a Plains winter without power instead of trick-or-treating. Freezing to death isn’t a pleasant experience, I’ve been told.

And while Dale may have risen up against the oppression of the capitalist ruling class - so to speak - I really think he shouldn’t be getting involved with Skyler. Pretty girl, but an antique jewelry box for a case of diet soda? She has NO sense of values and is a lousy horse-trader, besides!

^__^

Eccles – at 14:03

f-w

Just realize that as the gumbo gets deeper and deeper around the townies, the price will eventually get to an antique jewelry box for a CAN of diet soda. That would be just before it is the shotgun blast for a can of diet soda.

Hillbilly Bill – at 14:19

Just wait until that seemingly inexhaustible supply of liquor at the bar runs low.

moeb – at 14:43

noooOOOOO say it isn’t so. NOT THE LIQOUR!

moeb – at 14:48

I hope this serves to remind you all to get started with the home brewing of beer and wine

moeb – at 14:50

That old guy with the ham radio.. he strikes me as a moonshiner, they’ll be selling his stuff in the bar pretty soon. And someone from outside must be about to pull into town bigtime. Think traveling salesman ala sears and roebuck but with salvaged stuff

SnowDogat 15:04

Didn’t Skeet (forget the character’s name) say something about what he was drinking coming from a still?

Also, I liked the reference to Lawrence Kansas - they were talking about Topeka not being destroyed, but Lawrence was, they said said “I wonder why Lawrence.” For those who remember that early 80′s nuclear war movie - The Day After - it was set in Lawrence Kansas! :-)

Decloaked for Once – at 15:16

Regarding electronics…do you mean that even if they’re unplugged they need to be protected from EMP’s?

crfullmoon – at 15:32

DFO, I thought that cagey Mr.Farraday needed employment- (but read this fun text about surges I Googled up by accident http://www.altair.org/emc.html )

Eccles – at 17:28

DFO - Short answer is yes, even if they’re unplugged, they are toast. This is something a whole ‘nother scale from powerline spikes. This is inducing sufficient voltages in anything metallic that the traces on circuit boards will generate sufficient voltage to fry any chips that are connected to them. EMP=instant death for solid state electronics.

The folks who have been around here a while know that I also have a complete complement of vacuum tube radios, which should do much better with an EMP event.

seacoast – at 17:53

Eccles - Nice to see your post, we missed you!

Decloaked for Once – at 20:16

Thanks, crfullmoon (love the illustrations!) and Eccles.

03 November 2006

moeb – at 08:46

SnowDog – at 15:04 you are correct.. Jake speaks of the the still swill not quite being figured out. (I get to see the episodes a day after most of you do)

I was wondering where they were going to put that food the gang gave back? In the store where msRipOff operates? How would that be accepted by the town?

moeb – at 08:49

I also suspect they couldn’t make this about pandemic (a more believable plot line), because many of the actors would have had to wear face masks. Besides being uncomfortable, it would be hard at times to recognize the actors ;-)

blam – at 09:44

NEMO…>>>>”The arguments and fighting at the gas station seemed all too plausible.”<<<< I live in Mobile, a 2 1/2 hour drive from New Orleans. We were without electricity here for 7 days after Katrina. You should have seen the mobs at the gas stations. There was no electricity to pump gas but the evacuees were stuck there because they were out of gas. The store owner would only let one person at a time into the store to buy food and drinks. When the stores finally got electricity it got nasty and the local sheriff said that anyone in the gas line with a gun would be arrested immediately for armed robbery. There were cars parked all up and down the freeway (no-gas) for people who were trying to make their way back home to points west and didn’t realize they’d driven into a ‘black-hole’ and were stuck there without any supplies. Mostly they were nice middle-class families with children who had heeded the evacuation advice. Many learned a valuable lesson during Katrina. When the Red Cross from Nebraska arrived on the third day to hand out MRE’s, we were sitting on the back deck eating freshly cooked spaghetti and drinking wine. I’ve always been a good Boy Scout…be prepared.

Jane – at 13:05

About the EMP, would a steel filing cabinet be like a Faraday cage? I hope so, because one drawer can hold a lot, and it can be opened and closed without spoiling the metal (like aluminum foil). Would the electronic equipment have to be insulated from the bottom and sides of the drawers? Rubber shelf liners, maybe? Or cotton towels?

Bird Guano – at 14:08

Unless there are no gaps in the filing cabinet, it would be of minimal use.

You need to have something where all of the seams are sealed and overlapping.

A filing cabinet doesn’t meet that criteria.

moeb – at 15:58

hmmm quite the fascination with Faraday cages… why are so many prepping for an EMP? Solar flare maybe?

Goju – at 17:10

About the timing of the EMP.

By giving everyone some time to drive around, they used up most of their gas… the cars that were left functioning (the old ones) don’t have much gas left to siphon.

Good use of oil as a weapon - hummm.

06 November 2006

Gulf Coast Mama – at 12:53

about trading of a jewelry box for soda cans being a stupid idea - in reality, after Katrina, there were many stories of people being offered $20 or more for a single roll of toilet paper - and the people refusing to sell! I saw people bartering for food at aour evacuation hotel.This is a reality that people who lived through war and strife know well. During war time, commodities like coffee, cigs, alcohol, etc. are priceless. Also, salt and sugar. Although so much of the show is ridiculous, this part is not. We should all consider prepping trade goods such as these.

What is so ridiculous is that they should all be messed up from post-traumatic stress disorder, as we STILL are from Katrina, and the idea of having festivities like halloween at such a time is off the scale in terms of unrealism. At about this point they would be dying from fatigue from washing their own clothes by hand (a HARD JOB) and not sleeping out of fear and cold. They will be hungry (even with that great radioactive corn!). Even though they are supermodels, the women would not have makeup on and earrings. this is simply absurd. I have to keep watching this dumb unrealistic show and I am angry about it! I hope they rescue me from it by cancelling it.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 16:32

Gulf Coast Mama – at 12:53 I can understand your frustration. People believe what’s on tv more than we think they do…..my brother worked for the Social Security office before retiring. When he first started he’d take applications from people applying for SS. He was amazed when people would come in and say they had some sort of disease or injury & he’d ask for documentation from their doctor, which they wouldn’t have. He’d ask how they knew they had this strange, rare disease & they’d say because they had all the symptoms they’d seen when a patient of Dr. Welby’s had it last week on the Dr. Welby MD, tv show!

After you’ve lived through the real trauma, any ‘reanactment’ is never as horrible, scary, or accurately portrayed. But even so, it brings back the original fears & anger. Makes you wonder how rape victims, for instance, can stand to watch tv at all!

09 November 2006

Jane – at 18:10

The “cop” sent his daughter to do his errand secretly. I guess she put out the FBI badge and ID to be found in a search. It seems like a decoy to get them off his back, so we still don’t know who he is. The man doing the questioning seemed creepy to me. Is he really a Jericho citizen?

Is this turning into threat of the week? First the rip-off gang, now the mercenaries gone out of control. I’m still tuning in, but learning anything is looking less likely. Except for the ice-making experiment. Has anyone looked up the recipe?

Newname – at 23:26

Jane Yes, I would certainly like to know how they made ice from fertilizer and water!! That would certainly come in handy. They used plastic bowls and metal bowls. It didn’t work with the plastic ones but ice did form with the metal bowls. I thought fertilizer melted ice, not make it. Any chemist out there?

On the fence and leaning – at 23:37

Does anyone know what exactly “the cop” did to his oven so that it can cook? It appears he put in a chimney but what about heatsource? Where the heat goes, etc.?

10 November 2006

Northstar – at 07:42

On the fence: I loved the part about the oven because it was a “hillbilly handywoman” idea I came up with ages ago in this forum… he put the fire in the drawer below the oven! He (what is that character’s name?) said they were lucky to have had a gas oven instead of an electric one because it vented directly to the outside. I wonder if that could really be done? That would be so cool! I was thinking of getting a scrap oven for my idea… but if I could use the one in my kitchen, woo hoo! (Not going to try it while the gas is still flowing, though!)

Things I liked: indications of coming food shortages (although it still seems pretty plentiful, right down to the block of Velveeta and “cans I had saved for the food drive.” And that paramilitary groups would be the order of the day.

Now for the dissing part, and there’s always something to dis…Oh, I hated the part about the ice… c’mon, just put some wet compresses on him and fan him… a mist and some fanning. And then Jake washes his face in one of the bowls — we were howling that he should be on the ground screaming and clawing his eyes! And no way is the creepy guy with the gun going to be the one to sacrifice himself for you so you can get away… no way, in real life he’s going to attach himself like a tick and you’ll never get rid of him! And the doctor — what’s he doing with his hands in that guy? Surgery without anesthesia? His patient probably thought being *shot* was bad…

Still like the show, with all its flaws. (s)

Kim – at 09:11

Northstar, I missed the last episode so I’m just going by the comments made here… first off, I’ve never seen a gas stove that was vented to ANYWHERE. Don’t know if a fire built in the drawer underneath the oven would work or not, but I sure wouldn’t try that technique with any stove I had any hopes of ever using again in a “normal” way, and I sure wouldn’t set a wood-burning fire inside my house (no vent = house filled with wood smoke). You CAN heat an oven by setting burning cans of EcoFuel (or similar hotter-burning product) inside the oven itself.

That’s why this show drives me crazy… so many people are gonna see this Hollywood dream-crap and think it will really work.

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 09:47

Kim, I always have to watch it the next evening or so!

We watched the recording last night and the first thing I had to stop the DVR for was because at the very first it said it as one month since the blasts. Then Jake and brother are talking about why the town they’ve just driven to is deserted and later learn from the guy upstairs in the hospital that everyone was moved to a tent city in a WalMart parking lot a week ago. Their conversation seemed like they had the timing off at first.

Glad that Jake sped up and drove so fast past the wrecked car and the dead girl. The way he spotted the second set of skid marks & figured out that bandits had run the girl off the road & killed her and might still be lying in wait for the next car — theirs — was great instant detective work — why couldn’t he figure out the black guy’s gig back at home that fast?? I thought that was realistic though, that it wasn’t a good idea to try to stop and help, just assume the girl dead & move on quickly.

I can’t believe Jake and brother put their guns down in the stairwell, first of all, but once they did, I can’t believe that after the mercinary guy frisked ‘em and decided they were ok (he only checked one of the brother’s sides, not both) that they didn’t get their guns back right then. duh.

I told my husband that I thought the ending was well done….brother realizes he’s left his coat and wallet back in the hospital (shoulda kept wallet in his pants pocket like my husband when he posed as a doctor to get his hands on the “other” drug the real doc said they needed) and the bad guys would find it — can you believe they honed in on that one little coat in that great big hospital IN THE DARK OF NIGHT mind you, and realized it was something that hadn’t been there before so fast??

Then the ‘here’s a new way we can have fun’ look on the bad guy leader’s face when he discovered the brother’s driver’s license with his address on it…notice how fast he threw the credit cards out of the wallet indicating they were soooo totally useless?

What I liked, and found chilling, was when the brother told Jake he’d left his coat and wallet and that the bad guys would have their address and wondered if they’d come try to find them in Jericho, there was no more discussion about it (at least that’s how I remember it). It was like the brother was naive enough to ‘wonder’ but Jake knew for a fact the bad guys would be coming.

He didn’t say anything, but at a time when he should have been tired and trying to relax and be glad that his father was still alive, he is left standing (with rifle/shotgun? still in hand) in the dark, with moonlight coming in the window to backlight his silhouette, he looks out the shuttered windows with great concern, and then leans against the back of the couch with rifle pointed at the ceiling to wait in the dark, alone. A man with so many secrets.

Sure glad that his leg healed so fast from that first episode & as someone else pointed out, that after a month gone by they had enough gas to drive to that other town and get back again! Woulda thought they would have foolishly used that gas to run a generator to make ICE or something useful like that.

Northstar – at 10:38

Kim @ 9:11 - Lol! Like me! No, don’t worry, I have a healthy fear of setting fire to the house in the middle of a pandemic… but I just feel so *validated* about my outdoor hillbilly oven! :-D

nopower – at 10:49

They put ammonium nitrate in the larger plastic bowl surrounding a metal (aluminum) bowl filled with water. The explanation was that the A.N. would draw the heat out of the water through the metal bowl (which is why plastic didn’t work). Now is this real?? I have no idea. Maybe a chemist will let us know.

I figure it might make the water cooler, but form solid ice - I doubt it.

History Lover – at 10:55

My husband and I were wondering why they just didn’t go to a deserted pharmacy. Every town has a Walgreen or something that is smaller and easier to secure while you’re looking for medicines. But then you wouldn’t be able to find a conveniently abandoned (and not bad looking) young doctor for Jericho. So how did he avoid being killed by the rogue military?

Jane – at 11:27

Maybe the doctor played dead while they were spraying bullets. Or told them they’d need him later. But would they listen to reason? Using up a lot of ammo on people who weren’t threats… Wonder who’s giving the orders, and if he has an agenda?

Kim – at 15:03

The idea of using ammonium nitrate to make ice intrigued me so I did some minor Google research. It appears that it WILL work, but it’s not too efficient. Below is the link for the question, read it then click the link titled “Re: making ice without machinery” at the bottom of that page for the answer. Interesting!

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jun99/929075573.Ch.q.html

Kim – at 15:08

BTW, the MadSci link above has all KINDS of interesting stuff! Looks like a super fun place to play and learn! Just click the MadSci Network link at the very top of the page.

nopower – at 16:43

I was just waiting for someone else to google ammonium nitrate. I didn’t want to get put on a watchlist :)

Kim – at 19:11

The exact term I googled was “ammonium nitrate freeze water”. I really could care less about watch lists…. I’m not a politically correct person, have no fear of making my views known, so am probably on somebody’s list somewhere already anyway. Everyone who knows me knows that I really am QUITE harmless, probably lead one of the most mundane, boring lives in existance… all bark and no bite, as they say :-)

11 November 2006

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 07:25

all bark and no bite, as they say :-)

Kim, but you have a lion’s courage to stand up and prep for a pandemic when most people around us won’t.

walker910 – at 11:04

Seems to me a logical thing to do. If you’re going to walk into a situation where you are pretending to be someone you’re not—i.e. a doctor—and you fully expect to get frisked, then the first thing you would probably do is take your wallet out of your pants, put it somewhere safe—like your coat pocket—and stash your coat someplace where you can come back later to pick it up.

15 November 2006

Kim – at 22:43

Well, I think tonight’s episode showed just how stupid Jake and his buddies are. After the mercenaries that he’d encountered at the Rogue River hospital showed up, Jake and his cohorts made the idiotic move of letting the mercenaries escape with their lives, even though they had sufficient manpower, firepower and a perfect opportunity to dispatch them at the first encounter. How have these people lasted this long, being as dopey as they are? Guess they think those bad guys will just give up and go away. Oh, and guess those humvees the bad guys are driving will be deterred by not having a bridge… DUHHHH, they’re 4wd cross-country vehicles… if the residents of Jericho are what’s left to repopulate the world, perhaps it’s better that the race slip into oblivion quietly….

16 November 2006

Northstar – at 15:47

Hahaha! And how’d you like that raging torrent of a river, the barrier against all invaders! Man, wouldn’t want to have to brave those rapids! My ankles might get muddy! _Tell_ me you couldn’t jump that thing with a six-pack and an old Plymouth! (Heck, in Jericho, they probably do that on weekends for fun!)

And loved the scene where Ma is confronting the good son about having an affair… right when he’s trying to deal with the blow up the bridge emergency. One of those classic “Not NOW, MA!” moments! My dh and I were rolling.

I still love the show. Some of the dumb stuff they do is like going to the scary movie and shouting at the screen “Don’t go in the house! No! He’s in there!” But they always go in the house, don’t they? (GGGG)

21 November 2006

EOD – at 06:33

Interesting comments on the show in a WND article.

http://tinyurl.com/yxosf4

23 November 2006

On the fence and leaning – at 02:05

EOD: Did you see the links at the bottom of that story? Reading about the Family Radio Service right now. Very interesting.

On the fence and leaning – at 02:10

Not just the FRS radios (cheap hand helds you buy at Walmart) but the network that is being looked at if TSHTF.

Homesteader – at 09:24

This show makes me nuts. Okay, so the premise is okay, but if the FBI guy moved from DC to this dinky town in Kansas, why did he not prep more than ramen noodles? And, no one is concerned about running out of food. They are bartering for soda and going to the bar to drink a lot of liquor. Okay, I understand the need for self medicating when your life has been turned upside down, but there is no indication of dirty clothes, no indication of where they are getting the water to drink (wouldn’t radioactive fallout affect groundwater?), The farmer is worried about his corn, I seriously doubt it is sweet corn-if it is, it won’t stay good picked for very long, if it isn’t, no one has grain mills…

That is just the top of the list. It just seems like one more pseudo soap opera with a twist. I would like them to talk about more serious things than “omygosh, I need to leave my wife for the barmaid”.

nopower – at 13:36

Well I feel foolish spending all this time prepping. If something bad happens we can just count on China to send us food, water, medical supplies and even a generator and fuel using antique planes. China really is our friend.

Probably next week they’ll be trying to figure out what to do with the grain that was air dropped in. My guess is they will use it for alcohol.

27 November 2006

I’m-workin’-on-it – at 15:14

nopower that;s funny!!

What about Gracie getting stabbed??? I wasn’t expecting that, and no one can save her! Make your bed with the devil………

side scroll?30 November 2006, 15:39

So what’s happening now? Who’s spying on our mystery man by satellite?? Is the China food ok & was anyone able to get on the website for more info? I couldn’t google it.

I’m-workin’-on-it30 November 2006, 15:39

ignore side scroll msg

Long-time Lurker?30 November 2006, 17:05

Did you check the following website:

whodroppedthebomb.com

I’m-workin’-on-it30 November 2006, 23:05

That’s the site I was talking about but when I typed it into Google I couldn’t find it? Did you get to it? I guess I should explain that when I want to go to a new website, instead of typing it into the address box at the top of my screen, I type it into a google search box. That keeps misc. addresses from appearing in my dropdown box on my address line & puts them into my google dropdown box where I can store more than 20 addresses. Anyway, I typed it into google & dogpile, both with www. and with http://www. in front of it and neither way could I find the site.

Did you actually get there? If you did, I’ll just have to break down and type it into my address box then rotate all 20 addresses to get rid of it again! :-)

preppiechick01 December 2006, 14:34

IWOI:

Hope this helps!

whodroppedthebomb

I’m-workin’-on-it06 December 2006, 23:32

preppiechick!!! That worked! Wonder why on earth I couldn’t google it??

Anyway, I’ll scour the site tomorrow when I get a little time — and I found a Yahoo Group dedicated to the show that might be interesting to keep up with.

It’s a membership group to help eliminate SPAM but all you have to do is click to register & enter a security code. Whe all know how THAT works. Here’s a link:

http://tinyurl.com/uaqtp

Enjoy!

Prepping Gal?09 December 2006, 16:36

When’s the show coming back on?

On the fence and leaning?09 December 2006, 18:36

January, late.

I’m-workin’-on-it29 December 2006, 10:59

Feb 14th I think is the ‘review’ of the Fall shows, then the next week it begins with new episodes. Is anyone keeping up with either the CBS Jericho group forums or the Yahoo group forums? I’m amazed at the people who love this show and the depth of thought going into figuring it all out on those 2 sites!

I’m-workin’-on-it29 December 2006, 21:49

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I’m-workin’-on-it30 December 2006, 23:49

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I’m-workin’-on-it03 January 2007, 09:59

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I’m-workin’-on-it04 January 2007, 14:56

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