Continued from here
Commonground – at 07:59
Okieman - at 07:29, Good Morning. I feel we need to have a running tab probably posted and updated periodically of the cases that have been reported Negative. This is extremely important to me, as they may be returning. It should be in Michelle’s Summary Page but at the bottom seperately from the list. Maybe Michelle can post them negative, and then after a week, remove them and add them to the Negative List.
Okieman – at 08:06
Another thought. Michelle emailed me the excel spreadsheet she is using to post the summary. She has recorded a tremendous amount of information about each of the cases gleened from the articles posted here on the fluwiki forum. She has relationship data (husband, wife, sister…etc), hospitals where each case is being treated, whether tamiflu is being administer, positives, negatives,…et. If Michelle is willing, that info could be uploaded into the ftp site Dude set up for the wiki. Then anyone could go through it and decide for themselves what the data indicates.
As I was writing this I got on the phone and discussed this with Michelle and she said she would be more than willing for the spreadsheet be put on the ftp site. She will email one of the mods in the next few days (times are busy right now) and work out the process. This way the summary on the forum can be an abreaviated version for a quick “looksee” and the detailed spreadsheet on the ftp site for a more in-depth view of the data gathered.
Okieman – at 08:11
Commonground – at 07:59
Yes, I think the negatives need to be addressed in some way. I will wait and Michelle can address your suggestion since she is doing the spreadsheet.
I think the map posted in this thread: “Indonesia Oubreak Case Summaries NOCOMMENTARYPLEASE”
is far better than the text summaries. It really conveys how widespread the human cases have become. Whomever created this map - THANKYOU!!
Okieman, the map you created indicating cases is extremely useful. Thanks for doing this.
I understand the concern about false negatives. Since you now have the deaths and confirmed cases marked on the map, I can get the information I need.
Okieman. That was really nice work on the map…I’m sure it took quite a bit of time to put together…Thanks!!
To Michelle in OK at 18:50 of previous(IV) thread …
(Michelle, DA & NA are still alive.)
Where can I find the map and the spreadsheet? I just started reading this forum and I am very impressed with the work people are doing, but because of the length of this thread, it is hard to find things. Is there a search capability?
Bozito – at 12:05
for map and summary of INDO go here:
it will take you to the thread you seek, and yes there is a search (upper left of each thread page)
Okieman,
I would like to add my thanks to your work.
A picture speaks a thousand words.
North Sumatra - Fatimah Released - Blood Tests Negative
Tebing Tinggi: Fatimah, one of the assumption patients of bird flu from the Bulian District, the Tebing Tinggi City, North Sumatra, on Thursday (31/8), was permitted to come home after being treated for several days in Adam’s Hospital the Owner, Medan, North Sumatra. He was treated because of being expected flattest the bird flu virus because of experiencing the high and breathless fever. This assumption was increasingly strong because hundreds of chickens around the Fatimah house died suddenly because terjangkit the bird flu virus. However, was based on results of the laboratory test against the sample of blood, Fatimah was ascertained by the negative was infected by the bird flu virus. The Fatimah condition that continued to improve made the hospital side allow Fatimah to come home. Now in the Turikale Village, Maros, South Sulawesi, the Livestock Breeding Service again carried out spraying against the poultry. However, the insignificance of counselling about bird flu as well as the extermination that not equitable made some citizens restless. They hoped that the official did not choose the love in destroying the poultry. His article, still was having the poultry belonging to the certain person who was not destroyed
42 possible infections from one small island. :-(
What is going on?
Can someone compare the genetic sequences from this island and compare them with the rest of Indonesia?
mammypoko at 12:02, If I understand your post correctly, I need to move DA and NA from Tulungagung (location of hospital) to Bandung and continue showing them as living suspects. In addition, I need to pick up 3 additional Bandung patients who are not yet listed as follows: Tio Setiyaning Puji (5) who died and tested positive, and the neighbors DAP (1.6) and PR(32).
I’m not sure how to pull up the linked article. I’m showing a date of 7/22 for DA and NA developing symptoms. Do you know the date of death for Tio (5) or the date the others developed symptoms? Thanks for your help.
Simulungun, North Sumatra: update, sex and age on K boru Saragih—apparently a woman who has also suffered a miscarriage and has tested negative. 9–1−06 http://kompas.com/
The patient Suspect Bird Flu was attacked by the Pneumonia Virus The report on the Kompas Reporter of Andy Riza Hidayat Medan, Kompas - the Patient suspect bird flu in Adam’s Public Hospital the Medan Owner, currently in the ‘’‘critical situation. The team of the doctor breakingprep Thursday (31/8) stated R boru L (35) experienced viral pneumonia.’‘’ Resulting from the attack, the R condition boru L headed in the sign of bird flu although beforehand the doctor stated the negative from the virus H5N1. The “kind of the virus of sorts.”
The lungs he (R boru L) was attacked by the virus that could result in the death. The disturbance of the lungs is usually caused by the bacteria, now he by the raging virus, said the chairman of the team of the control of bird flu of RSUP Adam of the expert the Owner Prof Dr Noble Soeroso, on Thursday (31/8) in Medan. According to Noble, the free patient from the virus H5N1 not was significantly also free from the attack of the bird flu virus. “Was based on the DNA test in the Department of the RI Health, he was negative from H5N1.” However, berdasarlan the clinical test and radiologis, that was seen in the photograph x-rayed, R boru L headed suffered bird flu. Only, the virus kind not H5N1, said Noble.
The sign that strengthened this Noble assumption in coming the data trombosit and the patient’s small leucocytes.
His condition increasingly descended post the embryo’s abortion was two months, on Wednesday old (30/8) around struck 21. 00. Noble did not explain whether the abortion was related to consumption of the medicine or not. The husband of the Tight patient Saragih (35) said his wife still in the restoration period after experiencing the bleeding on Wednesday night (30/8). According to him the temperature of his wife’s body on Thursday early afternoon (31/8) 38 levels celcius. “From time to time he was still breathless,” said Tight. Tight with the family’s R member boru L tended around Space of the Longing Isolation of A2 RSUP Adam the Medan Owner. On Thursday early afternoon, R boru L slept with the askew position. The team of the doctor was still installing the infusion to the patient’s body.
Only, the limited space was open in the back door. The family and close relatives could free entered the isolation space without being equipped the protection implement anything. ‘’‘On Thursday early afternoon, two citizens that was treated in the Labuhan Week Community Health Centre, the Medan City could be expected suspect bird flu. However both of them failed was reconciled to RSUP Adam the Owner because results of the temporary analysis of the doctor of two patients suffered the normal fever.’‘’ The “team of the doctor has been ready.” The ambulance has been sent by us there, but still not because of his condition did not yet worry, said the Representative Diektur the Medical Service RSUP Adam the Owner Nurrasyid.
The patient Suspect Bird Flu was attacked by the Pneumonia Virus The report on the Kompas Reporter of Andy Riza Hidayat Medan, Kompas - the Patient suspect bird flu in Adam’s Public Hospital the Medan Owner, currently in the ‘’‘critical situation. The team of the doctor breakingprep Thursday (31/8) stated R boru L (35) experienced viral pneumonia.’‘’ Resulting from the attack, the R condition boru L headed in the sign of bird flu although beforehand the doctor stated the negative from the virus H5N1. The “kind of the virus of sorts.” The lungs he (R boru L) was attacked by the virus that could result in the death. The disturbance of the lungs is usually caused by the bacteria, now he by the raging virus, said the chairman of the team of the control of bird flu of RSUP Adam of the expert the Owner Prof Dr Noble Soeroso, on Thursday (31/8) in Medan. According to Noble, the free patient from the virus H5N1 not was significantly also free from the attack of the bird flu virus. “Was based on the DNA test in the Department of the RI Health, he was negative from H5N1.” However, berdasarlan the clinical test and radiologis, that was seen in the photograph x-rayed, R boru L headed suffered bird flu. Only, the virus kind not H5N1, said Noble. The sign that strengthened this Noble assumption in coming the data trombosit and the patient’s small leucocytes. His condition increasingly descended post the embryo’s abortion was two months, on Wednesday old (30/8) around struck 21. 00. Noble did not explain whether the abortion was related to consumption of the medicine or not. The husband of the Tight patient Saragih (35) said his wife still in the restoration period after experiencing the bleeding on Wednesday night (30/8). According to him the temperature of his wife’s body on Thursday early afternoon (31/8) 38 levels celcius. “From time to time he was still breathless,” said Tight. Tight with the family’s R member boru L tended around Space of the Longing Isolation of A2 RSUP Adam the Medan Owner. On Thursday early afternoon, R boru L slept with the askew position. The team of the doctor was still installing the infusion to the patient’s body.
Only, the limited space was open in the back door. The family and close relatives could free entered the isolation space without being equipped the protection implement anything. ‘’‘On Thursday early afternoon, two citizens that was treated in the Labuhan Week Community Health Centre, the Medan City could be expected suspect bird flu. However both of them failed was reconciled to RSUP Adam the Owner because results of the temporary analysis of the doctor of two patients suffered the normal fever.’‘’ The “team of the doctor has been ready.” The ambulance has been sent by us there, but still not because of his condition did not yet worry, said the Representative Diektur the Medical Service RSUP Adam the Owner Nurrasyid.
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Michelle in OK - Regarding Post #16:43 - This article tells me these two are the same person:
Saribudolok, N. Sumatra - 8/23 K boru Saragih hospitalized Wednesday, RS H Adam the Medan and
Simulungun, N. Sumatra - 8/22 RL or Rasmita Boru Lingga (35F) prepnant - miscarriage - tested Negative
Sorry, I meant to include this quote from article:
The husband of the Tight patient Saragih (35)
Yogyakarta: poss. suspect child (salivary tests neg), not previously reported 9–1−06
http://tinyurl.com/ruw6c On Friday, on September 01 2006, Yogyakarta A CHILD could be expected by TERTULAR; Dozens Of poultries died was attacked by Bird Flu SLEMAN (KR) - Dozens Of kept poultries the citizen in the Godean subdistrict territory, Sleman it was reported died suddenly as a result of the bird flu attack or avian influenza (AI). A child that was expected tertular the illness and was treated six days in RSUP isolation space Dr Sardjito Yogyakarta, but currently was permitted to come home after results of his inspection were stated by the negative from the virus H5N1. the bird flu attack to the kept poultry the citizen in this Godean according to drh Siti Nuraini, the staff in the Co-ordinate office Ii Godean, on Wednesday (30/8) was known since last July 2006. The “death of the chicken resulting from this bird flu indeed did not spread the area like previously, but mengelompok.” The amount around the 20 ‘s the tail of the poultry that died suddenly, he said. Moreover, added Siti Nuraini, in the second week last August 2006, the bird flu attack on the poultry was also found in the other territory in Godean. The poultry that died as a result of the virus attack H5N1 this was found totalling 30 tails more. The “Sleman Livestock Breeding field together with the Godean Community Health Centre side 2 has done counselling to the local citizen, last Sunday (27/8).” Concerning vigilance towards bird flu and guarded the cleanliness of the pen and the environment, explained a staff of the Co-ordinate office Ii Godean other. In Pedukuhan the Distribution, a child was 6 years old could be suspected of being attacked by bird flu after experiencing the cough, pilek and the high fever for several days. After being checked at the same time being checked the laboratory in the Godean Community Health Centre 2, this child then was reconciled to RSUP Dr Sardjito Yogyakarta. “While my grandchild’s six days were treated in this space of the hospital isolation.” All equipment there, including eating was used by one time with. Several weeks beforehand in our village indeed had the poultry that died suddenly with the bluish cock’s comb, said the child’s grandfather. ‘’‘The sample of the child’s saliva according to him also was sent to Jakarta. Results, evidently the child the negative of the attack of the bird flu virus and was permitted to come home since last August 16 2006.’‘’ When KR came to his house, the child is now seen healthy. In his house since long ago did not maintain the chicken or the other poultry. “Two doctors from Jakarta also there are those that came to the house, to take the sample and to check the condition for our health as a family.” All the fees treated inap in RSUP Sardjito yesterday free. Results of the inspection in Jakarta the arrival around 10 days after the sample was sent. Currently we are relieved our grandchild was not affected by bird flu as being expected beforehand, he continued.
More chickens in the river, and officials don’t answer the phone
On Friday, September 01 2006 Bird Flu entered the City? The bird flu virus (avian influenza) again haunted the Jember citizen. After attacking three subdistricts, Puger, Jenggawah, and Balung, currently the deadly virus was indicated began to attack the city territory.It was not half-hearted, this virus attacked in the Jember region of trade centres, that is in the Kaliwates Subdistrict.To be precise, around the region and Nico shops of banking centres in Street Gajah Mada.Observation of this newspaper, the chicken belonging to the citizen in this area died suddenly with the characteristics of the affected chicken the bird flu virus, that is all of his body turned blue and issued mucus.My chickens died suddenly.”This morning (yesterday morning, Red), suddenly his body turned blue and not long afterwards direct matai, said the Hadiyatullah Parrot, the local citizen.The parrot claimed, his chicken died suddenly totalling seven tails and all the bodies him turned blue.His chickens, died directly in the pen.It was impromptu, the young man was 25 years then old then threw his chicken carcass that died to the river near his house away.I was frightened tertular if indeed this was affected by the bird flu virus.I discarded then to the river, although being told by livestock breeding (the Livestock Breeding Service, fisheries, and Marine, Disperikel, Red) to be kept then for the sake of investigation, he explained.
The parrot admitted to contacting Disperikel since yesterday morning. ‘’‘They (Disperikel, Red) the promise will come to my house to give the syringe and to see directly the condition for the chicken that still was remaining,” he said. However, up until the afternoon, this newspaper reporter did not meet the Disperikel official in the Parrot house. Apart from the Parrot, one chicken belonging to the neighbour the Parrot, Siti Aisyah, also there are those that died suddenly with the body turned blue and issued mucus. Currently, several chickens and the poultry belonging to the Parrot that still was remaining showed signs were sick with the body turned blue.’‘’ ‘’‘In the meantime, the Head Disperikel drh Daddy Kusdriana according to the latest report was not yet successful it was confirmed. When being contacted through his cellular channel, canned be heard the tone continued, but was not lifted. Repeated up until several times, continued to be able to be heard the tone continued, but also continued to be not lifted.’‘’ Beforehand, the bird flu virus was stated positive attacked three subdistricts in Jember. At least 500 chickens died because of this virus attack. (eri)
Palu chickens test positive
Jakarta, on August 31: After the Palu City, the turn of the Poso Regency in Central Sulawesi (Sulteng) was found by the positive case of bird flu (Avian influenza/AI) attacked the kept poultry the local citizen. The head of Livestock Breeding of the Production Sub- Service in the Service and Sulteng Livestock Breeding of Plantation Agriculture, Ir Abdul Halim Madaali, in Palu, on Thursday (31/8) said results of the testing against the sample of the chicken belonging to the citizen who will die suddenly early last week positive AI with the sub-title H5N1. The testing of the sample was carried out in the Health Laboratory of the Sulteng Animal and it was continued in the Big Veteriner Maros Hall laboratory (South Sulawesi) that results were received by the beginning of this week. According to Halim Madaali, the Poso Regional Government carried out the step in the mass extermination against all the chicken belonging to the citizen who died suddenly and carried out spraying of the liquid disinfektan. “The process up to now still is continuing,” he said. ‘’‘Apart from the Palu City and the Poso Regency, according to him, in the Tolitoli Regency also it was reported happened the case of the sudden death against the kept poultry the citizen. The “sample of the chicken that died suddenly in Tolitoli still in the process of the testing,” he said.’‘’ Sulteng Governor HB Paliudju, on Thursday early afternoon, issued the circular to all the regent and the mayor in his area during immediately took the step in the prevention of the spreading of the bird flu virus in the territory each with formed the solidest command post that involved the related agency. “Prevention efforts that were carried out together in each territory could release Sulteng from this deadly virus attack,” said Halim Madaali. The case of bird flu was the first time found in Palu when more 20 kept Baharuddin chickens, the citizen Street Datu Pamusu the Kamonji District in the Palu Subdistrict West, died suddenly to last August 9. (cn/broto)
After empty several times, space Slamet, Garut, of the isolation of the doctor’s Public Hospital of West Java, again received two patients. Almost simultaneously, Ridwan’s smoke and Maman entered this room because of experiencing the sign that was similar to bird flu, on Wednesday (30/8). By chance the area of the residence both of them in the Cikelet Village, Garut, had the story of many poultries died. Currently the two patients experience the progress. The condition both of them not like when entering isolation space. Despite this good the smoke, 17 years and Maman, 39 years, were still being given by the handling was proper for the bird flu patient while being waiting for results of the blood inspection. As far as this is concerned the family of the two patients hoped the government immediately checked the poultry in their village. His article many kept poultries the citizen that died suddenly. The citizen also asked that Tamiflu medicine was immediately distributed free
I can take the Excel spreadsheet anytime Dem gives me the OK to post it on the FTP site. You have my email. Had a power supply crash on my new computer and have been trying to play catch up with life ever since. Dang!
To Michelle in OK at 16:41 …
“mammypoko at 12:02, If I understand your post correctly, I need to move DA and NA from Tulungagung (location of hospital) to Bandung and continue showing them as living suspects. In addition, I need to pick up 3 additional Bandung patients who are not yet listed as follows: Tio Setiyaning Puji (5) who died and tested positive, and the neighbors DAP (1.6) and PR(32). I’m not sure how to pull up the linked article. I’m showing a date of 7/22 for DA and NA developing symptoms. Do you know the date of death for Tio (5) or the date the others developed symptoms? Thanks for your help.”
The article has been removed from the site, i don’t think they archive old articles, & just replace with new daily news.
According to the article, Bandung is the subdistrict(kecamatan) where all these suspects lived, not sure location of Tulungagung hospital, as i’ve not been following these Indo outbreaks closely.
Also, the article never mentioned any dates of symptoms onset, hospitalisation in/out, death nor when the +ve result came back.
So, i suppose u can put DA & NA from Bandung(where they lived) or the Tulungagung hospital, whichever is clearer to u.
And based on the article, u can add the other 3 Tio(+ & died), DAP & PR.
cousins
Four treated in Indonesia for H5N1 symptoms 31 Aug 2006 08:46:07 GMT
“JAKARTA, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Four people have been admitted to an Indonesian hospital with bird flu symptoms in an area of West Java that has seen a series of confirmed and suspected cases in humans, officials said on Thursday… “Three people showing symptoms will be allowed to return today. But they will be monitored,” he said, adding that the three lived around chickens and dead fowl had been seen.
He said an 8-year-old boy with bird flu symptoms had also been admitted.. Separately, a local health ministry official said three out of five people admitted to hospital on Indonesia’s Sulawesi island this week with bird-flu like symptoms were related.
“Three are related, they are cousins,” said Ida Bagus Yadnya Putra, head of communicable disease control at the health ministry in Central Sulawesi province.
The official said that dead chickens had been found around their homes.
Sulavesi island
“JAKARTA, Aug 30 (Reuters) - Five people have been admitted to hospital on Indonesia’s Sulawesi island with bird flu-like symptoms and local authorities have sought funds from the government to help cull poultry, officials said on Wednesday.
Samples from the patients in Palu, the capital of Central Sulawesi province, have been sent to a government laboratory in Jakarta to be tested for bird flu, said Runizar Ruesin, head of the ministry’s bird flu information centre.
No further details about the five people were available.”
I revisit IndoOutbreak II thread for Tulungagung cases & came across [[http://www.jawapos.com/index.php?act=detail_radar&id=136334&c=115|Don’t Hide AI 8/27] article posted by Influentia2
It was basically a plea/outcry from the public to the authorities in Bandung not to hide or have closed policy on H5N1/bird flu outbreaks.// I found the following interesting: Masyarakat dibuat gempar karena ada kasus flu burung yang tahu-tahu korbannya telah meninggal. Dia juga mengharapkan agar kasus tersebut tidak terulang lagi. which means …
The people were fearful because they knew of bird flu suspect cases(humans) that died. They hoped these cases will not be repeated.
Also to add to the article referred to on my previous post, it was stated 9 suspected cases blood samples from Bandung were sent to HK lab for testing of which 1 came back +ve (TioSP), others were negative or still awaiting results. Perhaps we need to watch more news coming from Bandung subdistrict.
News
Bandung Newspaper:
”Suspect” Bird Flu entered Space of Isolasi Garut, (HOMEWORK).
- A patient suspect bird flu again entered RSU Dr. Slamet Garut, on Thursday (31/8). This time had a name Syahril fortune (8), the citizen of the Village Cikelet the Cikelet Kec Village. Cikelet, Garut.
He entered the most big and most complete hospital in Kab. This Garut approximately struck 13. 20 WIB with the condition was not too serious. The “Syahril condition in fact not critical.”
But because that was relevant experienced similar signs suspect bird flu, we memasukan him to isolation space. Moreover he came from the Cikelet area, said Dr. Johnson Manurung from RSU Dr. Slamet Garut. Syahril came to RSU Dr. Slamet was brought by the ambulance from Cikelet, approximately struck 13. 20 WIB. Like that arrived in RSU Dr. Slamet, he was immediately placed in RSU isolation space Dr. Slamet Garut to receive the maintenance.
Reconciliation from the Cikelet Community Health Centre, he was suspected suspect bird flu. According to Johnson, the Syahril condition was at this time considered to be stable. Nevertheless, the temperature of his body was high enough to achieve 39 levels celsius. “His pulse revolved 120 per 80, with respiration 36 times per the minute,” he said. Explained the matter of the patient suspect bird flu that just came, Kasubag Information RSU of the Customer’s Service Dr. Slamet Yogie Prayogi said, his side did not yet plan to reconcile Syahril to RSHS Bandung. Syahril will as in the case of the other patient receive the maintenance previously from RSU Dr. Slamet. In the meantime, the patient suspect bird flu that beforehand entered RSU Dr. Slamet, namely Ridwan’s smoke (17), Maman (39), as well as Direct (60), has been stated healthy. Therefore, that was relevant was returned to his house was their respective, on Thursday (31/8), approximately struck 13.
Love the Indo outbreak thread!! Thanks all of you who work so hard on it!!! Small suggestion - wonder if there is any way to ‘reverse’ the way the thread reads - i.e. current day’s cases right under th emap on the top of the page, then work backwards to the day it started?? Wd be a bit easier to keep up with current news and see history/backtrack? Wd that be possible/desirable??
mammypoko, I’m unsure how to document this article. I’m showing 9 patients already as having been in the Bandung hospital (but they are all from Cikelet). So it isn’t clear to me that there are new patients, except Tio’s name and the initials PR and DAP don’t match anyone listed. So, I’ve tentatively added these 3 dated 8/27 in Bandung.
From other posts today, I’ve added 3 in Cikelet, 2 of which we don’t have names for and are at home.
Commonground at 17:43, I deleted the duplicate post (left the location as Simulungun).
Thanks to all. Okieman, the map is fantastic!
Dude, thanks for the spreadsheet offer. I saw your post on the earlier thread as well and appreciate your efforts. I’ll try to get the spreadsheet cleaned up to a point where it can be posted this weekend.
DennisC at 12:28
Thank you. I saw the search box soon after I posted, but somehow missed it before. I have only had time to read a few posts but am very impressed with the great job and hard work everyone is doing. Thank you!
I apologize, but will not be able to do any reseasrch on cases/suspected cases in West java-(too many other things going on now)
Mamypoko,
I still have all the articles somewhere for Tio and the 9 suspected. I have to go to work soon so I am short on time. I will find them and post the links for you tonight.
Thank you for the translations and helping to make things clearer.
Michelle in OK - I caught this from Okieman’s post at 22:48, and I don’t know if you’ve got it. I think it’s saying they were sent home - but not sure?
“In the meantime, the patient suspect bird flu that beforehand entered RSU Dr. Slamet, namely Ridwan’s smoke (17), Maman (39), as well as Direct (60), has been stated healthy. Therefore, that was relevant was returned to his house was their respective, on Thursday (31/8), approximately struck 13″.
Simulungun, North Sumatra: update on Rasmita Lingga, conflicting test results, and description of isolation practices. 8–31–06 http://tinyurl.com/qf24s
31 Aug 06 14:08 WIB Isolation Space Suspect Bird Flu RSUPAM Not Steril Medan, was on the alert Online
Isolation space for the maintenance of the patient suspect bird flu in RSUP H Adam the Medan Owner (RSUPAM), not sterile. As a result of the front door to the room was closed was in a meeting whereas the back door part evidently was not closed. Observation was on the alert on Tuesday (29/8), in fact the room back door of the isolation for the bird flu patient, A RSUPAM Longing Space, was directly neighbouring with the room of the other patient. However was allowed to be open wide.
Now all along the building terrace often roamed about the patient’s other family that underwent treated inap. The room back door that was open same came directly face to face with the garden behind RSUPAM, the place where many of the patient’s other families that were treated gathered while resting. According to the patient’s other family, that was treated the contiguous room from the patient’s space suspect bird flu, the doctors and the nurse that was assigned in the room to say to them this patient in fact not terjangkit the bird flu virus.
Initially we were frightened also saw the door to his room often was open, and many of his families that went out entered freely from the door. But, after the doctor and the nurse said him not terjangkit the bird flu virus, we so not takut,” said one of the patient’s families.
Now beforehand, Pelayanan Medis RSUPAM Deputy Director Dr. M Nur Rasyid, SpB that was met was on the alert said, although the condition suspect bird flu, RL, 34, the Simalungun citizen began to improve, ‘’‘the patient still could not be stated by the bird flu negative We were still being waiting for results of the sample inspection of blood of Jakarta, to determine whether suspect that was positive or negative terjangkit the flu virus burung,’‘’ he said He said, the patient was still needing the intensive maintenance in the room of the isolation. While the doctors and the nurse who handled the patient must be supplemented with protective clothes as well as the mask and the spectacles……
WHO confirmed Umar (17M) from Cikelet as positive.
Positive casualties Bird Flu improved Jakarta, the Stand - the Command Post of the Health of the Department’s bird flu reported that positive casualties bird flu improved again. The casualties had the initials “U”, the man was 17 years old. He lived in the Ranca Salak Village, the Cikelet Subdistrict, the Garut Regency, West Java.
“Casualties have been stated positive bird flu was based on results of the research of casualties’s specimen of the Balitbangkes laboratory and NAMRU-2…”
Commonground at 6:05… thanks, I listed them as released.
musings: Rasmita did not have a miscarriage. She started to bleed and they performed a D&C (Dilatation and Curettage) on her. In my readings they kept using the word “Curette.” I wonder if they are performing H5N1 testing on the contents of the pregnancy. Doubtful, as it was only a 2 month pregnancy. But it would be nice to know if it is transferred in utero
Morning pugmom. I have Rasmita down as testing negative. Do you have info otherwise? I put a Help Wanted post in the news thread for W. Java. Grace RN won’t be able to continue.
Turikale, SE Sulawesi: article dated 8–29–06: recounting of 7, not 6, suspect cases. Some confusion—Kartini (28) (on our summary), not in this article, but a 60 yo person, Dg Mawi, is. Also they cite a student not previously included. http://tinyurl.com/owys6
Maros, the Stand — totalling seven citizens Street Dr Ratulangi, the Environment Lorijirang Ii, the Turikale District, the Turikale Subdistrict, Maros, it was suspected suffered bird flu. From seven people, six people including being taken by the example of his blood to be checked in the laboratory for decisive terjangkit bird flu or not. They who were taken by the example of his blood were Nursari (46), Dg Mawi (60), Syaiful (28), Hernan (21), Dg Sallang (65), and Undergo (36 According to the Survalance Puskemas Aliritengae Head, Andi Rasnawati, on Tuesday (29/8), Desi, the I class student of one of the senior high schools in this area, was not yet taken by the example of his blood because of going to school The case of the assumption terjangkit bird flu or Avian influenza (AI) that was reported by Kartini (28) to the Aliritengae Community Health Centre, on Saturday (26/8). He saw his husband, Undergo (36), experienced flu was accompanied baktuk-cough since Thursay (24/8). Kartini reported this case because of his husband suffered flu after burnt buried the chicken carcass that was thrown away by the person behind their house. According to him, several of his neighbours who worked as the free breeder also experienced the sign of flu was accompanied by coughs after their chicken died suddenly, just recently. The head Survalance the Health Service of the Maros Regency, Andi Ali Reza, said, the six people who were taken by the example of his blood still could not be ascertained positive suffered bird flu. “We just concluded after having results of the laboratory test, a week afterwards.” To prevent this virus developing then the six patients were given medicine tamiflu as well as vitamins becom that was drunk twice a day, he explained. Rasnawati said, they not yet there are those that experienced the fever. They only experienced flu was accompanied by the cough…..
Commonground at 8:42, I will be back home from working away for the summer on Tuesday(Sept.5),I would be very happy to help with the west Java surveillance from that time on.
Let me know what you guys think…
sorry, I’m on my B-I-L’s computer, that was me above:-)
MaMa sounds good to me. Can someone comprise a new list? My editing skills leave a lot to be desired……
MaMa sounds good to me. Can someone comprise a new list? My editing skills leave a lot to be desired……
Question:
Are we viloating copyrights by reprinting Indonesian articles in their entirety here? They tend to be very long and take up a lot of thread space. Might it be better to just paste a relevant portion of the article (as on teh news thread) with a link - even if the article is not in English and those who want to read the entire thing will have to toggletext it?
XanonymousX – at 11:15
My understanding (not a lawyer) is that the Fair Use doctrine allows for using a portion of a news article for comment and criticism. The advice I was given was to use no more than 3 paragraphs, and allow comments. Having ”pure” news listing by copying a significant portion of longer articles (or using the entire article) is a “no-no” - But using small portions of articles and allowing comments and critiques is OK. The idea is that you just cannot copy someone elses articles and open your own news paper or news service.
I try to just post the “important part” and then link to the article. And again, my understanding is that we have to allow comments on the article to stay legal even if some don’t like to see comments.
DennisC – at 11:26
Thank you for that.
It has seemed to me that people are toggletexting entire articles and posting them here. I was concerned that we might be violating fair use laws in doing this - and those darned things are so long when put up in their entirety. What’s more, machine translations make for lousy reading.
When someone posts an entire article, I feel like, “Wow, I’d better read the entire thing. Every word here must be imporant for someone to have seen fit to post the whole thing.”
It would be nice if people would only post what is most relevant from the article and not the whole thing. Of course this is just one person’s opinion.
Commonground at 11:08, thanks. I’ll start as soon as I get back. In the meantime, I’ll use my spare moments to catch up on recent events in Indonesia to start off on the right foot.
XanonymousX at 11:32 -
I second your idea on posting just the more relevant excerpts from the Indonesian articles.
Some days I would have time for little else after I deciphered and digested those articles. Then, I’m not really sure I’m understanding them correctly, so it kinda seems pointless. Since I do have a life outside FluWiki, I just can’t devote that much time to the articles and usually just scan them and then look to the summaries for the facts and figures. And no headache;) JMO
(Fluwikie posters jailed for trying to save lives) Illuminati pushes for the shutdown of www.fluwikie.com
Really, folks, dont worry about copyright. This is a website trying to help people.
Unfortunately…we who have devoted our very valuable time, do have to read the whole article and decide what is relevant. And we are just as busy as everyone else. We will only post what is relevant, or what we can interpret as relevant. It’s just as hard for us the figure this stuff out. We all have a life outside FluWiki.
Semarang, Central Java—new patient? Female, initials SH. Hospital name Karyadi appears to be new name too. Also reference to other villagers treated. 9–2−06
Metrotvnews.com, Jakarta: A patient suspect bird flu that was treated in the Hospital Doctor Karyadi, Semarang, Central Java, did still not show signs improved. In fact the female patient had the initials the SH name was 35 years old already a week was treated in this hospital At this time, SH was treated intensive in Isolation Space of RS Doctor Karyadi.
Beforehand, villagers Dresi Kulon Rembang, this had an opportunity for three days to be treated in RS Suwondo, Pati, Central Java The head of the Medic’s Service RS Karyadi, Agus Suryanto said the patient had the story of contact with ungas belonging to him that died suddenly. To ascertain his illness, the sample of SH blood was sent to the Jakarta Body of Health Research And Development. For 2006, RS Doctor Karyadi treated 10 patients suspect bird flu. One of the him died with the positive diagnosis bird flu. (BEY)
Semarang, Central Java: name on patient above—Symptoms for 1 week—not reported before. 9–1−06 http://tinyurl.com/lj2tk
Semarang: Sri Hastuti, the patient with the sign of bird flu, was treated in space Karyadi, Semarang, of the isolation of the doctor’s Hospital of Central Java. This Rembang citizen already seven days were treated but the hospital side just published him today. Several days before being sick, the kept Sri chicken died suddenly without because………
pugmom at 16:56
FYI
Can’t get my email to work right now, I will try looking for some East Java news and try my email again in a little bit.
pugmom at 16:56
FYI
I can’t translate either, only about 1/2 of what I try to open will open.
There are articles here http://tinyurl.com/l7pjj
I think about West Java poultry and here http://tinyurl.com/sx5l5
this one about money, I was curious about them, you don’t need to post all of the articles just the relevant portions. Thanks
1st article about more poultry deaths/vaccinations. 2nd article about the World Bank getting on Indo for not doing a good job, but finally will allocate $100 million (US dollars) in the year 2007 to fight BF. Hope you get email fixed.
Pugmom at 18:06
Thank you.
I called and it is our ISP problem and they are working on it.
I can get on here and google and that’s about it.
I just tried email and it’s still not working.
pugmom, thanks for all the info. I’ve tried to post it properly. I called the date on the Semarang patient 8/26 since the hospitalization was for a week already. I’m hesitant to include the 9 other patients from Semarang as they could have been early in 2006, and I think the scope of this info capture begins in July, after the earlier Jakarta cluster ended. Maybe more information will come out on them if they are recent cases.
But that brings me to a question. On the WHO’s website, Updates 24 & 25 for situation in Indonesia, they have listed a 16 year old male from West Java who died on Aug-7 and a 17 year old female from Jakarta Province who died on Aug-8.
We didn’t pick up these earler cases, because we really started by following the Cikelet cases. But since this project has expanded, if we’re going to offer a true count since late July, I think these cases should be added. I’ve also added additional info and changed a few dates for the Cikelet patients to incorporate symptom dates posted by WHO.
Commonground 13:56
DITTO
There wouldn’t be a summary or a map if someone hadn’t used their time to find the links to post the articles, very time consuming. Anyone else care to volunteer?
XanonymousX – at 11:32 Influentia2 – at 19:09 Commonground 13:56
To those of you who are working so very hard on this, keep up the good work.
Post what is easist for you as you are the ones sweating blood trying to get it rigth.
You folks are the best.
Thanks Guys…..
Thanx Michelle! When can we expect the unpdated, updated version? It helps me so much. Also, thanx so much to all of you have written in giving us encouragement and cheering us on. Sometimes my posts have been long, sometimes people want more information. I am trying to consolidate info though and put the important stuff in bold. Yesterday, it all ran together in my head and I couldn’t concentrate. Today has been better, but we all are relying on Michelle so much. I post the new stuff, but am guilty of not always writing it down on my own latest summary. To those of you working on the map, I want to tell you, the presentation of the info in that format hits you between the eyes like a ton of bricks. Another thing that had the same effect on me today: I have all the villages/provinces in memory when I call up Google. Today I took a look at all the places we have heard reports from (most we haven’t heard much later), but the sheer volume of names was pretty mind-blowing.
Michelle—I bet Influentia2 may know the names of those earlier cases. Her cases go back awhile.
Mamypoko 22:39 some of this is several weeks old, been going on awhile.
Here are some links concerning the 22:39 post. I have been trying to follow this awhile. Maybe you can make some sense of it.
Excerpt: As is known Tulungagung became one of the endemic areas of bird flu. The Media’s Indonesian note mentioned in 2003 - 2004 at least 300 thousand livestock, especially the chicken in the area died and were destroyed because of being affected by AI.
Excerpt:
The concern would the AI danger increasingly big after two older brothers were siblings from the Sukowiyono Village, the Karangrejo Subdistrict, namely Adtya, 11 months and Rizal, 7, was run off with to the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) Dr Iskak because diindikasi suspect bird flu.
Aditya had finally died after experiencing the high fever, coughs as well as breathless. Whereas Rizal could be treated for a week because of the similar sign.
Later after being done by the verification of the sample of blood in RSU Dr Soetomo Surabaya for the time being Rizal the AI virus negative.
Excerpt:
Metrotvnews.com, Tulungagung: the Animal Service the Tulungagung Regency, East Java on Wednesday (5/7), finally took the sample of blood and the organ in the poultry in the Sukorejo Village, the Bandu Subdistrict, Tulungagung. This was carried out following the discovery of the case of bird flu that killed a child was five years in this village old. Casualties Nur Setianing Praise died on June 14
EXCERPT:
The Interactive TIME, Tulungagung:’‘’ the Kediri Territory, Blitar, and Tulungagung were stated endemi bird flu. This decision followed the death Nursetyaning Praise, that was stated positive was affected by the virus avian influenza (HN51).’‘’ The child was the citizen’s 5 years RT 01/RW old 03, the Nglempung Village, Sukohardjo, that died to last June 16. Officially Tulungagung Regency Livestock Breeding, East Java, immediately appointed alert one.
Excerpt:
However the Office of the Tulungagung Regency of the Health Service has taken three samples of blood of casualties’s family. They were Here, 23 years, Arpan (3), and Mbah WO (60).
Excerpt:
Two unlucky children had the initials DA, was 5 years old, and NA, was 5 months old. Both of them came from the Bandung Subdistrict. Both of them were taken his blood to ascertain this assumption. The sample of blood was brought to the Hall of the Health Laboratory (BLK) Surabaya and the Laboratory in Hong Kong. That was revealed Kasubdin the Prevention and the Eradication of infectious diseases (P2PM) Dinkes Tulungagung, Bahrudin Budi Santoso yesterday. According to him, the sample of blood of the two casualties was sent to Surabaya to last July 16. And up until now his side does not yet get results of the test of the laboratory. “We did not yet know whether positive or negative was affected by AI?” Because results of the laboratory up until now do not yet come. Usually results of the lab come four to one weeks. Excerpt:
They casualties’s neighbour was killed that was stated positive bird flu, Tio Setiyaning Praise, 5, villagers Sukoharjo, the Bandung Subdistrict. The “sample of blood of two people up until immediately was not yet known by results,” he explained. Till now, said Bahrudin, his side sent ‘’‘nine people of the sample of blood to Hong Kong. But that was stated positive only one person, Tio Setyaning Praise.’‘’
Excerpt:
On Saturday, July 29 2006 Two Free TULUNGAGUNG Bird Flu- the sample Puzzle of blood that was suspected terjangkit the virus avian influenza (AI) that was sent to the Hong Kongese Laboratory was answered. The sample of property blood of a woman had the initials HOMEWORK, 32 years, and DAP was 1.6 years old, was stated by the negative. Now, the sample of blood of two pre-schoolers, up to now results are not yet finished.
Excerpt:
Added by him, until this his side was still being waiting for results of the lab of two samples of other blood. Namely the sample of blood of two pre-schoolers who also were suspected terjangkit bird flu. If the sample of blood of two pre-schoolers was just sent on July 17 yesterday and up until now results did not yet come.
Excerpt:
Six samples of other blood were stated by the negative, whereas that two samples still do not yet have results.
Michelle 18:58
Pugmom is right I have those too. I can give you some excerpts if you like. I believe one is Meggi Supatra and the other is Okkie Jalina. I will verify them and get back to you.
I have read in several articles now that Indonesia is still sending bloodsamples to Hong Kong. I thought they don’t have to send it there anymore? , if the tests are done in 2 local labs??
Excerpt:
Oki casualties Bird Flu died 8th in Jakarta on Wednesday, August 09 2006 | 03:13 WIB the Interactive TIME, Jakarta: the Okky Jelina Death, 17 years, on Monday, increased long the list of the patient died resulting from bird flu.He became casualties died 8th year round 2006 in Jakarta
Excerpt:
Every day Oki lived in Street Ketapang Kebon Kosong Breakingprep Gang 23 RT 6/3 Kemayoran.However, he was treated in the Asih Karawaci Main Point Hospital, Tangerang.”Enter the date Hospital 4 and died on August 8,” said Evi.The representative of the Section Head the Health Salimar Healthy added, Oki was the first case in August.
Now the Megi Saputra body, the positive patient was infected by other bird flu that died overnight was buried in the Jagawana Village, Cikarang North, Bekasi, West Java. Before being buried the Megi body disalatkan in the house. Megi was third casualties who died resulting from bird flu from 14 people who it was suspected were infected by the virus avian sub-type influenza H5N1 in Bekasi. According to Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari, the case that struck Megi and Oki not the new attack this deadly illness. “Not the new wave, but still in the same wave,” said Menkes. He added, the case of bird flu in the Motherland indeed still could not be handled completely.
Excerpt:
A patient was expected by bird flu again was treated in the Sulianti Saroso Infection Hospital, Sunter, Jakarta North. Megi Saputra was treated in intensive maintenance space (ICU) since three days set with the critical condition. Up to now the origin patient in the Asih Coral Village, Cikarang North, the Bekasi Regency, West Java did not yet make itself aware
Excerpt:
According to Sadiyah, his mother, Megi beforehand was touching with the poultry died in his house. Sadiyah also said, Megi could be [was] treated in the Cikarang Community Health Centre. However because hot high and breathless never descended, Megi had finally been sent to RSPI Sulianti Saroso.
I have another article about Megi telling about her parents being tested also. I can’t find it right now. Tells that Megi is 16. I will look some more.
EXCERPT:
Beforehand Contact with the Poultry that died Mendadak Semarang
- Other suspect bird flu was treated in Semarang.
The patient had the initials SH, 35, this already approximately 8 days are counted up until today (on Saturday, 2/9), was treated in RS Dr. Kariadi. Nevertheless, the team of the doctor who handled him, said that the condition for the patient from Rembang this continued to improve. The SH patient from Dresekan, the Kaliori District, this Kaliori Subdistrict could be beforehand treated in RS Dr. Suwondo, Pati. While 3 days were treated, his condition was stated continued to worsen.’
Excerpt:
The condition for the patient was also aggravated with the diabetes illness melitus that was contracted by him. So, while being treated in isolation space, SH was also treated as the diabetes patient mellitus. “But as the risky patient high, SH continued to be given by us tamiflu because his diabetes illness increasingly facilitated the patient tertular AI,” obviously Agus. After seven days were treated, Agus considered the SH condition increasingly improved.
Excerpt:
According to Agus, the SH blood specimen at this time still was checked in the laboratory in Jakarta. Results of the blood test that was sent last Saturday that, was estimated finished on Monday (4/9) next week. While being treated in the hospital, SH was always guarded by the family.
Excerpt: Entered the rain season this September, the bird flu virus could fast spread to humankind.Officially Livestock Breeding (Disnak) Banyuwangi dismissed the call was on the alert bird flu yesterday.The “first dangerous point the spreading that is along the river current.”
They have formed 2 teams to spray disinfectant on call 24 hours a day, get 3–4 calls a day.(mine)
Excerpt: The chicken that died this belonging to Mahali, 75, the citizen of the Pengantigan District. The characteristics of the chicken that died that his mouth issued mucus. The colour of the head and the chest of the chicken that died that turned blue. ‘’‘This chicken was found died suddenly in the Mahali house. The old man had the chicken coop in the house. Even, the position of this pen was precisely in his house. Of course this condition made very anxious the official Disnak Banyuwangi.’‘’ (I hope that is a translation snafu!) The official at once sprayed all the house at the same time menyuntik all the chicken belonging to the man.
Thank you so much for those articles Influentia2. It took me awhile to piece them together, but they cleared up lots of pieces.
I had Bandung as W. Java which was making no sense when the Tulungagung hospital was in E. Java. I finally realized that Tio (5) is the boy that the WHO’s update 21 discusses. Bandung is in E. Java. Tio died on June 16, which is before our tracking period, but because his neighbors were tested (negative) within our period, I’ve added him to the list. But please note when the spreadsheet gets uploaded, I’m not counting Tio in the cumulative tally.
Michelle,
Bandung is in W. Java. Tulungagung is in E. Java.
Sorry if that clarification makes things difficult again.
Okieman, I hope there is a Bandung Subdistrict in E. Java (see article at 20:08.) Otherwise, the file I just sent you and dude has an incorrect location. Perhaps it is a city vs subdistrict confusion. The file is labeled Bandung Subdistr. since I couldn’t determine the city.
To all tracking the news, I hope the upload of the spreadsheet can be done, because it is much easier than copy/paste for me. If it can’t be posted for some reason, I’ll go back to the old method.
Its late, so I’m not making further changes tonight or they will likely be wrong. I think I didn’t put Tulungagung as the city, because I thought that was just the location of the hospital and not necessarily where the patients were from.
In hindsight, it looks like the article does in fact discuss dead chickens in Tulungagung. I’ll take a fresh look tomorrow. Okieman, if you are of the opinion that Tulungagung is the city, feel free to show it that way on your next map. Thanks.
Michelle,
Would this be the cause of the discrepancy? Below are excerpts from the 20:08 post. Notice the words I have made bold. You might might go back and look and see if you misread. Easy to do with these toggletext translations.
“Metrotvnews.com, Tulungagung: the Animal Service the Tulungagung Regency, East Java on Wednesday (5/7), finally took the sample of blood and the organ in the poultry in the Sukorejo Village, the Bandu Subdistrict, Tulungagung. This was carried out following the discovery of the case of bird flu that killed a child was five years in this village old. Casualties Nur Setianing Praise died on June 14″
<and further down>
“They casualties’s neighbour was killed that was stated positive bird flu, Tio Setiyaning Praise, 5, villagers Sukoharjo, the Bandung Subdistrict. The “sample of blood of two people up until immediately was not yet known by results,” he explained. Till now, said Bahrudin, his side sent ‘’‘nine people of the sample of blood to Hong Kong. But that was stated positive only one person, Tio Setyaning Praise”
Go ahead and get some sleep Michelle. This can wait till morning to sort out. I can make changes in the spreadsheet you sent me if need be.
Here’s my latest take on the Maros group:
--- —Several unnamed neighbors of J & K, maybe #’s 2–5?
dbg, Thanks… that matches my understanding.
The current tally is up to 81. Please be aware that almost all of the increase is from picking up older cases from articles which have resurfaced. We started following only the Cikelet cases, but since the tracking has expanded, I thought other areas which had cases needed to be included from late July forward. Only Syahril fortune (8M) was a recent addition dated 8/31.
Again, thanks to all the news searchers for identifying and highlighting the relevant information.
Pati/Semarang, Central Java: more info on SH (symptoms for about 1 week)
Denpasar, (?region); new case, baby “GA” age 8 months
Kendari, SE Sulawesi: DF (age 5) and And (age1) found negative
http://tinyurl.com/pe9ml 9–2−06
….in the place was different, after almost five Central Javan months “aman” from the case of bird flu that attacked humankind, at the end of last August suddenly emerged the patient with the affected indication of bird flu.
‘’‘The patient had the initials SH (35 years, the citizen Kaliori, the Rembang Regency. He was since last week treated in isolation space of RS Dr Kariadi Semarang. The head of public relations of RS Dr Kariadi Agus Suryanto explained, SH was reconciliation from RS Suwondo in Pati after being treated there for four days.
Signs were sick pneumonia, breathless, and the cough made the doctor in Pati send SH to Semarang to the better handling’‘’ Central Java will have been stated as the area of the extraordinary incident during the case of bird flu to mid March 2006.
‘’While in Denpasar, a baby was eight GA months old, the Tabanan citizen currently gets the intensive maintenance in the Hospital (RS) Denpasar because of being expected terjangkit the virus avian influenza (AI) or bird flu. This assumption emerged because GA experienced the high fever since five previous days’‘’
However, Kasi the Medic’s Service Treat Street RS Denpasar Ken Wirashandi when it was confirmed explained, from results of the clinical inspection and anamnesis, was sick that was suffered by GA did not head to bird flu
In the meantime in Kendari, the sample of blood of the patient’s two children suspect (was expected) DF bird flu (5) and And (1,2) was stated by the bird flu negative by laboratoriun the Jakarta health…..
Denpasar is capital city of Bali. Formerly known (and sometimes still used) as Badung. Name alert—don’t confuse with Bandung. So now we have a possible case in a new area, Bali.
Dude - do I go to that address in the Summary thread to view the spreadsheet (w/the password, etc.)??
I just came home and looked at the map. Wow. I don’t even know how all this occurred. Good thing we are keeping track everyone. I am so proud of us!!! Jakarta??? I didn’t know we had a case in Jakarta!
Bali is an Indonesian island located at 8‹25Œ23S, 115‹14Œ55E, one of the Lesser Sunda Islands, and one of the country’s 33 provinces. It is in a chain with Java to the west and Lombok to the east
yes, please tell me how I get the new summary, and use idiot-proof language!
pugmom - at 13:25: This site, I just went to it. Do I go to Nasional to get bird flu info? Is this a paper out of Java? I didn’t see a search function to type in anythng. I feel like I need more resources. You have been excellent in picking up cases, great job! Hope I’m not missing anything in Sumatra….
CG—try this link http://tinyurl.com/nx8bh It is “Sinar Harapan” newspaper. Here are some more, “weird” links:
While I have you on the phone, how do I get a summary? I tried going to that ftp://… site, but no dice. Help! Also have you been able to copy the map? I can’t paste it.
CG, Influentia2, dbg, et al: WOW—look at this link!
pugmom - thank you so much. If you can’t open the ftp blah blah blah file, go to ask the mods thread. The spreadsheet is SO IMPRESSIVE. I have a mac and it opened in Claris Works because I don’t have Exel (sp?) on this computer. That may be the culprit.
thanx CG—on that link above that shows the papers and their locations: no addresses with them, but I just typed the names into Google and most came right up.
pugmom, When I first click on the link, I get an error page. Then I hit the refresh button (circular arrows) and the login screen popped up. It worked that way twice for me, so you might try refresh. The file you want is called “Bird Flu Indonesia Upload 9–01 (2)”. That data should match Okieman’s map.
Link is repeated here: ftp://www.singtomeohmuse.com/
Commonground, the Jakarta case was within our time frame, so I picked it up from the WHO link at 18:58, update 25.
As usual, please review the data in your area to ensure everything is posted properly. Thanks.
Michelle in OK - your spreadsheet is so very impressive. Thank you and Dude for helping get it together. And also the Mods!
Michelle—thanx for helping me upload and copy new summary—I’m lost without it. An amazing piece of work you did. Any suggestions on how to print out Okieman’s map?
CG—sorry, I overlooked your question/post concerning Rasmita yesterday. Yes, I have her as negative. It just dawned on me that she is the same person as K Boru Saragih. (I thought it was just a little bit odd that two 35 y.o. women were having miscarriages!)
pugmom, Thanks. I didn’t really mean to capture that much information when it started, but that is the only way I could keep people’s names straight.
The map is a .jpg file. I saved it to “My Pictures” and can pull it up with the program I use to print digital pictures. Beware if you want to print it though, since the background is dark blue it will take a lot of ink to print. I’ll likely just pull it up and view online full screen. It is really useful that way.
pugmom – at 17:18, If you go to the link below you can print out the map.
http://www.fluwikie.com/uploads/Geographic/Cases3.pdf
On a different note. Michelle pointed out to me that what I have down as a town, Sukabumi, was the name of the hospital. The town where the case probably should be accounted for is Cisolok. The reason this is of some significance is that Cisolok is in West Java, not in Sumatra where I have mapped Sukabumi being located. I have changed my map and Michelle has changed her spreadsheet, but unless the mods and Dude want to go through the hassel of changing the map and uploading the corrected spreadsheet we will wait until the next update to make the corrections on the Wiki. Let us know if it should be done differently. One of the problems with the data I am using for populated places in Indonesia is that there might be 5–10 places with the same name. There are multiple villages with the same name. This shouldn’t be surprising, it is the same here in the US but it does make it difficult to identify the correct location at times to report on the map. If you notice closely, the location of Cikelet has changed in the present map versus the previous one. There are two places named Cikelet, but one of the news articles mentioned it being south of Bandung, so I changed the map to make the correction. There could be additional issues similar to this, so just be aware of it and let me know if a correction needs to be made. Thanks.
CG—did the summary miss those 3 patients from SE Sulawesi you posted yesterday at 12:03 (Mutmaina, Haris, and Sri?)
Michelle in OK – at 18:03
It has been posted as a .pdf at the link I mention above. I might make for a better picture on your computer using it.
Correction “It might make for a better picture”
CG—nevermind, I found those 3 people (I have been reading the summary wrong—small print, you know, not bad eyes.)
Ya’ll might want to check out this link for news sources in Indonesia. It is not all comprehensive I have found, but it is quite good.
pugmom - at 18:13, you’re eye’s are probably fine - on the other hand I don’t even remember posting the 3 people. I’m sticking to posting only Sumatra, because otherwise I end up where I was before we broke into teams……I’ve been combing the sites you sent me and posting a few things over at the news thread. So far, Sumatra is quiet… :-)
Okieman - thanks for the map, it’s awesome. I’ll checkout the site you posted.
Michelle in OK - good idea about saving the map, I should have thought of that. Would it refresh/reload when I hit the refresh button?
Okieman, you are right, it is much clearer viewing the .pdf file instead of as a .jpg. Commonground, I don’t know about the refresh regarding the map.
It would be handy to have the map open at the same time as researching and posting. I’m going to try the ( ) designation before the link and see if it works.
Link to Map Window
Yeah! It worked, but the description of what I did disappeared. Between the parenthesis was (% newwin %) without spaces.
I had the spreadsheet set to fit on 2 legal pages when it prints, but it does make the size really small and hard to read. If you have Excel, you can set it to print however you’d like under File - Page Setup. You can also hide columns if there is information you don’t want to print by putting the cursor in that column and choosing Format - Column - Hide. You can also change the paper size, etc… Whatever you do won’t affect anyone else as we don’t have the capability to resave a modified file.
PS: File - Page Setup - Print preview will keep you from wasting a lot of paper like I’ve done in the past. Then it will be the way you want it when you finally do print.
Michelle in OK - if visitors hold down their SHIFT key and then click the link it aill open in a new window - I use that option regularly to check out links from this site. Hope that helps :-)
AnnieB, I did not know that. Thank you very much. It saves so much time when you don’t have to wait for the discussion thread to refresh each time you come back from a link.
(I’m just now becoming Internet literate… it’s amazing what the threat of a global illness will motivate you to learn.)
AnnieB – at 20:39 You are brilliant! Thanks, that will save so much time and effort.
South Sulawesi heads-up: 11 people tested: Only initials at this time article dated 8–31–06 (note: this initials and ages do not match the ones wie have listed for South Sulawesi. http://tinyurl.com/hwk6g
On Thursday, 31–08–2006 4 the Citizen Bone was expected Suspect Bird Flu Watampone, the Stand — the Health Service (Dinkes) the Bone Regency sent the example of blood that was taken from four citizens who were expected suspect bird flu to the Health Service (Dinkes) South Sulawesi, two last weeks. In pelaporan the data dinkes was mentioned, four citizens were expected suspect the virus H5N1. They were the owner of the positive chicken bird flu. The example of their blood was still being checked in the laboratory of Dinkes South Sulawesi to prove whether they were positive bird flu or not.
Dinkes Bone also sent the example of property blood of seven other citizens who had carried out direct contact with the chicken that terjangkit bird flu. They were the citizen of the Tanete Riattang Subdistrict and Two Boccoe. The blood sampling was carried out since the date 24 till last August 28. Hundreds of tails of the chicken in two subdistricts it was known died suddenly as a result of the Avian virus influenza. They who were sent by the example darahn of the Tanete Riattang Subdistrict was NM (43), FR (13), IF (17), HR (13), and RS (13)
Whereas from the Subdistrict Two Boccoe was NR (39), AR (45), Ms (47), and MY (50)
Not Bird Flu The HEAD Sub the Control Service of Dinkes Bone infectious diseases, Nuraman Jamil, that it was confirmed in his office, on Thursday (31/8), denied it if the example of blood belonging to the citizen suspect H5N1. “They not suspect bird flu, because they were not sick when being taken his blood.” That could be suspected suspect bird flu if they were sick, he said. According to him, the example of blood of all the citizen who was sent to the laboratory of Dinkes South Sulawesi was still being checked. Dinkes Bone did not yet accept the report produced by the laboratory This poultry illness could spread in several villages in the Bone Regency, like in the Tonra Subdistrict, Kajuara, and Two Boccoe.
pugmom – at 00:20, I was getting ready to post that article when yet another friend called with yet another emergency. Sigh. I’ve located Tanete — it’s in South Sulawesi, on the east coast, about 70 km southeast of Maros. I haven’t been able to pinpoint Two (or Dua) Boccoe yet. The only one I’ve found so far is in East Kalimantan, and I can’t imagine why the Bone Regency would be dealing with it, so there’s got to be another one — I’ll keep looking.
I know Dude posted the password to the spreadsheet, but I seem to have put it in a very safe place. Could someone tell me again, please, if I promise not to lose it again?
Btw, do the forum pages look huge to everyone, or is it just me?
Never mind, it was just me; somehow my text size got changed to ‘larger’.
dbg the password is wiki123
dbg—glad you are tracking down the geography. And 70 km from Maros, hmmmm. Password is wiki123. Going to bed—keep up the good work.
Thanks, Dude and pugmom, I was able to see the spreadsheet - amazing how well it works when you do it correctly…
Michelle—are these 2 children included in the summary? http://tinyurl.com/kugxp
Two Kendari children Suspect Flu Burung on Thursday, August 24 2006, 02:25:55 WIB
The threat spread him the bird flu virus in the Kendari City evidently increasingly serious.
Two children were 5 years and 14 months old, has the initials Df and And currently was treated intensive in RSUD Sulawei North (South-East Sulawesi) because of suffering the sign was sick that was similar to the medical characteristics of the bird flu sufferer….
Therefore, their family the fear and panic everything of Df and And suddenly had a temperature high, was accompanied breathless or the throat complaint. Moreover, around a week in the environment of the two families, several of his main poultries, the chicken died suddenly. “We did not want reckless.” Both of them, must get the maintenance intensively. Therefore, his name the patient with suspect flu burung,” firm RSUD South-East Sulawesi Director, Zamrud yesterday in his office. He named ‘’‘Df, entered to RSUD last Tuesday (22/8). Whereas An the previous day’‘’. While undergoing the maintenance of the prevention, was given Tamiflu medicine. Plus, the sample of the patient has been sent personally to the centre of the Body of Health Research And Development (Balitbangkes) to know, produced by finally. Next week, results could have been known….
So how many people actually tested positve in Aug.? Officially. How many are we pretty sure had it, but are not confirmed? You guys are all doing a great job, I can’t seem to keep track of all of the people. Does anyone know if there seems to be more or less cases than in July?
Michelle and all the other Indonesian flu sleuths,
(Michelle… Thanks for your spreadsheet). I have also made a spreadsheet based on the information you guys have teased out of the news. The appearance is much different than Michelle’s. It is a more graphic method for viewing. (The data on it is mostly the same. But where I found different information I marked with pink triangles) It also has separate pages for locations. I don’t want to infringe on your work, but do you think it would be appropriate that I could also ask that it be posted? It would help with those who “see” by graphic representations.
I am also working on a Genogram to show relationships…. This should be done by tonight.
Cure for Umar Aup
Garut (Antara News) - Racikan medicine tradisonal made by Aup (53) that was believed in succeeded in curing his child, Umar (16), from the bird flu illness (Avian influenza/AI) very urgent to immediately be tested scientifically, said Public Hospital public relations Dr. Slamet in Garut, the Yogi Prayogi.Authentication scientifically this really was needed, because beforehand Umar that was stated positive tertular the AI virus could get the maintenance and medical treatment medically,” he said in RSU Dr. Slamet, Garut, West Java, on Sunday.
In fact, the Yogi suggested, authentication empirically absolute was needed before the process of this alternative medical treatment was marketed to be traded to the public. Separately, Aup, the citizen Rancasalak Cikelet, approximately 130 km the South direction the Garut City, to the reporter stressed that is experienced for 25 years in the field of alternative medical treatment, so as brave brought came home had Umar from isolation space of RSU Dr. Slamet — although being banned by the hospital side and the doctor — to be cured by him personally.
He said, the raw material racikan his medicine, ‘’‘including the root, the leaves, wood, cobra bile, as well as kadut the porcupine, that was mixt and pounded through to soft, afterwards was put in the sun to dry until dry and disangrai (was fried without oil) to be made coloured medicine dust yellow. Aup also claimed has swallowed racikan this medicine four times a day and was estimated after four days could recover from the bird flu illness.’‘’ The man claimed, cut medicine since the 1970 ‘s, and at this time the price racikan him the behaviour was sold with a value of Rp20.000 to cure the citizen’s illness of the surrounding village. “His medicine safe was drunk, because of not having the side-effect, and not containing chemistry,” he said.
Okieman—thanx for list of papers—GREAT---you know which city goes with which newspaper.
Okieman - ditto pugmom on the newspaper site. I found a website for Medan, in English, and the articles are clearly dated. It doesn’t get much better than that!!!
‘’‘Update - Sumatra” Looks like Rasmita Boru Lingga (35F) is/has been released. I’m confused on the lower section of the article that I highlighted…..Kondisi?, and also…..Keluarga?
On Sunday, on September 03 2006 Medan (SIB) the sufferer’s Patient suspect bird flu was permitted to come home by the side of RSUP H Adam the Owner because of his condition. Stated improved and the negative contracted this illness. The assurance of returning of R Br L (34) the inhabitants Saribudolok Kec Silimakuta Kab Simalungun were sent directly by Wadir 1 Field and Education of the Medic’s Service RSUP human rights Dr H Nur Rasyid Lubis SpB FICS to SIB, on Saturday (2/9). “Kondisi him has improved, his fever already was not again and we again the co-ordination with Jakarta to pemulangannya” he said. Nur Rasyid said, his side uptil now knew results of the sample inspection of the patient R Br L that he him was stated the negative was affected by bird flu and currently RSUP human rights only were waiting for the facsimile from Jakarta results of this inspection. “’‘’Keluarga him indeed ask for came home and when this afternoon (on Saturday. Red) came faksimil from Jakarta the possibility R Br L will be returned’‘’. However, before being returned by the doctor will check his health before to more decisive kondisinya,” he said again. Medicine tamiflu that already this Sunday was given to the patient R Br L, Nur Rasyid words, currently are stopped and produced by Curretese (sucked) that was carried out by good results. ”Bila already did not have the problem was returned by us the patient tersebut,” he said again.
FloridaGirl – at 09:40
I think the more ways to look at data and information the better. You might pose your question on the “Ask the Mod” thread about the best way to get the spreadsheet to them and how it should be posted (ftp site, wiki or forum).
Thanks Okieman, (Thanks to all who are working so hard, I could not have put this together without your work)!
I will email them to a moderator to post.
Hi everyone, I volunteered to watch Jakarta last week. I haven’t done anything of importance yet and have felt terribly guilty. I was asked to start teaching an 8th grade class in addition to my 7th grade classes and this starts Tuesday. That’s what I’ve been focusing on. I have to bow out of this for now and hope that you will forgive me. I feel awful about this as I thought my time was freeing up.
We totally understand Orlandpreppie—don’t feel guilty about it, you sound terribly busy and some of us have alot more free time. Hopefully, later, you can come back on and help. Continue to post, esp if you just happen to come across something interesting. We don’t know how much longer we can all hold out either, as the amount of people is becoming overwhelming. Good luck with your new venture.
Michelle in OK – at 18:03 “I didn’t really mean to capture that much information when it started, but that is the only way I could keep people’s names straight.”
Michelle, you have absolutely captured the essence of what a great job you guys are doing. Anyone who has tried to follow the outbreaks this past few weeks would arrive at exactly that spot, and most of us just gave up simply because there are not enough hours in a day.
I just wanted to say how much I really really appreciate all the efforts that all of you have put in, that we can just check in once in a while and have an idea of what is going on. I can’t speak for others but you have NO IDEA how you’ve made my life a lot saner! So a big thank you, and if you need help of any kind, just shout. No, just SHOUT! OK?
:-)
Commonground – at 13:44, you may have already found this, but the Indonesian word for search is “cari,” and sometimes it’ll be “Pencarian.” “Cari Berita” is “Search the News.”
Commonground at 13:51
I can’t get ftp://www.singtomeohmuse.com/ to work so I can’t see the current update so this may be a repost. Keep getting ‘page cannot be displayed’.
On September 01 2006 [the News archives] ”Suspect” Bird Flu entered Isolation Space of A patient suspect bird flu again entered RSU Dr. Slamet Garut, on Thursday (31/8). ‘’‘This time had a name Syahril fortune (8), the citizen of the Village Cikelet the Cikelet Kec Village ikelet, Garut. He entered the most big and most complete hospital in Kab. This Garut approximately struck 13.20 WIB with the condition was not too serious.’‘’ The “Syahril condition in fact not critical.” But because that was relevant experienced similar signs suspect bird flu, we memasukan him to isolation space. Moreover he came from the Cikelet area, said Dr. Johnson Manurung from RSU Dr. Slamet Garut. Syahril came to RSU Dr. Slamet was brought by the ambulance from Cikelet, approximately struck 13.20 WIB. Like that arrived in RSU Dr. Slamet, he was immediately placed in RSU isolation space Dr. Slamet Garut to receive the maintenance. Reconciliation from the Cikelet Community Health Centre, he was suspected suspect bird flu.
and:
In the meantime, the patient suspect bird flu that beforehand entered RSU Dr. Slamet, namely Ridwan’s smoke (17), Maman (39), as well as Direct (60), has been stated healthy. Therefore, that was relevant was returned to his house was their respective, on Thursday (31/8), approximately struck 13.30 WIB.
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