Has any one installed a commercialy available Hand Pump on a well with a existing submersable pump? If so what make did you use and are you happy with it.
sure wish I could, but my well is too deep :-(
Sailor --- check into this rig: Solar Power Water Pump.
I’ve never had to use a well or water pump, but this one looks pretty decent…
Bronco Bill — 05 December 2006, 15:45
Thanks BB I was hoping that some one on the site had installed one of these and could let us know how it worked out. So far the unit you linked to looks the best to me but it is also the most expensive. Guess you get what you pay for.
I think some of the “oldies” like Hillbilly Bill and Eccles and Strider might know more. Have you tried asking on the New Forum?
Thanks for the suggestion BB but I am not signed in over there as I like the ease of use of this forum better. But that said I do go over and lurk in the shadows and see what is new. I am sure that I am likely missing out on stuff but that said I do not post on any of the other flu threads ither so hopefully some one here would like to tell us if they have installed one of these pumps. I find it odd with all of the prepers on this site who are concerned about water supplys as number one that no one including myself has installed a commercial hand pump. I have noticed that a couple of the old timers made their own pumps and have posted plans for them but I am still considering installing a permanent commercial pump that will hopefully outlast me and my kids. Thanks again BB nice to see you posting over here again as we have missed your posts.
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Sailor - There is a commercial hand pump made for installation onto a well with an existing submersible pump. It includes a modified cap for your existing casing, and is fitted with threads to permit attachment of gardan hose connectors. It claims to be able to generate about 100PSI, so you could pump water over to the house with it.
It is somewhat on the pricey side, and so I haven’t had the resources to pursue it. As in any hand pumping system, the deeper you have to pump from, the complicated the pump needs to be.
Also, it really needs to be installed by someone qualified to work with your current well equipment, but I’ll darn sure betcha they have no experience with this one.
I don’t recall the name of the product, but if you want, I can try to find it for you.
Thanks for the info Eccles and disgruntled.
Eccles I bet that the link from disgruntled is the one that you were thinking of? I still would like to find some body that has installed one of these to find out how they like it prior to spending the big bucks.
This is one of those last items for me as I have a couple of generators and two differnt elect pumping systems but would still like to have manual back up encase of gen failure or gas shortages. Thanks
I suppose it may be a bit of over kill but reading the 100 items list of first to go items a hand pump was recomended and it makes sense although they are in a slightly different senario.
I installed an old fashioned hand pump on my well for Y2K.I just prime it with water and pump out all the water I want.Mostly use it for citrus trees…….High mineral water and high temps corrodes the working part exampe the rubber diaphram and the shaft …….So we purchase a new pump from True Value for around $60.00…….That replacement pump was my X mas gift last year.hehehehehe
Help with Sidescroll Thanks
I believe this may be the web site you are looking for. http://www.simplepump.com/
I’ve considered purchasing a well bucket. It says that removal of submersible pump may be necessary. How easy/difficult is that?
Here are two models I’m considering. One is PVC and the other galvanized steel. I’m thinking the PVC, which is slightly cheaper, is lighter for lifting but the steel of course would be more durable. Any thoughts?
Convoy? — 06 December 2006, 13:35
Hey Convoy I have been chuckling about your reply Hehehe! How deep would the water level be in your well, and are you using a Cistern pump or one of the deep well pumps. If it is a deep well pump you got a great deal on it.
Thanks again.
They have hand pumps at Northern Tool
Oremus — 06 December 2006, 15:36
Hi Oremus I have bought the pieces to build a 3in by 3ft well bucket and am going to use ABS plumbing fittings and a 3/4 in foot valve on the bottom. Their was another post a while back explaining how to make one and I changed the design to encorporate a 3in to 1 1/2 reducer on the bottom with a 1 1/2 in to 3/4 in reducer and then a 3/4 in. close nipple to conect with the 3/4in foot valve. I felt that it suppled a bit more secure connection for the foot valve.
I had originaly thought to use a tripod and a pully to pull the well bucket up and down but I think I may make a windlass the same as was used on the old hand dug wells.
BlueSky? — 06 December 2006, 14:37 Lavendergrl — 06 December 2006, 18:54
Thanks for the links, they both have good looking pumps and I am presently leaning towards the Simple pump but would sure like to hear how satisfied any one is that is actually using one of these pumps that they have installed. Thanks again.
Sailor, BlueSky, and Others, I purchased a unit from simplepump.com last month. Pricey, yes. It has been delivered, but I have yet to install it. According to the prez, I can have it up and running in less than two hours. I plan to do it next week. If it works as advertized, I will probably install one on my second well. The second well is drilled and cased, but has no power to it as yet, so a manual pump is perfect.
Hey Surfer Great to hear from you. What you are doing is exactly what I am thinking of doing as I also have a second well that I am not using and will use the Hand pump there. How was simplepump.com to deal with and did you have any problems with shipping etc. I would sure like to know how satisfied you are with the pump when you complete the installation. Did you have it delivered with the down pipe or buy the pipe locally?
Thanks very much for the reply.
Sailor, Very courteous. Prompt shipping, no problems. I had the down pipes shipped with the pump, but I didn’t need many ‘cause the static level on the main well is only 10′, although the well is punched through to the aquifer at about 190′. Second well will require more extensive downpipes since the static level is much lower, but…the question is, what do I want? Water now or hopes/dreams based on current infrastructure? I choose water now. Costs be damned.
Sailor, similar to Surfer, I also purchased a unit from Simple pump a month and 1/2 ago. Have not installed it yet. My existing electric pump is reaching the end of its life and I plan on having my installer put in the Simple Pump when he replaces my existing pump. Both pumps in the same well.
During my research it appeared to me that many sites were simply resellers for Simple Pump. I dealt with Simple Pump directly. Their responses to my email and phone questions were prompt and detailed. They were very knowledgeable and helpful. Shipping was very prompt and I have no doubt that they will offer me phone assistance if we have any problems during the installation.
Once I have the pump installed I can report back.
BlueSky? — 06 December 2006, 20:33
Thanks for the reply, this is exactly the information that I was looking for and would be thankfull for a report after your installation is complete.
I have bought a 120 volt submerseable pump and will install it in the unused well and would like to install the hand pump along side the new submerseable pump. Thanks
I’ve been researching ths as well and thought Simple Pump seemed like the best way to go, but it’s quite pricey. And I know that I’d probaly muck up instalation. I may have a professional do it - better to know it’s working properly beforehand than when the power is out!
My hand pump does not need electricity to run…simply prime it and the water comes out of a spout……..outside….the water does not flow through the house…..I would use this if the power failed…You would see this old fashioned hand pump on a farm in the olden days….people now use these pumps for lawn decorations.not me though,,,,,,,
Thanks for the reply Convoy just got back on the computer after stacking a cord of wood for next years use. Is your pump one of the pumps aproximately 4 feet high with the long handle?
Samller 2 feet high………We stacked 2 cords this fall under our barn for emergency use in the future……but we are living in Florida for the rest of the winter…..We travel all around and were in Arizona for the month of November……We follow the WARMTH……We are Snowbirds I guess…….
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Thanks for the reply Convoy I now understand the handle if you are Snowbirds are you from up north?
This one is quite good. Give Gary a call at Simple Pump and he can tell you whether it’ll suit your needs. He’s very easy to talk with and really knows his stuff.
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BlueSky? — 06 December 2006, 20:33
Hi BlueSky Have you finished your pump installation and if so how did it go? Are you happy with it?
Thanks
Hi Sailor
I haven’t had it installed yet, but will probably try to get that done over the next several weeks depending on the installer’s schedule. I feel some sense of relief knowing that at least I have it on hand.
Thanks
Sailor, I bought a simple pump about a year ago and had it installed about 5 months ago. It works fine, I feel it was worth the money. Gary at Simple Pump is very nice and helpful, we had it installed about 100 feet down our well, it needs several pumps to be primed if not used in several days. I go out every couple of days and pump some water, it works good, not like having regular well service,but will be priceles without electricty.
TXNurse? — 04 January 2007, 22:31
Thank you very much for the information on the pump, this is the feed back that I was waiting for. Good luck with the pump and have a great new year.