I’m surprised that we don’t see these communities being
founded dedicated to prepping and isolating and surviving panflu.
We saw this in the 1960s or 70s with the “hippie”,
anti-Vietnam-war-movement.
So, do you know anybody willing to join such a community ?
Would it be a good idea and increase the surviving chances
to live in a community with fellow preppers rather than
in a community with panflu-ignorants ?
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Oh, boy! Maybe more of a ‘secret society’ kind of thing?
I think this is a great idea! I think those that survive will do so because of their community…or tribe, or whatever. I am planning to relocate to a farmette that my family can take refuge at. I want running water on site, and plan on using many of the wonderful suggestions that I have read on Fluwiki.
I know that a successful group would have a number of different skill sets that will aid with survivial of the group - and the posters here would be a wonderful crew to have along!
Or, more likely, we each could be seeds for our own communities. Be sure to include breeders :-) We will need the youngsters!
I think it’s wiser for us to work within our neighborhood, and help encourage everyone to prep. IMHO.
you could offer to pay a fee to the non-preppers in your community that they have to leave when panflu hits - else they can keep the fee for nothing. You can offer that location to a foreign prepper who pays a fee for the right to move to that lodgement in case of a pandemic. The prepper will have to store his stuff nearby, so he/she can quickly take over that lodgement and maybe change his old one with the original owner for the duration of the pandemic.
when you have a farm and enough land, you could offer other preppers with mobile houses or living-containers the right to build a panflu-home on a piece of your land for the duration of the pandemic. They’ll have to pay for the right, of course. And you want to ensure that they are adequately prepped and that they will help to defend your land against looters or cats or ferrets etc. You can exchange expertise, medicine, goods, food etc. with nearby preppers on your land - so both should benefit.
the main advantage is, that you have a community with an actual pandemic plan for quarantine, maybe even isolation within the community, when necessary and common prepping. Most existing communities are dominated by panflu-ignorants and they don’t have pandemic plans.
Grace RN – at 11:54 I plan to do this 1st
gs – at 11:37 I have a friend who has the perfect location for such a community. aprox. 100 acres on top of a mountain, large pond and aprox. 10 acres of flat ground. I plan on following this post closely and look forward to having a lengthy discussion with him about the possiblitly when I pay him a visit in April. (by the way he was and still is an old hippie)
we live like that now…….and have room for 3 families…but we are not going to charge anyone..
anonymous – at 17:45 yes, my friend might ask for a donation but wouldn’t charge anyone either. His place would be a good spot for a camp week or weekend. a place to talk in person and share prepping knowledge.
gs - no I wouldn’t. There is always the people who have nothing to offer in the way of their own preps. People who feel that they are entitled to your help or others that just want to take over. At my place, someone would need to have their own stuff and also know that our property is NOT a democracy. We own the place and they take instructions from us or leave. Everyone works including the kids. No welfare broodmares with illegitmate children that are used to doing nothing for a living except use up my tax dollars unless they are proven hard workers, not likely but there may be one or two out there. I would take in hard working people, people in wheelchairs can cook and sew, elderly that know how to do things the old way, vets that can handle a gun. Able bodied people that can hoe a row and wash clothes by hand. I am afraid it is almost too late in this world for people like that. Sigh Laura
Thordawggy – at 22:31 to each his own. your hard approach is just the opposite of what my friends approach would be. He has an annual party by invitation only. The key is those invited are just very nice people. It is a great feeling to belond even for a short time to a community where cooperation doesn’t have to be demanded or even coaxed. I’m sure an extended stay would stress the good nature of some, but if someone got out of line they would stand out in the crowd and then be spoken to privately and as the case with most reasonable people the matter should be resolved quickly. I always look forward to visits on the mountain and always regret leaving.
but these are very rare cases. What are the masses doing from the big towns ?
Noone trying to found/join a panflu-protect-community ?
Where are the homepages of the thousands of prepping communities
looking for new members ? ;-)
I once asked here:
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic17031-15.html
but not so much interest.
sorry about that gs, I went off in a different direction there.
I think the above article will have a big effect in the small town I live in. Our school system seems to be the focal point of our community. The town I live in has a hospital, water treatment plant, fire dept. small army post and natural land barriers.(river, high on hill), and a couple of man made ones too.(highway on one side and only a few access roads)I think it if any town could isolate itself it could be ours. Of course there would be a lot of legal issues to a self imposed quaratine
Well folks here is what we learned at our community meeting last night. Our local communities have put in place the “ Pandemic Influenza Contingency Planning Group “(PICPG). In a meeting that lasted apro. 2 hrs, which only a couple of dozen people turned up for, we were given a folder containing printed information such as; PanFlu planning checklist, safety checklist,estimated # of cases by outcome for our locality, family communications plan list, a fact sheet for caring of a flu patient & a bird flu facts pamplet(www.survivetheflu.com). We were also given info. about the PICPG and their misson statement, “ Neighbour Helping Neighbour “. We were given a calendar of planned free lectures, info. sessions(infection control,nutrition, diagnostics, medical emergencies, cardiac and respiratory emergencies, be prepared not scared disaster response, drug administration, wounds and bleeding, oxygen therapy, Home care, shock,unconciousness & fainting ) First Aid & CPR Clinics & mask fitting clinics for front line workers in our area. Just knowing that such a group is in place in our community with a plan in action is a relief in itself. We are now being given the oppurtunity to volunteer to be apart of this plan. Everything from administration, fundraising, emergency services to homecare. I hope this info. will help others by knowing what another community is doing to prepare. Hopefully we will have a website up and running in the near future, which I will be sure to pass along.
Thordawggy at 22:31, I’m with you. Mr. or Ms. HUA (Head Up A**) Oblivion is not welcome at my place unless they have something of value to share with me… it might be work, might be food, might be just expertise or even just great company & entertainment… but there’s gotta be something! There are very few folks who can’t do SOMETHING to earn their keep, but if they’re not willing to do anything, the welcome mat is gone.
Kim, how about money ? That’s how the system is supposed to work. I’m missing these companies “survive the panflu with xy everything you need for $10000, money back on failure”. No, seriously I suggested this elsewhere: I think the community should do the prepping, not the individuals. But the individuals should pay an extra fee for that effort to get it running.
Yes, cash is accepted here ;) , in fact I have lots of survival supplies that I’d be happy to sell (or trade). Point is, nobody is getting anything from me for nothing. I’m not willing to support somebody whose sole claim to fame is their utilization as a paperweight. And gs, what you’re proposing is called “taxes”, something I’m not in favor of raising, mainly because I think I can do a better job of spending my money than the government.
not taxes, because only those pay who want the community/company to do their prepping. Of course only those who paid and registered will get their stuff then later, when panflu arrives.
There are as many problems with communities as benefits. The rules have to be strict and enforced without compassion, or the whole community suffers. And let’s face it, those of prepping mindset tend to be independent thinkers.
JMHO, nawty
gs, don’t you think it may precipitate some problems when the big “Survival Supplies Co.” truck rolls up and unloads a truckful of supplies into your house while your neighbors watch???
Eaglebabe – at 20:36-where are you located? Was that much material handed out too much do you think for the first meeting? Our local board of health is going to stzart local community education next month and as a presenter, knowing how much is enough vs “too much” will help me. I’m in New Jersy, USA.
gs: I personally think helping and encouraging your community to prep is a better idea than running away from it. You would be possibly saving more lives that way. Also think that you might have more luck having people stock up a bit than uprooting themselves from their jobs etc. We also saw the Jim Jones phenonenon where like-minded people isolated themselves and became quite paranoid. I was in Oregon when the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh established his little community in Antelope. Of course the main draw there was free love. That resulted in bus loads of folks heading that direction. Might be a way to get folks to come to the Flu-free community.
gs, sorry to rain on your parade, but the folks who think that all they have to do is go out and buy a bunch of stuff at the last minute aren’t going to make it anyway, because they’re the type who can’t do anything for themselves unless someone is there to hold their hand and walk them thru it, as they don’t have the time/intelligence/intestinal fortitude to do things themselves, read directions, think, etc. Trust me, there are PLENTY of folks out there who would starve to death in a grocery store and be cold inside a camping supplies store. A lot of them are successful business people (how, I’ll never know!), but they just don’t have what it takes to survive without somebody else doing things for them. Many of them (perhaps your own boss???) couldn’t find their way out of a shoebox if they didn’t have someone there telling them precisely what to do. Your idea is just a poor business model, especially the money-back part.
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